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cmxc
Joined: 19 May 2008
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 Posted: Thu Oct 09, 2014 5:45 pm Post subject: Foreigners negatively view jobs in Korea |
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| Korea is a less attractive workplace for foreigners than Japan and China, according to a Boston Consulting Group study released Monday. |
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But not many of the surveyed job seekers wanted to come to Korea, which came in 16th, after Mexico and Saudi Arabia at 14th and 15th place, respectively. Only Turkey, India and Indonesia ranked lower.
And Korea fell far behind its East Asian neighbors, with Japan coming in eighth and China at 12th. |
As a former employee of Samsung Electronics and having spoken with countless expats working for various Korean corporations, I hear the same complaints again and again.
Korean corporate culture just sucks for Western educated/experienced people.
I do not expect any reasonable changes any time soon.
Foreigners negatively view jobs in Korea
http://koreajoongangdaily.joins.com/news/article/article.aspx?aid=2995881 |
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optik404
Joined: 24 Jun 2008
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| Posted: Thu Oct 09, 2014 5:50 pm Post subject: |
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| That sucks, if there was only a way to not work for a Korean company. How would one go about doing this, hmm. |
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thrylos
Joined: 10 Jun 2008
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| Posted: Thu Oct 09, 2014 6:26 pm Post subject: |
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| optik404 wrote: |
| That sucks, if there was only a way to not work for a Korean company. How would one go about doing this, hmm. |
Anyone here work for an inter/multinational company (non-Korean) in Korea? Is it any better/different than working as a foreigner in a Korean company?
I would imagine it might be marginally better working for, say, Phillips than Samsung.
The article only talks about foreigners in Korean companies in Korea, not foreigners working for foreign companies in Korea. |
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northway
Joined: 05 Jul 2010
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| Posted: Thu Oct 09, 2014 7:32 pm Post subject: |
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| I work for a Korean company in the States and I'm frustrated to the point that I'm willing to take a pay cut and a step down the ladder to work somewhere that functions borderline rationally. |
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KimchiNinja
Joined: 01 May 2012
Location: Gangnam
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| Posted: Thu Oct 09, 2014 7:47 pm Post subject: |
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| thrylos wrote: |
| optik404 wrote: |
| That sucks, if there was only a way to not work for a Korean company. How would one go about doing this, hmm. |
Anyone here work for an inter/multinational company (non-Korean) in Korea? Is it any better/different than working as a foreigner in a Korean company? |
Here, it's way better.
The native Koreans at the company all thought so. Many of them has already worked at Samsung. They said that although you might get paid well at SS, they work you to death, plus company dinners, plus answer the mobile at 1AM. The multinational companies tend to have a more reasonable atmosphere, especially if a Korean is not managing local operations.
Problem is there are not many of these jobs available here, and the Koreans who manage to snag them don't leave voluntarily. |
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atwood
Joined: 26 Dec 2009
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| Posted: Thu Oct 09, 2014 7:54 pm Post subject: |
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| thrylos wrote: |
| optik404 wrote: |
| That sucks, if there was only a way to not work for a Korean company. How would one go about doing this, hmm. |
Anyone here work for an inter/multinational company (non-Korean) in Korea? Is it any better/different than working as a foreigner in a Korean company?
I would imagine it might be marginally better working for, say, Phillips than Samsung.
The article only talks about foreigners in Korean companies in Korea, not foreigners working for foreign companies in Korea. |
Many a former female students stated they wanted to work for an international company because the conditions were better for women there than at a Korean company.
It's also supposed to be better for women to work at a newer Korean company, such as one of the credit card companies.
A Indian engineering professor of my acquaintance said that all the Indian engineers he knew who had taken jobs with Korean companies in Korea had expressed dissatisfaction, with most quitting before the end of their contracts. He said one went back after just three weeks.
Just sayin'. |
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FriendlyDaegu
Joined: 26 Aug 2012
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| Posted: Thu Oct 09, 2014 8:05 pm Post subject: Re: Foreigners negatively view jobs in Korea |
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| cmxc wrote: |
As a former employee of Samsung Electronics and having spoken with countless expats working for various Korean corporations, I hear the same complaints again and again.
Korean corporate culture just sucks for Western educated/experienced people.
I do not expect any reasonable changes any time soon.
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It may not be fair to contribute the results of that study to how 'bad' Korean work culture is. I heard the same kinds of complaints in Japan over mandatory exercise before work and after lunch, endless paperwork, group office cleanup time and things like that. I'm sure China also has its peculiarities. And I don't think people generally know about these things before joining.
I'd presume people say they want to go to certain countries to work for mostly the same reasons they'd go there for vacation and leave it at that. Korea's just not all that enticing on the whole. |
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FDNY
Joined: 27 Sep 2010
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| Posted: Thu Oct 09, 2014 9:56 pm Post subject: |
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I have worked at a factory for the last 15 years. I sometimes get resistance from management at the same level as me. When I write up the incident and explain why this is a bad business practice and will result in our company being less competitive, the management senior to me are usually quick to understand.
It all boils down to money. Bring in the orders. Get repeat customers. Koreans aren't stupid. They understand this.
My biggest complaint about Korea would be the almost complete lack of a cosmopolitan feel. This is still a boring monoculture that lacks an international flavour. No Fortune 500 executive will want to spend his weekend going to Everland and eating ramyon. |
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KimchiNinja
Joined: 01 May 2012
Location: Gangnam
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| Posted: Thu Oct 09, 2014 10:19 pm Post subject: |
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| This is still a boring monoculture that lacks an international flavour. No Fortune 500 executive will want to spend his weekend going to Everland and eating ramyon. |
Agree that is a major drawback for this region. Although I think Korean BBQ and pricey whiskey would be a more normal choice for this demographic when eating Korean food, not ramyon. |
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Chaparrastique
Joined: 01 Jan 2014
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| Posted: Thu Oct 09, 2014 11:09 pm Post subject: |
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| When I write up the incident and explain why this is a bad business practice and will result in our company being less competitive, the management senior to me are usually quick to understand. |
You able to give advice/ opinion/ feedback to your superiors? Amazing.
Usually they regard it as a challenge to their authority. Information only flows downhill in Korea.
Which is why leaders here often grow far out of touch with reality on the ground and make silly decisions. Everyone is too afraid to contradict them, and in any case they only got the job because they're male. Everything is done on politics here rather than merit. |
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KimchiNinja
Joined: 01 May 2012
Location: Gangnam
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| Posted: Thu Oct 09, 2014 11:17 pm Post subject: |
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Information only flows downhill in Korea.
Which is why leaders here often grow far out of touch with reality on the ground and make silly decisions. Everyone is too afraid to contradict them, and in any case they only got the job because they're male. Everything is done on politics here rather than merit. |
Things are working just fine here. Nobody wants to listen to a bunch of mouthy newbs and their opinions. |
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Cave Dweller
Joined: 17 Aug 2014
Location: Seoul
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| Posted: Fri Oct 10, 2014 12:43 am Post subject: |
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Oh yeah, things are peachy.
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| Chaparrastique wrote: |
Information only flows downhill in Korea.
Which is why leaders here often grow far out of touch with reality on the ground and make silly decisions. Everyone is too afraid to contradict them, and in any case they only got the job because they're male. Everything is done on politics here rather than merit. |
Things are working just fine here. Nobody wants to listen to a bunch of mouthy newbs and their opinions. |
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atwood
Joined: 26 Dec 2009
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| Posted: Fri Oct 10, 2014 12:46 am Post subject: |
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| KimchiNinja wrote: |
| Chaparrastique wrote: |
Information only flows downhill in Korea.
Which is why leaders here often grow far out of touch with reality on the ground and make silly decisions. Everyone is too afraid to contradict them, and in any case they only got the job because they're male. Everything is done on politics here rather than merit. |
Things are working just fine here. Nobody wants to listen to a bunch of mouthy newbs and their opinions. |
More than fine if you're into suicides and traffic deaths.
As for the listening part, don't let the door hit you on your way out.  |
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basic69isokay
Joined: 28 Sep 2014
Location: korea
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| Posted: Fri Oct 10, 2014 2:33 am Post subject: |
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Anyone watch the league on fx???
Ruckson recently got shipped to Korea as a punishment.
He came back with the kimchi shits and baby wipes hahahaa
Really funny and accurate of how corporate workers view Korea. It's a hardship posting fo sure |
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KimchiNinja
Joined: 01 May 2012
Location: Gangnam
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| Posted: Sat Oct 11, 2014 4:51 pm Post subject: |
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| atwood wrote: |
| KimchiNinja wrote: |
| Chaparrastique wrote: |
Information only flows downhill in Korea.
Which is why leaders here often grow far out of touch with reality on the ground and make silly decisions. Everyone is too afraid to contradict them, and in any case they only got the job because they're male. Everything is done on politics here rather than merit. |
Things are working just fine here. Nobody wants to listen to a bunch of mouthy newbs and their opinions. |
More than fine if you're into suicides and traffic deaths. |
Oh look it's Atwood bringing up unrelated nonsense again. Shocking.
Things work just dandy here, nobody needs your opinion foreigners. Just go home and fix your own messed up society. |
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