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makelliott
Joined: 05 Jan 2015
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Posted: Tue Jan 20, 2015 6:34 am Post subject: Canceling Visa |
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Hello,
My current Hagwon (CDI Dongdaemungu) has told me that they are threatening to cancel my visa if I don't comply with what they want. In order to obtain a letter of release, they essentially want me to buy it - via a training fee, a job interview fee and a flight fee (was told that the first two are illegal). Can anyone enlighten me if they do end up canceling my visa? |
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beentheredonethat777
Joined: 27 Jul 2013 Location: AsiaHaven
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Posted: Tue Jan 20, 2015 7:32 am Post subject: Re: Canceling Visa |
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| makelliott wrote: |
Hello,
My current Hagwon (CDI Dongdaemungu) has told me that they are threatening to cancel my visa if I don't comply with what they want. In order to obtain a letter of release, they essentially want me to buy it - via a training fee, a job interview fee and a flight fee (was told that the first two are illegal). Can anyone enlighten me if they do end up canceling my visa? |
Hi, I think there is information missing in your post. So, to clarify things, could you please answer the following questions. This will help others in responding.
How long have you worked at the school?
Did they hire you.fly you here,train you and now you want to quit before your contract is finished to work for another school?
If so, yes, I would cancel your visa too and NOT give you a letter of release. Can you just imagine what would happen if everyone suddenly decided they wanted to change jobs mid-contract? Chaos.
Oh wait, you wanted me to advise you. YES, they can cancel your visa.
When/if they do, you'll have be out of the country within 14 days!
Sorry I couldn't be of more help. |
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makelliott
Joined: 05 Jan 2015
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Posted: Tue Jan 20, 2015 7:40 am Post subject: |
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Goodness...there is no need to get hostile over a simple post. Yes, they did fly me here and I have agreed to pay for the airfare and wait until the end of the term so that they can find another teacher (I gave my notice in December and said I would wait until the Lunar New Year in February, which is the end of the term).
My question was in regards to what possible outcomes could occur if the cancelation happens because I don't want to agree to pay their illegal fees ("training" fee and "job interview" fee) in order to obtain the letter of release. |
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tob55
Joined: 29 Apr 2007
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Posted: Tue Jan 20, 2015 1:37 pm Post subject: |
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| makelliott wrote: |
Goodness...there is no need to get hostile over a simple post. Yes, they did fly me here and I have agreed to pay for the airfare and wait until the end of the term so that they can find another teacher (I gave my notice in December and said I would wait until the Lunar New Year in February, which is the end of the term).
My question was in regards to what possible outcomes could occur if the cancellation happens because I don't want to agree to pay their illegal fees ("training" fee and "job interview" fee) in order to obtain the letter of release. |
CDI is the "owner" of your visa, so they can cancel it anytime they want for all practical purposes. Sure the things they are taking from you are probably not in the contract, but they will use whatever means to get what they feel you owe them. Many people are lured in by the fancy talk of some places, and I am not suggesting you were, but there were probably warning signs all along you simply ignored for whatever reason. When they cancel your visa, you have 10 days to leave the country or else you are in violation of immigration law. If you want to try and secure another job, then you will have to leave the country and come back on a tourist visa, that is if you are planning on staying and working another job. You might already have another job lined up, but the visa thing is going to hold you up. Then do your visa run after they cancel your current visa.
I want you to know this though, regardless of your complaint towards them, they will get their money. You might have been better off waiting until payday and simply pulling a runner than to fight over the money they are going to take from you anyway. Many people in your same position have had lots of money taken in unscrupulous ways by the likes of companies like CDI, and when push comes to shove it is your word against theirs and the boss is Korean, you live and work in Korea, the contract language that really matters is in Korean, etc. I think you get the picture. Hopefully you have enough money saved up to do what you plan, but if not, then you are probably not going to win this fight. Good luck.  |
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beentheredonethat777
Joined: 27 Jul 2013 Location: AsiaHaven
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Posted: Tue Jan 20, 2015 5:36 pm Post subject: |
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Posted: Tue Jan 20, 2015 7:40 am Post subject: Reply with quote Report Post
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Goodness...there is no need to get hostile over a simple post. Yes, they did fly me here and I have agreed to pay for the airfare and wait until the end of the term so that they can find another teacher (I gave my notice in December and said I would wait until the Lunar New Year in February, which is the end of the term).
My question was in regards to what possible outcomes could occur if the cancelation happens because I don't want to agree to pay their illegal fees ("training" fee and "job interview" fee) in order to obtain the letter of release.
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It is clear that this is your first experience in Korea. No one was getting hostile over a simple post. You gave a notice to a school that is known to be shady and unsavory in their dealings with individuals ,months in advance, that you planned to break the contract that you signed. agreeing to work there for one year.
The result, I'm pretty sure of this, will be no release letter, a last paycheck that will include so many deductions (legal or not) that you will have wished you had just left in the middle of the night. As tob55 mentioned, if you are planning to work in Korea again, more than likely, you will have to leave the country and return on a tourist visa with a new set of documents
and then make another visa run to Japan to get a new E-2 visa.(before starting a new job)
Yes, you gave "notice." The notice , in this country, USUALLY means you gave your boss enough time to bend you over, without Vaseline.
Oh wait, let me answer the questions. NO, it is not LEGAL to take money from your pay. But YES, it will happen and you" MAY "not get the release letter you thought you were paying for. Can you sue them? Sure. Will it be expensive? Of course. Will you get your money, back. 99.95 % not!
Having said all of this, based upon years and years of experience in Korea, anything could happen at any given moment, and CDI may suddenly have a change of heart, and make a rare exception for you. Let us know if/when this happens. #anything is possible#
Hopefully, you have saved enough money to accommodate these necessities.
#nothostilejusttryingtohelp# |
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