Korean Job Discussion Forums

marktoronto · Joined: 02 Jun 2003 Location: Seoul

I have a friend (good looking, tall, blonde girl) who has expressed interest in going to Seoul and working at an upscale Hostess Bar (ones that you would find at a nice hotel, I guess?). I've looked on the internet and most of the information I'm getting on hostess bars are in Japan. Does anyone know about these in Seoul? How much can the girls make? I've read that there are a few seedy ones on "Hooker Hill", but are there any at nice hotels or restaurants? She told me that all she has to do is entertain men, but I'm somehow doubtful that it's just that.

Tiger Beer · Joined: 07 Feb 2003

Here is yet more information on another one in Japan if you are a guy..

http://www.eslcafe.com/forums/korea/viewtopic.php?t=8758&highlight=hostess+bars

I don't think they are that common in Seoul, I've never heard of anyone doing it, or heard of anyone who know someone who was doing that.

If it does happen, I'm thinking its probably moreso Russian women (if they are white), and its more prostitution-oriented then just general entertaining. But I could be entirely wrong about that.

TECO · Joined: 20 Jan 2003

http://www.edenclub-bkk.com/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=forum&f=2

Here's a link to think about when you bring up clubs like that.

Seoultrader · Joined: 18 Jun 2003 Location: Ali's Insurgent Inn, Fallujah

As the board's self-appointed connosoir of fine male entertainment, here's the 411 (Tiger Beer also has a good grasp of the sit.):

Tell her to forget it, unless she's willing to put her ass up for sale on a freelance basis to loaded Koreans, for example, some of my business associates who are into exotic ass (and sick of the Russkies). If she's "hot-hot" (like, Catherine Zeta Jones or Babewatch hot), I'm pretty sure that they'd fork out up to 1 million won/night. You get the point. It wouldn't be hard for her to establish a client base IF design & performance is satisfactory.

As far as establishments such as room salons, she can forget it. No one will hire her as long as there is a steady supply of hot Korean 19-21 year-old credit defaulters ready to give it up for a measly 300,000. It's also too much of an operational risk to take. Korean gals working in room salons are easily controlled. A piece of white ass, as unique and appealing as it might be in such a place, is not worth the effort and legal risk for operators (especially seeing as that they already have to be very careful walking that legality/corruption tightrope).

Although many Russian/Uzbek gals still work in Korean nightclubs as dancers, they generally are expected to perform other services as well. this is really the only organized whitey prostitution here. The Korean govt. has stopped issuing new "Entertainer visas" for such establishments, and the exodus to greener pastures (Dubai, Riyadh, etc.) has begun. The 150-200 or so stinky Itaewon Russkies that you see pissdrunk at 9 a.m. stumbling out of Rio or Club International are no accurate measure of the business, as many of them cater to "lower" fiscally-challenged demographics such as GIs, teachers, etc. etc. Some of them just go there to have fun, of course.

Summary: if she's willing to peddle her ass, she's good to go here. If not, I strongly advise Japan, where she could get away with just "hosting" and still make a good bundle -BUT- there's always the risk of getting stuck with a club with direct Yakuza ties (which they all have, though the degree of connection varies widely) in which case it could turn ugly.

The above info/opinion is based on years of experience as both a customer as well as a former 'operator' of sorts in the business and pretty much the uncensored truth.

Flame away, lovely maidens of the board. I know you're just itching to now... Laughing

(*Seoultrader moons ya*)

jaderedux · Joined: 10 Jan 2003 Location: Lurking outside Seoul

why would the women flame you? Hey, you spoke about your experiences and honestly. The guy asked a loaded question. I thought your answer was blunt, if true, informative.

As a feminist what a woman chooses to do with her life and body is up to her. Whether it be a stay at home mom or a stripper. That's what it is all about. Each path has a consequence...some paths have more dangerous consquences.

Personally selling your body or trading on your looks seems sad but who the hell am I to judge any of these women.

So no flames here......you may have given the original poster a reality check. Too many people read memiors of a geisha and think the world is really still like that.

Jade

mokpochica · Joined: 21 Jan 2003 Location: Ann Arbor, MI

Seoultrader · Joined: 18 Jun 2003 Location: Ali's Insurgent Inn, Fallujah

The Great Wall of Whiner · Joined: 24 Jan 2003 Location: Middle Land

Seoultrader wrote:

Seoultrader · Joined: 18 Jun 2003 Location: Ali's Insurgent Inn, Fallujah

rapier · Joined: 16 Feb 2003

Uhh, slowtreader, for all your grandiose language, polished and polite presentation, to me you are little more than a suited whoremonger who exploits the sexuality of the more vulnerable sections of society, because you can.
How about foregoing your self indulgent excursions every so often and donating the cash you would have spent to a charity protecting disadvantaged Asian women, for example. I think you'd feel better about yourself.

Seoultrader · Joined: 18 Jun 2003 Location: Ali's Insurgent Inn, Fallujah

inexhile · Joined: 18 Feb 2003

interesting pie throwing competition in the works here......... I have a pertinent question for both of you Seoul trader and Rapier
Do you differciate between 1st world and 3rd world sex workers and where does Korea fit in?

rapier · Joined: 16 Feb 2003

Seoultrader: Like a typical punter, you prefer to remain ignorant to the reality of the cynical sex trade you are helping to fuel. Your hint that the hostess girls you "patronise" (both meanings of the word) are doing fine thank you on the easy, generous handouts of their customers. This makes you feel easier.
Let me provide some links for you, just so you know the backround of the business you're paying for. If you don't find these applicable to your situation, i will happilly provide more:

http://picis.jinbo.net/english/women/sextrade.htm

http://www.manilatimes.net/national/2002/jan/03/top_stories/20020103tops.html

(I hope these connect up)

Seoultrader · Joined: 18 Jun 2003 Location: Ali's Insurgent Inn, Fallujah

rapier · Joined: 16 Feb 2003

seoultrader: its a shame you obviously chose to ignore the first link I posted up.
Its a sad, sad world.......
Do you know, the amount of money you shell out for a night of selfish eroticism could probably enable just one of these girls, if they were from one of the poorer countries, to get good healthcare for herself and her family, and perhaps even set up her own, self-sustaining, legitimate business in her home country- (a fruit market stall perhaps).
But no. 90% of what you shell out goes to line the pockets of the rich, gangster - type exploitative bosses that run these joints..
Personally i prefer to spend a seductive night with a woman who is truly empowered, and in charge of her own life, but thats just me.
Ahh well, i can see i'm falling on deaf ears here....