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cam83



Joined: 27 Jan 2013
Location: Seoul, South Korea

PostPosted: Tue Dec 16, 2014 2:43 am    Post subject: Dear Korea... from a student Reply with quote

So I came across the video this morning and found it to be one of the more interesting portrayals of the education system in Korea - hopefully it goes viral and gets picked up by a few Korean blogs (who then adds subtitles for the masses).

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vn6TGopFcCI[url][/url]
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jvalmer



Joined: 06 Jun 2003

PostPosted: Tue Dec 16, 2014 5:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Offers no solutions. Also glosses over the biggest reason, Korean parents.

Some form of after-school study will exist in Korea as long as Korean parents keep the belief that their kid can be better than the kid next door.
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rainman3277



Joined: 13 Sep 2009

PostPosted: Tue Dec 16, 2014 4:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

jvalmer wrote:
Offers no solutions. Also glosses over the biggest reason, Korean parents.

Some form of after-school study will exist in Korea as long as Korean parents keep the belief that their kid can be better than the kid next door.


Yea! This 12yr old kid offers no solutions and glosses over the biggest reason. What's his problem???
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le-paul



Joined: 07 Apr 2009
Location: dans la chambre

PostPosted: Tue Dec 16, 2014 5:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hes a pretty astute kid as far as I can see - got the robot analogy down to a T Laughing
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Hokie21



Joined: 01 Mar 2011

PostPosted: Tue Dec 16, 2014 7:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's gone viral.
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Lucas



Joined: 11 Sep 2012

PostPosted: Tue Dec 16, 2014 7:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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So I came across the video this morning and found it to be one of the more interesting portrayals of the education system in Korea - hopefully it goes viral and gets picked up by a few Korean blogs (who then adds subtitles for the masses).

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vn6TGopFcCI[url][/url]


I bet he's too good to collect cardboard.


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jvalmer



Joined: 06 Jun 2003

PostPosted: Tue Dec 16, 2014 7:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

rainman3277 wrote:
jvalmer wrote:
Offers no solutions. Also glosses over the biggest reason, Korean parents.

Some form of after-school study will exist in Korea as long as Korean parents keep the belief that their kid can be better than the kid next door.


Yea! This 12yr old kid offers no solutions and glosses over the biggest reason. What's his problem???

Okay, good for a 12 year old. Kudos. But the issue isn't new.
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cam83



Joined: 27 Jan 2013
Location: Seoul, South Korea

PostPosted: Tue Dec 16, 2014 8:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Tbh, before this, I hadn't seen a video from a Korean middle school student on the subject in English (I find it refreshing that other young students from around the world can get an insight), but mostly only hear it from expats who like to see themselves as Korea 'experts'.

So whilst we all feel like we're aware of the issues with the Korean education system, I think it could help the process of giving the parents (future parents) a wake-up call as to how they are being perceived around the world.

I think it means a lot more coming from ppl who are actually going through the experience, rather than some random weigookin anyway.
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jvalmer



Joined: 06 Jun 2003

PostPosted: Tue Dec 16, 2014 8:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The first thing I though watching is, he's parents are probably pretty well-off. He probably spent a few years overseas in some English-speaking county. His parents are doing what they believe will better his chances of getting a professional job, and solidly being in that professional class. He is a tad bit spoiled, and is rebelling. Probably spends a lot of his time play LoL, and not really studying. Probably will end up going to a good university either in Korea, or overseas, because he spent some time in those horrendous hagwons.

What I find ironic, a lot of your poor students probably want to go to hagwons. The rich ones don't.
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candy bar



Joined: 03 Dec 2012

PostPosted: Tue Dec 16, 2014 8:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

He should study, so what?

He will live at home with his parents until he is 33 years old.

His mother will cook his meals, clean his room, do his laundry, and take care of all his other needs until he is 33 or older.

His parents will pay for everything he needs, including university and spending money.

His parents will put down a big deposit or outright pay for his first home.

He should study but he will be cuddled and pampered until he is well into adulthood, mid 30s.

This little dude is another Little Emperor.



At his age, when I was 12, I had a part-time job helping out at my uncle's business. In high school, I routinely worked 2 part-time jobs. During these times, I did chores around home, bought my own clothes and provided my own spending money as well as went to school and studied.

By the age of 18, I was out on my own and fully independent, cooking my own meals, doing my own laundry, etc,. I had the old car I had bought in high school. I lived in a small studio apartment on my own. I had a full-time job. I was taking 4 classes at university my first semester while holding down work and life. I completed university, a BA with a 3.86, in four years. Later, I punched in a few classes along and completed my MA. I worked my rear off.

Kids all over the world are starving or have little chance of getting an education. Yet, these Little Korean Emporers are complaining about having to study. Notice, he has time to pop up a video in his nice and tidy little bedroom.

GEEEEEZ! Lazy, spoiled, little fart.
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atwood



Joined: 26 Dec 2009

PostPosted: Wed Dec 17, 2014 12:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

candy bar wrote:
He should study, so what?

He will live at home with his parents until he is 33 years old.

His mother will cook his meals, clean his room, do his laundry, and take care of all his other needs until he is 33 or older.

His parents will pay for everything he needs, including university and spending money.

His parents will put down a big deposit or outright pay for his first home.

He should study but he will be cuddled and pampered until he is well into adulthood, mid 30s.

This little dude is another Little Emperor.



At his age, when I was 12, I had a part-time job helping out at my uncle's business. In high school, I routinely worked 2 part-time jobs. During these times, I did chores around home, bought my own clothes and provided my own spending money as well as went to school and studied.

By the age of 18, I was out on my own and fully independent, cooking my own meals, doing my own laundry, etc,. I had the old car I had bought in high school. I lived in a small studio apartment on my own. I had a full-time job. I was taking 4 classes at university my first semester while holding down work and life. I completed university, a BA with a 3.86, in four years. Later, I punched in a few classes along and completed my MA. I worked my rear off.

Kids all over the world are starving or have little chance of getting an education. Yet, these Little Korean Emporers are complaining about having to study. Notice, he has time to pop up a video in his nice and tidy little bedroom.

GEEEEEZ! Lazy, spoiled, little fart.

Preach it, brother!
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tanklor1



Joined: 13 Jun 2006

PostPosted: Wed Dec 17, 2014 12:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think a lot of you are missing the point. It's not about the hardships of growing up or taking on new responsibilities; it's about being forced into a system that is deeply flawed. Taking on a job and being financially independent at a young age is radically different than being forced to study for years on end.
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atwood



Joined: 26 Dec 2009

PostPosted: Wed Dec 17, 2014 12:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

tanklor1 wrote:
I think a lot of you are missing the point. It's not about the hardships of growing up or taking on new responsibilities; it's about being forced into a system that is deeply flawed. Taking on a job and being financially independent at a young age is radically different than being forced to study for years on end.

Being forced to sit on one's brains all day while your mother, teachers, and tutors cater to your every whim is certainly cruel and inhumane.
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3DR



Joined: 24 May 2009

PostPosted: Wed Dec 17, 2014 1:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

This thread is just more proof that atwood and his peanut gallery buddy candy bar are either too incompetent to get the point of the video, or are just arguing for the sake of being arguuing. Let's look at these threads where they obviously agree with the boy's points in the video:

http://forums.eslcafe.com/korea/viewtopic.php?t=234187&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=45

http://forums.eslcafe.com/korea/viewtopic.php?t=234546&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=0

Yet here in this thread, they would want us to believe that children shouldn't complain. I really feel sorry for posters like these. So bored, life so dull, or life is so off track, that they have nothing better to do than be antagonizing little clowns on an ESL message board. Sad.
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atwood



Joined: 26 Dec 2009

PostPosted: Wed Dec 17, 2014 2:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

3DR wrote:
This thread is just more proof that atwood and his peanut gallery buddy candy bar are either too incompetent to get the point of the video, or are just arguing for the sake of being arguuing. Let's look at these threads where they obviously agree with the boy's points in the video:

http://forums.eslcafe.com/korea/viewtopic.php?t=234187&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=45

http://forums.eslcafe.com/korea/viewtopic.php?t=234546&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=0

Yet here in this thread, they would want us to believe that children shouldn't complain. I really feel sorry for posters like these. So bored, life so dull, or life is so off track, that they have nothing better to do than be antagonizing little clowns on an ESL message board. Sad.

I see you've made a breakthrough in your therapy and have come to accept yourself for what you are, a little clown. I'm sorry that you find a small dose of reality antagonizing.

BTW, do you really think I would waste my time watching the video when I'm sure, sure, sure it's more of the same ol' same ol'?

Show me the callouses on his hands from stitching soccer balls or collecting garbage to earn his daily bread. When you can do that, get back to me.

The hypocrisy of Richie Rich Park complaining about the system that's going to keep him in high kimchi stinks like the Seoul subway at rush hour.
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