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3DR

Joined: 24 May 2009

Posted: Sun Mar 01, 2015 4:00 pm Post subject: United Airlines pilots need to have better safety

How much you wanna bet that if this was written about a Korean airline, we would be hearing "Oh those Koreans" and "Confucianism this and that?" Also, United is probably the worst airline I have flown on when coming back and leaving Korea. I did it twice and never again. http://edition.cnn.com/2015/02/26/politics/united-airlines-pilot-memo/

jvalmer

Joined: 06 Jun 2003

Posted: Sun Mar 01, 2015 6:02 pm Post subject: Re: United Airlines pilots need to have better safety

3DR wrote:

Also, United is probably the worst airline I have flown on when coming back and leaving Korea. I did it twice and never again.

Say that again. The first time I asked for some water, during a non-meal portion of the flight, the flight attendant scoffed at me, like I was wasting her time. Come on, it's your job.

geldedgoat

Joined: 05 Mar 2009

Posted: Sun Mar 01, 2015 7:19 pm Post subject: Re: United Airlines pilots need to have better safety

jvalmer wrote:

Say that again. The first time I asked for some water, during a non-meal portion of the flight, the flight attendant scoffed at me, like I was wasting her time. Come on, it's your job.

There's not a single American airline company, not even those specifically dedicated to exotic vacation destinations like Hawaiian Airlines, that is not a national embarrassment. Delta has perhaps been the least intolerable.

Titus

Joined: 19 May 2012

Posted: Sun Mar 01, 2015 7:39 pm Post subject: Re: United Airlines pilots need to have better safety

geldedgoat wrote:

jvalmer wrote:

Say that again. The first time I asked for some water, during a non-meal portion of the flight, the flight attendant scoffed at me, like I was wasting her time. Come on, it's your job.

I flew 2 times a week for about 40-45 weeks of the year for a bit over 4 years. I flew United whenever possible, though my airport isn't a hub for that airline. In the 4 years I've did that I had around 10 serious disruptions. LaGuardia accounts for around half. Weather and 1 mechanical issue for the rest. This doesn't include delays, which are common, but not all that long (and almost always weather related). I really do not understand the hate for American airlines or airports (less LaGuardia). Yes, the airlines are not as good as Singapore or Emirates but they're also not government owned symbols of national greatness. I flew from Atlanta to NYC this week, round trip, for 299$. That's incredibly cheap.

The TSA is awful but that isn't the airlines or airports fault.

geldedgoat

Joined: 05 Mar 2009

Posted: Sun Mar 01, 2015 7:55 pm Post subject: Re: United Airlines pilots need to have better safety

Titus wrote:

they're also not [...] symbols of national greatness.

This is a large part of the problem. Very few that service international clients in either the airplane or airport care the slightest about the damage they're doing the nation's reputation, much less the piss-poor service they're giving to their own fellow countrymen.

It's a real shame that Asiana and Korean Air have only been in the news for their embarrassing hiccups, because those two, along with ICN itself, have always been - and likely will continue to be - my most pleasant flying experiences by far. And the more I fly American-owned airlines, the more I'm reminded of the thieving slopheap that is the Philippines.

tophatcat

Joined: 09 Aug 2006
Location: under the hat

Posted: Sun Mar 01, 2015 10:40 pm Post subject: Re: United Airlines pilots need to have better safety

3DR wrote:

How much you wanna bet that if this was written about a Korean airline, we would be hearing "Oh those Koreans" and "Confucianism this and that?"

Also, United is probably the worst airline I have flown on when coming back and leaving Korea. I did it twice and never again.

http://edition.cnn.com/2015/02/26/politics/united-airlines-pilot-memo/

Take a minute to think about what you have down with your own post.

3DR

Joined: 24 May 2009

Posted: Sun Mar 01, 2015 10:48 pm Post subject: Re: United Airlines pilots need to have better safety

tophatcat wrote:

3DR wrote:

Take a minute to think about what you have down with your own post.

Break it down for me.

tophatcat

Joined: 09 Aug 2006
Location: under the hat

Posted: Sun Mar 01, 2015 10:57 pm Post subject:

Japan Airlines is my favorite. The Wright brothers were cool. NASA. Be happy you aren't riding an Ox.

3DR

Joined: 24 May 2009

Posted: Sun Mar 01, 2015 11:26 pm Post subject:

I'm not sure what you are trying to do but good for you.

tophatcat

Joined: 09 Aug 2006
Location: under the hat

Posted: Mon Mar 02, 2015 2:06 am Post subject: Re: United Airlines pilots need to have better safety

3DR wrote:

Your post *does* the very thing that it makes accusations about others *potentially* doing. It's a very xenophobic accusation. Wink

3DR

Joined: 24 May 2009

Posted: Mon Mar 02, 2015 2:20 am Post subject: Re: United Airlines pilots need to have better safety

tophatcat wrote:

3DR wrote:

Your post *does* the very thing that it makes accusations about others *potentially* doing. It's a very xenophobic accusation. Wink

Highly doubtful. I made a comment about one American airline that I hate. Other posters then brought in the American airlines suck comments. I love flying Delta Wink

tophatcat

Joined: 09 Aug 2006
Location: under the hat

Posted: Mon Mar 02, 2015 4:19 am Post subject: Re: United Airlines pilots need to have better safety

3DR wrote:

tophatcat wrote:

3DR wrote:

Your post *does* the very thing that it makes accusations about others *potentially* doing. It's a very xenophobic accusation. Wink

Highly doubtful. I made a comment about one American airline that I hate. Other posters then brought in the American airlines suck comments. I love flying Delta Wink

Now you are defending something that isn't your original post. You are jumping all over the place. What was your agenda in your original topic? I don't think it was to give Delta Airlines 5 stars.

3DR

Joined: 24 May 2009

Posted: Mon Mar 02, 2015 5:19 am Post subject: Re: United Airlines pilots need to have better safety

tophatcat wrote:

3DR wrote:

tophatcat wrote:

3DR wrote:

Your post *does* the very thing that it makes accusations about others *potentially* doing. It's a very xenophobic accusation. Wink

Highly doubtful. I made a comment about one American airline that I hate. Other posters then brought in the American airlines suck comments. I love flying Delta Wink

Now you are defending something that isn't your original post. You are jumping all over the place. What was your agenda in your original topic? I don't think it was to give Delta Airlines 5 stars.

FriendlyDaegu

Joined: 26 Aug 2012

Posted: Mon Mar 02, 2015 11:27 pm Post subject: Re: United Airlines pilots need to have better safety

3DR wrote:

Haven't enjoyed a flight on a US carrier since I was young. That said, this is about safety and is an example of the airline doing the right thing.

candy bar

Joined: 03 Dec 2012

Posted: Tue Mar 03, 2015 2:04 am Post subject: Re: United Airlines pilots need to have better safety

3DR wrote:

This is a different type of story. It's a story of problem prevention. This is a story about a people recognizing a fault an making efforts to correct it. It's a story about responsibility. It's a story about forethought, safety, accountability, and responsibility before the accident occurs.

Don't word. This type of story won't be popping up as an "Oh those Koreans" and Confucianism is this and that" post.

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