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mashimarofan
Joined: 05 Aug 2014
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Posted: Thu Apr 16, 2015 8:51 am Post subject: Sticky Situation --Letter of Release / Quitting Early |
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I keep getting mixed everything to the point of no return. I'm told by close friends that I can call the Labour Board and get out of my contract and they will pressure my boss into giving me a letter of release.
Background: Got here back in October, and from day 1 it was verbal abuse followed by being ostracized. Remember getting offer details in which it stated that those on hourly salary "Instructors on the hourly salary package are responsible for the full cost of the medical insurance premium. Hourly instructors are eligible from three months after the the start date on the contract". This is where it gets interesting, after 3 months was up, I asked my recruiter about insurance, and she asked the Headquarters, and they called my boss. Mind you every time I asked my boss for help on something she would blow up on me, insult me, and overall just be super abusive. She cornered me and told me that because I was part time I had to sign up on my own. From what I hear part time is when you are working 15 hours or less per week, and E2 visas cannot be sponsored on that. Also, I'm told that you also have to pay pension, but the only thing that is being taken out of my pay check is rent and the 3.3% tax rate. On top of that I think I've been declared an IC, even though my contract states I am an employee, and there is no way I could be one under an E2, especially since I work under their directions on how to work, when to work, and where.
I talked to a labor lawyer about it, and he looked over my contract and says its clean and there's no case.
Yet, others say there is a case. I'm confused, because I was told I can go to the Labour Board and get my Letter of Release. And she has threatened numerous times that I should get another job, I've broken the contract, and I should quit. This woman really does not like me. Did I mention I work for Chungdahm Learning? I am 7 months into my contract, and will be done another 7 months from now, I really don't think I can last. HR knows about her since I started working there, and nothing has been done. I'm officially burned out when it comes to her, and other than throwing myself in front of a bus, I can't think of anything else to do.
My questions are these:
If I can't go to the Labour Board, what do I do to get my LoR?
If I can't get an LoR, is there anyway I can work at a new job without it?
Be nice, ask her to sign a letter of release and go on my merry way?
Resign, do the 65 days of hell in order to quit, and then hope someone will hire me?
If the Labour Board can help me, how do I go about to talking to them and the like?
Also, could I get a D10 visa without an LoR? If so, how?
On top of that, thinking that I would get the LoR as friends have stated, I went on job interviews, and passed one to the point where they do want me by next week. (yeah, I'm all about fucking myself over it seems, yay! *throws confetti*). |
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Kepler
Joined: 24 Sep 2007
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Posted: Thu Apr 16, 2015 4:03 pm Post subject: |
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Teachers at CDI are independent contractors so they don't get health insurance. CDI was involved in a court battle with its teachers about this issue. The teachers won but the case was appealed to a higher court.
"Chungdahm argues that the teachers were independent contractors, as described in the contract, but previous rulings have found that this situation does not comply with labor law, as Chungdahm controlled the rules, place and hours of employment, and in some cases sponsored teachers’ employment visas."
http://www.koreaherald.com/view.php?ud=20150113000740
If you can't get a letter of release then you could leave Korea, turn in your ARC at the airport to cancel your visa, and get a new visa with new documents. |
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ttompatz

Joined: 05 Sep 2005 Location: Kwangju, South Korea
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Posted: Thu Apr 16, 2015 4:31 pm Post subject: Re: Sticky Situation --Letter of Release / Quitting Early |
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mashimarofan wrote: |
My questions are these:
1) If I can't go to the Labour Board, what do I do to get my LoR?
2) If I can't get an LoR, is there anyway I can work at a new job without it?
3) Be nice, ask her to sign a letter of release and go on my merry way?
4) Resign, do the 65 days of hell in order to quit, and then hope someone will hire me?
5) If the Labour Board can help me, how do I go about to talking to them and the like?
6) Also, could I get a D10 visa without an LoR? If so, how? |
Numbers added for clarity.
1) You can't. The employer is under NO legal obligation to give you one.
2) Short answer is "NO".
3) This might work but usually not - see #1.
4) This might work but often not - see #1. Additionally you leave yourself open to getting screwed out of 30-40 days pay.
5) From your descriptions there is no breach of labor law. They are unlikely to do anything. The list of local labor offices can be found on their website: http://www.moel.go.kr/english/contac/contacRegional.jsp .
6) No.
7) if you really so out of sorts at your current job then start looking at China, Japan, Taiwan or Thailand. After your ARC has expired you can return to Korea to try again.
you MIGHT get lucky and by doing an exit/return and reapplying with new documents be able to obtain new employment and a new E2 before your current ARC expiry date (as mentioned above). Failing that, see #7.
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mashimarofan
Joined: 05 Aug 2014
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Posted: Thu Apr 16, 2015 8:32 pm Post subject: |
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Thank you.
There are some issues, because in my contract it does not say I am an IC, it says "employee", and also when I called Naitonal Pension Office and they checked my standing, it says "self-employed" which had her confused because I am not self-employed.
You are correct on them telling me how to do everything and anything. |
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pmwhittier
Joined: 03 Nov 2011 Location: Korea
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Posted: Thu Apr 16, 2015 9:09 pm Post subject: |
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At my previous employer, my contract said employee and yet NHIC had me listed at self employed. What I found out through first-hand shenanigans is that:
NHIC doesn't care if your contract says employee or not.
Pension office doesn't care if you're an employee or not.
Labor Board doesn't care if you're an employee or not.
When I started having troubles, I found out the hard way that the Labor Board (and many other government agencies) are only interested in clearly broken laws. Being treated badly, non-payment of insurance and pension, and hell-on-earth conditions are of NO CONCERN to the Labor Board. In fact, the Labor Board was nice enough to coach my employer on ways he could make my employment even more difficult all within the confines of the law.
Korean agencies will always help Korean employers first and foremost. Now that I know that, I sleep much better at night. |
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Troglodyte

Joined: 06 Dec 2009
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Posted: Fri Apr 17, 2015 4:44 am Post subject: |
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pmwhittier wrote: |
At my previous employer, my contract said employee and yet NHIC had me listed at self employed. What I found out through first-hand shenanigans is that:
NHIC doesn't care if your contract says employee or not.
Pension office doesn't care if you're an employee or not.
Labor Board doesn't care if you're an employee or not.
When I started having troubles, I found out the hard way that the Labor Board (and many other government agencies) are only interested in clearly broken laws. Being treated badly, non-payment of insurance and pension, and hell-on-earth conditions are of NO CONCERN to the Labor Board. In fact, the Labor Board was nice enough to coach my employer on ways he could make my employment even more difficult all within the confines of the law.
Korean agencies will always help Korean employers first and foremost. Now that I know that, I sleep much better at night. |
I would say that in the last 10 years the LB has changed it tune a lot and now helps foreign employees as much as Koreans.
BUT.... the LB has nothing to do with anything tax-ish (income tax, pension, health insurance, etc.). In fact the LB has very little power to enforce anything. They really only give advice, keep records of labor complaints (which can hurt an employer indirectly), and help with immigration and the court. They can't really go after a bad employer other than with the threat of a complaint in their records. The pension and tax office CAN go after your employer and you can be sure that they WILL. The tax man wants his share of the pie and he'll go after it with a vengeance. |
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