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Is EPIK still crummy?

 
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shane_ryan



Joined: 06 Sep 2014
Location: San Diego, CA

PostPosted: Sun Apr 05, 2015 4:21 pm    Post subject: Is EPIK still crummy? Reply with quote

I found a lot of posts/threads on here that bashed the EPIK program quite badly, but they were 10+ years old.

1. Does EPIK still suck or have they improved?
2. I've never taught English abroad and I'd like to have my first experience be a good one.
3. I recently received an EPIK job application from my Oxford Seminars job placement counselor. Would this be worth filling out or should I pursue something else?

Thanks,
Shane
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kingplaya4



Joined: 14 May 2006

PostPosted: Mon Apr 06, 2015 5:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

EPIK is only for the financially desperate. If you can get a job elsewhere, I would not recommend it. You can do a search, and no, in most cases things haven't changed much.

If you want to get into teaching then work in your home country, and after you get three years of experience you could consider working at an international school.

The JET program in Japan might be an alternative if you really can't wait to go overseas, although I would ask on the Japan board to make sure it's still a good program.
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mleean



Joined: 02 Apr 2015

PostPosted: Mon Apr 06, 2015 10:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I got an application from one of the Oxford Seminar recruiters as well. I haven't filled it out yet because honestly, I've still continued to hear bad things.

Epik mainly focuses on public schools, I hear. Which tend to have better working hours and such for foreigners.

Depending on your situation, I would just do a personal search at first. Other recruiters are out there, though a lot of them are pushy and such, some of them can be very nice and helpful.

Make sure you have all your visa required documents first though, before you start looking. Those are super important.
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shane_ryan



Joined: 06 Sep 2014
Location: San Diego, CA

PostPosted: Wed Apr 08, 2015 8:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

[quote="kingplaya4"]If you want to get into teaching then work in your home country, and after you get three years of experience you could consider working at an international school.

To be honest I am not completely sure if teaching is a passion of mine as I've never done it before. At this point teaching abroad is just a means to an end; the end being traveling. I'm sure I'm not alone on this and the "real teachers" probably look down upon guys like me. But who knows, maybe I will love it and decide to make a career out of it. Thanks for the information on EPIK though I will definitely do some research and see what other options are out there.
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isitts



Joined: 25 Dec 2008
Location: Korea

PostPosted: Sat Apr 11, 2015 11:53 pm    Post subject: Re: Is EPIK still crummy? Reply with quote

shane_ryan wrote:
I found a lot of posts/threads on here that bashed the EPIK program quite badly, but they were 10+ years old.

1. Does EPIK still suck or have they improved?
2. I've never taught English abroad and I'd like to have my first experience be a good one.
3. I recently received an EPIK job application from my Oxford Seminars job placement counselor. Would this be worth filling out or should I pursue something else?

Thanks,
Shane

EPIK is fine. Just need to be mindful of budget cuts in the public schools here for foreign teachers.

How good the experience is depends on your location and how well you get along with your co-teacher(s).

They do require a TEFL/TESOL cert now. Not up to speed on how many hours it has to be or if it can be done online.

Anyway, it's a good place to start. That said, again, because of budget cuts and declining salaries, many here have been suggesting to those starting out in TEFL to check out China.

Hope that helps.
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isitts



Joined: 25 Dec 2008
Location: Korea

PostPosted: Sun Apr 12, 2015 12:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

kingplaya4 wrote:
If you want to get into teaching then work in your home country, and after you get three years of experience you could consider working at an international school.

A number of teachers came here because they couldn't find work in their home country or got laid off from their teaching jobs and don't have the necessary experience to work for an international school.

At any rate, you're suggesting a fairly big leap for someone who's interested in getting his feet wet with teaching and doing some traveling.

kingplaya4 wrote:
The JET program in Japan might be an alternative if you really can't wait to go overseas, although I would ask on the Japan board to make sure it's still a good program.

Um, JET was never a program to apply for if you were in a hurry to teach overseas. And their conditions have gone downhill as well, with budget cuts and schools being handed over to dispatchers.
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young_clinton



Joined: 09 Sep 2009

PostPosted: Mon Apr 13, 2015 3:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

EPIK essentially acts like a recruiter, they decide if you should be presented to the public school for hiring. The school you work at agrees to hire you, you are their employee not EPIK's employee. Unless you just have to work at a public school in Seoul or Busan best to avoid EPIK/GEPIK.
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Chaparrastique



Joined: 01 Jan 2014

PostPosted: Mon Apr 13, 2015 5:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

young_clinton wrote:
best to avoid EPIK/GEPIK.


Which leaves you with...hogwons? Oh yeah they're a much better option Rolling Eyes

So where should a newbie be looking exactly? because every type of teaching institution in the country regularly comes in for bitter criticism from teachers.

Oh well there's always the moon I suppose.
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