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1stworldview10



Joined: 02 Jul 2015

PostPosted: Mon Jul 20, 2015 3:42 pm    Post subject: Americans Flocking to China Reply with quote

A recent Chinese survey showed that 600,000 Americans were living in China at the end of 2014.

China is now issuing 10 year visas to Americans; in the past, most visas were limited to 30 days. In response, the US embassy has now started issuing 10 year tourist visas for Chinese nationals. With rapid growth of wealth in China, the likelihood of a Chinese person over-staying their visa is considered minimal. Experts say that there are now many more opportunities in China than in the US, thus the Chinese people are no longer looking to come to the US for economic reasons. In the past the US was a magnet for the poor of China, but in the last decade China moved over 600 million people from poverty to the middle class.

So what is drawing so many Americans and Europeans to China?

Education:

Now that China has become the world's economic super power they now have their eye on becoming the world's intellectual super power. A CNN special report last month predicted that China will have enrolled more than 75% of its toddlers in preschool by the end of the year. In contrast, the US has less that 24% of is children in preschool.

China now has over 4000 universities. In June of 2015, Chinese students took their equivalent of the SAT test, with more than 9.4 million students testing at exactly the same time. All testing facilities used video surveillance and facial recognition to insure no one was cheating, and even installed special material on the walls and windows to block all electronic signals. In China your test scores are the sole consideration for getting in a universality, not how much money you have or who your daddy knows. The average cost of university in China is under $1,500 per year. US public college is just under $10,000 per year, and private college costs amount to just under $45,000 per year on average. China has committed mass resources to education.

In contrast, Arizona Governor Doug Ducey has cut education funding to an all time low. The US ranks 38th in the world in education results; Arizona ranks 50th in the US. So why politicians and their major financial supporters do not care about public education; they have no plans to send their own children to public school or to Arizona Universities. Education in Arizona has grown so bad as to become a punch line in the recent comedy film TED2. Thousands of teachers are expected to leave education this year alone. These massive cuts where done to balance the budget after a billion dollar tax cut for the wealthy. Linda Collins, a teacher in Arizona, says, "It's simple: there is no support for education or the teachers in Arizona."

Ironically, the very corporations that pushed and benefited from these tax cuts, which then led to the cuts in education, those very corporations applied for more than 75,000 works visas, arguing they could not find the skilled labor needed in the US; most of the 75,000 work visas came from Asian countries.

Economic Stability:

Economic expert David Reagon say, "China is becoming the world super power, not using planes and bombs, but by the sheer force of financial power. China is making deals all over the world, from rare metals to commodities, to long term contacts for natural resources.

By contrast, US policy offers financial assistance to countries as payment for their support on issues such as wars on terror and drugs. To be successful, the policy depends on a supposed trickle down effect where the money spent hopefully touches the people who would benefit from it. China simply comes in and builds infrastructure to benefit everyone in the region. Roads, hospitals, shipping ports, and more. Only a few years ago China built a beautiful convention center in Jamaica, in return for a 25 year business relationship between themselves and Jamaican sugar production. China in the last decade has made these type of deals all over Africa, insuring it has all the natural resources it needs for decades to come.

Even in the US, China was able to get massive support for the Keystone Pipeline. The project that would bring cheap Canadian oil to ports in Texas. China already holds the contract for all steel pipe needed to build the project. And once the pipeline is completed, China would be the main receiver of the oil. Tanker bringing expensive middle eastern oil to the US, would typically returned empty. With the Keystone pipeline, tankers would be able to take cheap Canadian oil back to China. Since China has controlling interest in most of the Canadian tar sands projects, they would have final say on who gets the oil, currently the US is the only buyer of the oil. This would end if China can get the oil to a port.

China also recently signed a long-term agreement for natural gas and oil which it would receive via a Russian pipelines. Obviously, China has ensured itself long-term supplies of both oil and natural gas.

With stable supplies of natural resources and a county with virtually no debt and no ongoing wars, it is easy to see why China has such a stable economy."


Infrastructure:

David Goodwin editor of Escaping America says, "The mass transit system is so well done I see no reason to ever own a car. I can travel locally by metro, and from city to city by bullet trains. All for about 90% less than owning a car. China currently has over 1,500 bullet trains; US: 0. The cost is less then a lunch in the US.

Airlines are also inexpensive, many flights are only $50 to $200 to fly across the country with as little as one day booking and no baggage fees. All major cites have great metro systems, easy to navigate and signs and announcements are also in English, with digital displays letting you know where you are at.

Need a taxi? Taxies are always just click away and regulated by the government using meters. Most taxies and just a few dollars, a one hour ride about $25 USD.

There is little to no crime that I have seen. Opening a business here has been easy, and the government has helped make it easy to transfer funds into the country. I always hear that China is referred to as a communist country, but from what I have seen it looks like capitalism on steroids.

The only thing I don't like is the housing. Housing is much smaller than in the US, but the Chinese spend very little time at home. Here, I can stay in a nice hotel, with breakfast for less cost than owning a house in the US. But one upside of smaller housing is that it impacts the environment much less."

Family and Life Styles:

David further explains, "There are so many things to do in China, I'm never bored. China has everything you can imagine, and at a fraction of the cost. From night life to shopping, China is number one. Most of China is new, everything is carefully thought out, and well-planned. Another word is convenient: airports, train stations, and overall city lay out.

All the time I was in china I never saw a policeman with a gun. Just think about that for a moment: the police feel so safe they do not feel the need to carry guns.

One of the big things you will notice once you arrive in China is the diversity of the food. You find incredible restaurants everywhere you go, of every nationality. The cost of food is much less then US. I can easily afford to eat out every day, there is no tax or tips on food. But the quality of food is what stands out. The Chinese government has adopted very high standards regarding what can and can not be added to food. Many chemicals, hormones, and genetically altered foods are banned. In China, food is still made by chefs. In comparison, much of the food in the US is now made by scientists. General Mills, one of the largest food makers in the US, employs thousands of scientists, but very few chefs. As you would expect, nutrition habits are much better in China. Just walking down the street, you can see it. Rarely do you see anyone obese. In the US, well no more needs to be said. "

Kenneth Agee, International Business Consultant for A Foreign Affair - a US company operating dating sites in China, says, "The Chinese market has boomed in the last 10 years, and we currently operate more than 20 affiliate offices in China. We have seen a big change during this time. When we started operation, is was all about Chinese women wanting to meet and marry American men, and then move to the US. Now almost 50% of the women preferring marriage now want their new husbands to move to China. Most men we discuss this with are initially very reluctant to the idea. But upon arriving and seeing China, they are amazed at how far the country has come. They are also amazed that many of women here are financially able to support their husbands."

Each month, A Foreign Affair brings American men to China to meet Chinese women. These events attract hundreds of beautiful women looking for a husband. So popular have the events become, Chinese women often refer to American men as "Mail Order Grooms".

Environment:

China has also made big strides in pollution control. Many cites now use only natural gas buses and taxis. Most motorcycles are now electric. Not only is air pollution reduced, but noise pollution has dramatically declined.

Last year, more than 50% of China's new energy supply came from renewable energy sources.

Last year, nearly 560 million people planted more than 2.5 billion trees throughout China. The accumulated efforts of volunteers reached 8.8 billion with more than 42 billion trees planted during the 1982-2003 period. *NAC's statistics

To date, the area of human-planted trees across China has exceeded 46 million hectares (113 million acres - 176,000 sq miles) of trees, ranking it first in the world.

Meanwhile, in the US, many of our US leaders are still arguing that global climate change is a myth.

Healthcare:

By the end of 2008, China's leaders had already concluded that major reforms were necessary for both medical insurance and its delivery system, thus shoring up the system and ensuring social stability. In a fourth and ongoing phase of evolution, they officially abandoned the experiment with a health care system based predominantly on market principles, and committed to providing affordable basic health care for all Chinese people by 2020. By that time, a government-subsidized insurance system will provide 95% of the population with modest but comprehensive health coverage.

As of 2013, China had 9,800 private hospitals, which meant the people of China had a choice between public or private medical care. This created tremendous competition and kept costs extremely low but high in quality. In comparison, only 5,686 hospitals exist in all the US, either public or private. For most Chinese people, affordable and quality healthcare is just minutes away. David Goodwin states, "Healthcare is so affordable that I don't even need health insurance to afford to use a private hospital"


Conclusion:

Americans are seeing the great opportunities and a higher standard of living in China.Thus many Americans now call China Home.
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ttompatz



Joined: 05 Sep 2005
Location: Kwangju, South Korea

PostPosted: Mon Jul 20, 2015 6:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Like economic refugees from all over the world seeking better opportunities in centuries past ...

the great American diaspora begins.

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Chaparrastique



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PostPosted: Tue Jul 21, 2015 1:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

China will never have the quality of life of the west.

Unless you enjoy toxic air and horrible overcrowding.
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World Traveler



Joined: 29 May 2009

PostPosted: Tue Jul 21, 2015 2:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sounds like Korea.

Both proportionally and overall, more Easterners emigrate to the West than vice versa.
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slothrop



Joined: 03 Feb 2003

PostPosted: Tue Jul 21, 2015 9:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

if you go to the website that i assume the article in the OP comes from (because it is mentioned)...
http://www.escapefromamerica.com/

there is an article proclaiming Seoul to be the best party city in the world.
i think the bloggers on that website have credibility issues.
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JohnML



Joined: 05 Jul 2015

PostPosted: Tue Jul 21, 2015 11:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Chaparrastique wrote:
China will never have the quality of life of the west.

Unless you enjoy toxic air and horrible overcrowding.


People don't come for the quality of life, it's the culture, travel and occasionally weather. China is a pretty nice country despite some massive shithole cities and some horrible people. The west of China - yunnan is actually pretty nice and I would definitely consider living their if the salaries in China weren't bottom of the barrel. China actually may be a better quality of life at least similar to min wage in America which is really terrible... Anyone who is qualified in a decent career though is taking a huge salary cut and lifestyle degradation to go over there.

Similar to Korea actually, I prefer China over Korea although salary/income wise Korea is slightly better off than China. Still not worth the move for anyone with a good career.
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Who's Your Daddy?



Joined: 30 May 2010
Location: Victoria, Canada.

PostPosted: Tue Jul 21, 2015 1:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I visited Qingdao and thought it was nice.
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slothrop



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PostPosted: Wed Jul 22, 2015 12:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

chinese construction companies build new cities and sell apartments to rich chinese as investments but locals can not afford to rent them out so they remain ghost cities.

these same rich chinese buy property in the west and places like thailand and cheju-do causing real estate bubbles so locals and retirees can not afford to live in these places any more.

so now these foreigners who can not afford to live or retire in these places can move to china and rent out the empty apartments in the ghost cities, many of which were designed to resemble foriegn cities like paris, london and chiang mai.
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northway



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PostPosted: Wed Jul 22, 2015 5:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I would wager that a very large number of those individuals are anchor babies, Americans in Name Only.
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EastisEast



Joined: 29 May 2014
Location: Canada

PostPosted: Mon Aug 03, 2015 6:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Quality .. quality.


Quality in terms of people and lifestyle is lacking still, in much of China.
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CentralCali



Joined: 17 May 2007

PostPosted: Mon Aug 03, 2015 7:25 am    Post subject: Re: Americans Flocking to China Reply with quote

1stworldview10 wrote:
China is now issuing 10 year visas to Americans; in the past, most visas were limited to 30 days. In response, the US embassy has now started issuing 10 year tourist visas for Chinese nationals.


You seem to misunderstand what a 10-year validity visa is. The visa does not permit one to enter the country and hang out for 10 years. What it permits is multiple tourist visas during the ten-year validity of the visa. Each tourist visa must be limited to a certain number of days.
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Plain Meaning



Joined: 18 Oct 2014

PostPosted: Mon Aug 03, 2015 5:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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China has also made big strides in pollution control. Many cites now use only natural gas buses and taxis. Most motorcycles are now electric. Not only is air pollution reduced, but noise pollution has dramatically declined.


I laughed out loud. Yes, Beijing's pollution hit its peak in 2013 and now there seem to be efforts to do something about it. I would not say great strides. The noise pollution? People will honk their horns frequently and over no just cause.

Talking about 'China' as something beyond a unified political entity is almost meaningless. 1.3 billion people and many cultures and even languages.
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Fallacy



Joined: 29 Jun 2015
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 06, 2015 5:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

slothrop wrote:
chinese construction companies build new cities and sell apartments to rich chinese as investments but locals can not afford to rent them out so they remain ghost cities.

these same rich chinese buy property in the west and places like thailand and cheju-do causing real estate bubbles so locals and retirees can not afford to live in these places any more.

so now these foreigners who can not afford to live or retire in these places can move to china and rent out the empty apartments in the ghost cities, many of which were designed to resemble foriegn cities like paris, london and chiang mai.
Soon this will be rendered as "edit" or just deleted. Read quickly before disappearance.
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chellovek



Joined: 29 Feb 2008

PostPosted: Sun Sep 06, 2015 5:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

"Flocking" is putting it a bit strong, no?

People from one big country go to another big country with which it has extensive trade relations. Is this not....unremarkable?
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chellovek



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PostPosted: Sun Sep 06, 2015 5:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

That Kenneth Agee guy sounds like a smart cookie. China has boomed in the past 10 years and changed a lot? Holy smokes! That's incisive analysis! Idea
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