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melisseyo



Joined: 27 May 2014

PostPosted: Thu Jun 18, 2015 6:45 am    Post subject: Canadian College Work Experience and Korean Uni Job Reply with quote

Hi folks,

I'm just looking for some advice from some of you who are currently working at Korean universities to determine if my work experience in the education sector in Canada would count for anything. First, I'm a 34 year old female and I worked at a Canadian public college full time for 5 years as the International Marketing Advisor and later was promoted to the Supervisor of International Student Recruitment. My job was focused on developing and implementing marketing strategies to attract overseas students to study at my school. I spent significant time in Asia establishing our presence, training representatives of our schools, solidifying our marketing strategy, training our staff, meeting with Canadian Embassy Trade Commissioners, etc. I also taught for a total of five months at the same school, prior to being hired in the above mentioned role. I have an undergraduate degree in Management and am pursuing my MA in Learning and Teaching (anticipated completion of final project is April 2017).

I decided that I needed a major lifestyle change, and so I moved to Korea in September 2013, first studying Korean for a little over a year, and then starting work at a hagwon in January of this year. I want to transition to university if possible, and would like to start looking for jobs starting in Spring 2016. I'm just wondering if universities/colleges would consider my previous work experience at a Canadian public post secondary institution as "university work experience"? I know it won't be university teaching experience, but is it worth anything? Thanks in advance. Sorry for the long explanation to get to my question.
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ttompatz



Joined: 05 Sep 2005
Location: Kwangju, South Korea

PostPosted: Thu Jun 18, 2015 2:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you are talking about finding a job as a uni lecturer then it is the classroom experience they want, not your time as an office worker.

With your degree completion date in 2017 (2 years away) you are far too early to be thinking about a uni job.

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melisseyo



Joined: 27 May 2014

PostPosted: Thu Jun 18, 2015 4:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes, I was referring to a lecturer position. I'm not looking for a job now, but was thinking about the future and curious if my previous experience held any weight. Alternatively, I may focus on returning back to my old industry. Obviously, I made more than double the amount of money in Canada, but money isn't my main motivation in life, enjoying my life is my main goal, and I'm not crazy about the idea of returning to Canada. Thanks.

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PRagic



Joined: 24 Feb 2006

PostPosted: Fri Jun 19, 2015 12:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Try to get in at least 2 years of cumulative and verifiable teaching experience at the university level on your way to degree completion. While it may sound sexist, you have a better than average shot at getting a university gig over here as a female with an MA and the requisite 2 years of university teaching experience.

Without that experience? Odds are against you as this is now policy at most universities. Catch 22, yeah, but that's the deal. Tutoring won't cut it, either. You'll need to have taught classes.
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melisseyo



Joined: 27 May 2014

PostPosted: Fri Jun 19, 2015 5:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks very much for the advice PRagic. Do you have any suggestions on how to get university level teaching experience without an MA already in hand? It really is a catch 22 in this country with the you need university teaching experience to get university teaching experience business.
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Guajiro



Joined: 04 Dec 2008

PostPosted: Fri Jun 19, 2015 5:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

melisseyo wrote:
Thanks very much for the advice PRagic. Do you have any suggestions on how to get university level teaching experience without an MA already in hand? It really is a catch 22 in this country with the you need university teaching experience to get university teaching experience business.


Maybe get a couple of years of university teaching experience in China in the meantime. I hear bachelor degree holders without any teaching experience can get a college/university teaching gig in China. The pay is lower, but if you're not in it for the money...
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World Traveler



Joined: 29 May 2009

PostPosted: Fri Jun 19, 2015 6:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Guajiro wrote:
I hear bachelor degree holders without any teaching experience can get a college/university teaching gig in China.

That was true in the past, but not anymore. Two years of teaching experience is necessary to get any teaching job in China. The proof of teaching experience should be turned in when applying for the "foreign expert" Z visa.
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melisseyo



Joined: 27 May 2014

PostPosted: Fri Jun 19, 2015 6:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Guajiro, thanks for the idea, but that is definitely not an option. I've seen a lot of people suggesting China as an option to get the 2 years of work experience, and I always cringe. I used to go to China frequently for my previous job. I've been to 30+ cities, in all corners of the country, and many of them I've visited repeatedly. China is, without a doubt, the one place on this planet I would never consider living. It is a horrible place. Haha. Sorry for the harsh reply, but I can't even stand the idea of being in that country.

I believe I am simply caught in a catch 22, like many others here in Korea.
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PRagic



Joined: 24 Feb 2006

PostPosted: Sat Jun 20, 2015 12:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

You're not caught in the catch 22...yet. First you'll need that MA in hand lol.

As long as you're doing and ESL related MA, you might be able to get some classes to teach at your university. Never know until you ask. Check out local 2 year schools, too.

Once you get your MA, you might just want to rethink that China option to get your 2 years of experience. Or Vietnam or Thailand...anywhere.
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Guajiro



Joined: 04 Dec 2008

PostPosted: Sat Jun 20, 2015 2:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

World Traveler wrote:
Guajiro wrote:
I hear bachelor degree holders without any teaching experience can get a college/university teaching gig in China.

That was true in the past, but not anymore. Two years of teaching experience is necessary to get any teaching job in China. The proof of teaching experience should be turned in when applying for the "foreign expert" Z visa.


Well, yes and no. I think the further you get from Beijing, Shanghai, Shenzhen or other tier 1 cities the more likely it is immigration will accept any kind of somewhat relevant work experience post graduation from university.
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Guajiro



Joined: 04 Dec 2008

PostPosted: Sat Jun 20, 2015 2:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

melisseyo wrote:
Guajiro, thanks for the idea, but that is definitely not an option. I've seen a lot of people suggesting China as an option to get the 2 years of work experience, and I always cringe. I used to go to China frequently for my previous job. I've been to 30+ cities, in all corners of the country, and many of them I've visited repeatedly. China is, without a doubt, the one place on this planet I would never consider living. It is a horrible place. Haha. Sorry for the harsh reply, but I can't even stand the idea of being in that country.

I believe I am simply caught in a catch 22, like many others here in Korea.


Ouch... I've only been to Beijing, but I liked it. Then again, it was sunny with blue skies the entire week I was there so I got lucky I guess.
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