| View previous topic :: View next topic |
| Author |
Message |
talentedcrayon
Joined: 27 Aug 2013
Location: Why do you even care?
|
 Posted: Sun Jun 28, 2015 11:49 pm Post subject: Teaching Kindergarten on an E2: illegal? |
 |
|
Hello,
I recently signed a contract to teach kindergarten at a private kindergarten.
However, it has come to my attention that teaching kindergarten on an E2 visa may be illegal.
What are the laws concerning this? Is it only under certain circumstances? (such as publicly funded schools?) Or is this just a law across the board?
Thanks! |
|
| Back to top |
|
 |
ttompatz
Joined: 05 Sep 2005
Location: Kwangju, South Korea
|
| Posted: Mon Jun 29, 2015 2:45 pm Post subject: Re: Teaching Kindergarten on an E2: illegal? |
|
|
| talentedcrayon wrote: |
Hello,
I recently signed a contract to teach kindergarten at a private kindergarten.
However, it has come to my attention that teaching kindergarten on an E2 visa may be illegal.
What are the laws concerning this? Is it only under certain circumstances? (such as publicly funded schools?) Or is this just a law across the board?
Thanks! |
If they are licensed as a Kindergarten then it is illegal.
If they are licensed as a Kindergarten then they wouldn't be able to sponsor an E2 and you wouldn't get a visa.
If they are licensed as a foreign language institute (they also likely teach English classes to elementary school kids after 3pm) then it is fine. They can sponsor an E2 (get you a visa confirmation number from immigration).
. |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
Weigookin74
Joined: 26 Oct 2009
|
| Posted: Mon Jun 29, 2015 3:59 pm Post subject: |
|
|
| Why isn't a kindergarden allowed to hire a foreigner? It's the best age to elarn a language. Geeze the powers that be are dumb sometimes. |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
ttompatz
Joined: 05 Sep 2005
Location: Kwangju, South Korea
|
| Posted: Mon Jun 29, 2015 9:13 pm Post subject: |
|
|
| Weigookin74 wrote: |
| Why isn't a kindergarden allowed to hire a foreigner? It's the best age to elarn a language. Geeze the powers that be are dumb sometimes. |
Why can't tailors sell booze? (Sam's bar and tailor shop).
Because they are not a foreign language institute.
Change their license classification and no problem.
. |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
kabrams
Joined: 15 Mar 2008
Location: your Dad's house
|
| Posted: Mon Jun 29, 2015 9:18 pm Post subject: |
|
|
| Weigookin74 wrote: |
| Why isn't a kindergarden allowed to hire a foreigner? It's the best age to elarn a language. Geeze the powers that be are dumb sometimes. |
Teaching kindergarten/ECE requires a special set of skills and an educational background that many BA holders who decide to teach in Korea don't have. Many native speakers who are trained to teach kindergarten in their home countries are also unprepared to teach internationally. I know in the US for most if not all states you cannot teach kindergarten without at least a teacher's license in Early Childhood Education or K-3.
I think its a good move to restrict foreigners without the proper background from teaching kindergarteners. However, if Korea is serious about advancing English language skills amongst youngsters, they should work on recruiting educators with proper ECE backgrounds, or at least offer training and support for those who have teacher credentials in their home countries and may also want to also teach kindergarten. |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
tardisrider
Joined: 13 Mar 2003
Location: Seoul
|
| Posted: Tue Jun 30, 2015 6:21 am Post subject: |
|
|
| ttompatz wrote: |
Why can't tailors sell booze? (Sam's bar and tailor shop).
|
Actually I'll bet you could do that in Korea. . . |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
Weigookin74
Joined: 26 Oct 2009
|
| Posted: Thu Jul 02, 2015 6:00 am Post subject: |
|
|
| kabrams wrote: |
| Weigookin74 wrote: |
| Why isn't a kindergarden allowed to hire a foreigner? It's the best age to elarn a language. Geeze the powers that be are dumb sometimes. |
Teaching kindergarten/ECE requires a special set of skills and an educational background that many BA holders who decide to teach in Korea don't have. Many native speakers who are trained to teach kindergarten in their home countries are also unprepared to teach internationally. I know in the US for most if not all states you cannot teach kindergarten without at least a teacher's license in Early Childhood Education or K-3.
I think its a good move to restrict foreigners without the proper background from teaching kindergarteners. However, if Korea is serious about advancing English language skills amongst youngsters, they should work on recruiting educators with proper ECE backgrounds, or at least offer training and support for those who have teacher credentials in their home countries and may also want to also teach kindergarten. |
I taught in some public school kindergartens for a few months quite a few years ago. Those kids picked up English fast by me being there. Granted circulating around, the kids didn't see me everyday. I popped in did some songs and dances, spoke some phrases, played with them a bit then went on to the next kindergarten. Kids learn languages faster the younger they start. I never changed diapers or fed them, that was for the Korean female employees. I also spoke some basic Korean which helped. The ed office decided to replace me with a young female who spoke no Korean and had no teaching plan. It was kind of dumb as it was about the appearance of education rather than about actually learning, but Koreans are like that. Anyways, the ed office cancelled the experiment soon thereafter. Without me, it didn't work. Got to have some folks who speak English (the Korean staff did not, which made it tricky to plan or do anything). |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
kabrams
Joined: 15 Mar 2008
Location: your Dad's house
|
| Posted: Sun Jul 05, 2015 6:01 pm Post subject: |
|
|
| Weigookin74 wrote: |
| kabrams wrote: |
| Weigookin74 wrote: |
| Why isn't a kindergarden allowed to hire a foreigner? It's the best age to elarn a language. Geeze the powers that be are dumb sometimes. |
Teaching kindergarten/ECE requires a special set of skills and an educational background that many BA holders who decide to teach in Korea don't have. Many native speakers who are trained to teach kindergarten in their home countries are also unprepared to teach internationally. I know in the US for most if not all states you cannot teach kindergarten without at least a teacher's license in Early Childhood Education or K-3.
I think its a good move to restrict foreigners without the proper background from teaching kindergarteners. However, if Korea is serious about advancing English language skills amongst youngsters, they should work on recruiting educators with proper ECE backgrounds, or at least offer training and support for those who have teacher credentials in their home countries and may also want to also teach kindergarten. |
I taught in some public school kindergartens for a few months quite a few years ago. Those kids picked up English fast by me being there. Granted circulating around, the kids didn't see me everyday. I popped in did some songs and dances, spoke some phrases, played with them a bit then went on to the next kindergarten. Kids learn languages faster the younger they start. I never changed diapers or fed them, that was for the Korean female employees. I also spoke some basic Korean which helped. The ed office decided to replace me with a young female who spoke no Korean and had no teaching plan. It was kind of dumb as it was about the appearance of education rather than about actually learning, but Koreans are like that. Anyways, the ed office cancelled the experiment soon thereafter. Without me, it didn't work. Got to have some folks who speak English (the Korean staff did not, which made it tricky to plan or do anything). |
Why would you need to change the diapers of and feed kindergarteners? Also, what do you mean by picked up English fast?
nvmnd: Just realized kindergarten includes preschool-aged kids. |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
pjstarbuck
Joined: 05 Mar 2012
|
| Posted: Wed Jul 08, 2015 8:07 pm Post subject: |
|
|
| tardisrider wrote: |
| ttompatz wrote: |
Why can't tailors sell booze? (Sam's bar and tailor shop).
|
Actually I'll bet you could do that in Korea. . . |
not to derail the thread, but in Mokdong, Seoul, there's a taco shop that's also a sportsbook (toto/proto), and they serve booze. It's called "Taco Bet." |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
|
FAQ
Search
Memberlist
Usergroups
Register
Profile
Log in to check your private messages
Log in
