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drcrazy · Posted: Thu Nov 19, 2015 5:42 am Post subject: OMG

Look at all the crap you got to do just to apply tha for a job that lasts 10 days. And then what you got to do if you get the job.

http://www.eslcafe.com/jobs/korea/index.cgi?read=66234

Shocked

GENO123 · Joined: 28 Jan 2010

Esl korea is a dumpster fire

The Cosmic Hum · Joined: 09 May 2003 Location: Sonic Space

GENO123 · Joined: 28 Jan 2010

wonkavite62 · Joined: 17 Dec 2007 Location: Jeollanamdo, South Korea.

Ah, the government of Park Geun-hye in full pomp and pomposity! That was my first thought. They don't trust us-they don't trust us! Shocked

It is getting like something out of Franz Kafka, whose hero, Joseph K, became trapped in the coils of a labyrinthine bureaucracy.
And if it's just the university, and not the government, that requires all of this paperwork, why are they advertising for a kids' schoo? l Affiliated to them or not affiliated to them, it is still a hagwon. If they were as important as they think they are, the job would be with the Jade Emperor of Heaven, and have no connection with mere mortals whatsoever.

I have plenty of experience-but I for one won't be applying. You can bet your bottom dollar this job will be filled internally i.e. by someone there already.[/b]

DaeguNL · Joined: 08 Sep 2009

a lot of hoops to jump through for a 24,000 per hour 10 day job.
2 interviews AND a demo? CRC, degree and transcripts(didnt immi get rid of that requirement years ago?)

at least you get to participate in an unpaid workshop!

edwardcatflap · Joined: 22 Mar 2009

You could make nearly three times that working at the BC Summer school in Hong Kong on the strength of a CV and a phone call. In a much nicer place too.

wonkavite62 · Joined: 17 Dec 2007 Location: Jeollanamdo, South Korea.

Edward Catflap, I am sure you could find a good summer school in Hong Kong with as little paperwork as you described. You would probably get it if you were working in Hong Kong already. The job would be amazing if you got the same housing deal people get in Korea. For the record, there are quite a few good summer schools in Beijing, Shanghai, Guangzhou, places like that, and they don't ask you to submit all new documents. Even in Korea there's better than the job the OP mentioned.
I certainly would not apply unless I was teaching at the university already, and they waived all paperwork for me. I would also look at pay.

Mr. Pink · Joined: 21 Oct 2003 Location: China

Times gotta be tough when people need to jump through that many holes. 1.2mil which really is probably 900k when you deduct your time to go to the training, the time it takes to go to the interviews, the time it takes you apply and get all those official documents together.

What a joke. For 2 weeks of work?

To the point of the OP:

Since an ARC isn't necessarily for those in the teaching profession, it would make sense that if you are already in with the MoE in terms of the paperwork they require, then really the only thing you should be doing it bringing in those letters of reference.

IMO one of Korea's "most prestigious universities" shouldn't pay slave labor either. That gig should be at least 200k per day or 1mil a week.

The Cosmic Hum · Joined: 09 May 2003 Location: Sonic Space

Mr. Pink · Joined: 21 Oct 2003 Location: China

drcrazy · Posted: Mon Nov 23, 2015 12:52 am Post subject:

I just noticed this part:

Sealed and signed official degree and transcript must be sent directly to Konkuk University Language Institute

You know that at a university like that, there are Koreans who got an MA and/or a PhD in the US. They know that such a thing does not exist. I don't know of a place on Earth that you can get this. I bet they do not it in Korea either. You get one at graduation.

JohnML · Joined: 05 Jul 2015

I'd say it's actually more a case of people overvalue themselves than undervalue, this is a state of the market and to be honest if there are people willing to take it they have all rights to offer that amount. The money looks normal, quite a lot of qualified people are earning about that... but for 10 days it seems a bit inconvenient.

Still if they can get someone for that, which I suspect they can - why not? There's always going to be someone undercutting you, just for a job.

ed4444 · Joined: 12 Oct 2004

I remember two years ago I applied for a job at a big Uni in Seoul. It was a tenure track role with all of the hoops shown in this advertisement and more. They even demanded that all documents should be brought in in person even for the screening stage. So, when I went there I was immediately disqualified because my PhD was finished but I had not been conferred yet. Seeing as I was there, I decided to satisfy my curiosity by asking the Dean of Academic Affairs a couple of questions. I said that I think he might be making the application procedure too difficult to attract International faculty to Korea. I asked him how many valid applicants he had (this was about 3 days before the deadline). he said 5 applicants in total for about 30 open positions. I have seen the same list of positions advertised twice since again in the following two semesters on the Chronicle of Higher Education with the exact same requirements.

JohnML · Joined: 05 Jul 2015