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trueblue
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According to Swartz and Kepler, immigrants primarily go on welfare or compete for labor.
Often immigrants to America start their own businesses.
Immigrants are more likely to be entrepreneurs
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| Issued under the auspices of the U.S. Small Business Administration, the peer-reviewed study pulled data from three large, nationally representative government data sets, and found that immigrants are almost 30 percent more likely to launch a business than non-immigrants. According to the study, roughly 16.7 percent of all new business owners in this country are immigrants, yet immigrants make up only 12.2 percent of the workforce in the U.S. It also found that immigrant-owned businesses contributed roughly $67 billion to the country's business income, out of a total of $577 billion in 2000. |
The Most Entrepreneurial Group in America Wasn't Born in America
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[W]ithout the growth of immigrant-owned businesses like Cha's, the recession would have been much worse. From 1996 to 2011, the business startup rate of immigrants increased by more than 50 percent, while the native-born startup rate declined by 10 percent, to a 30-year low. Immigrants today are more than twice as likely to start a business as native-born citizens.
Despite accounting for only about 13 percent of the population, immigrants now start more than a quarter of new businesses in this country. Fast-growing ones, too--more than 20 percent of the 2014 Inc. 500 CEOs are immigrants. Immigrant-owned businesses pay an estimated $126 billion in wages per year, employing 1 in 10 Americans who work for private companies. In 2010, immigrant-owned businesses generated more than $775 billion in sales. If immigrant America were a stock, you'd be an idiot not to buy it. |
Six Immigrant Entrepreneurs
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Chris Folayan, a programmer, moved from Nigeria to the San Francisco Bay area to attend college. Every time that Folayan visited friends and family in Nigeria, people asked for products from the States or the United Kingdom. He started MallForAfrica in San Francisco to help African residents buy products from the U.S. and U.K.
In launching his company, Folayan had to confront stereotypes (that the African continent is magnet for cyber-crime and fraud) and misconceptions (that all Africans are poor and starving). MallForAfrica has beome a multimillion-dollar enterprise, with a network of 70 sites offering more than 7 billion items for sale. |
http://www.latinpost.com/articles/56571/20150530/immigrant-entrepreneurs-especially-latinos-are-fueling-the-us-startup-economy.htm
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the Latino share of new businesses created in 2014 has increased from 20.4 percent in 2013 to 22.1 percent in 2014 -- which is also more than double the rate compared to 1996. As of 2013, Latinos made up about 17.1 percent of the U.S. population, up from just over 10 percent in 1996.
. . .
As Alberto Dávila, chairman of economics and finance at the University of Texas-Pan American in Edinburg, Texas, told The Wall Street Journal, "If you dig into the numbers, it's really Mexican self-employment that is carrying this growth."
Such so-called "mom-and-pop" businesses, while fueled by entrepreneurial spirit, don't generally reach close to the same levels of success of other startups, like those famous high-tech, VC-funded "startups" that carry multibillion dollar valuations. Instead, Latino immigrant businesses are more likely to be family-based, and less likely to be funded by outside sources -- an increasingly essential step for expanding a startup beyond its initial phases.
Still, even small businesses make an impact on the local scale, and immigrant entrepreneurs are hugely driving that part of the economy.
For example, according to figures from the Fiscal Policy Institute and the Council of the Americas cited by WSJ, over the last three years in the majority of the 50 largest metropolitan areas in the U.S., the net growth of new local businesses -- like restaurants, salons, and local retailers -- accounted for by immigrant entrepreneurs? 100 percent. |
Immigrants launch over one in four new businesses
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| The new report shows that immigrants continue to be almost twice as likely as the native-born to become entrepreneurs. Immigrant entrepreneurs also launched 28.5 percent of new businesses in 2014, helping to fuel an uptick in new business creation nationally. That statistic is up from 25.9 percent in 2013 and 13.3 percent in 1996. |
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...kind of hard to see in here, with the smog screen of distraction that PM (and his acolytes) is spraying around. |
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Plain Meaning
Joined: 18 Oct 2014
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| Plain Meaning wrote: |
According to Swartz and Kepler, immigrants primarily go on welfare or compete for labor.
Often immigrants to America start their own businesses.
Immigrants are more likely to be entrepreneurs
| Quote: |
| Issued under the auspices of the U.S. Small Business Administration, the peer-reviewed study pulled data from three large, nationally representative government data sets, and found that immigrants are almost 30 percent more likely to launch a business than non-immigrants. According to the study, roughly 16.7 percent of all new business owners in this country are immigrants, yet immigrants make up only 12.2 percent of the workforce in the U.S. It also found that immigrant-owned businesses contributed roughly $67 billion to the country's business income, out of a total of $577 billion in 2000. |
The Most Entrepreneurial Group in America Wasn't Born in America
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[W]ithout the growth of immigrant-owned businesses like Cha's, the recession would have been much worse. From 1996 to 2011, the business startup rate of immigrants increased by more than 50 percent, while the native-born startup rate declined by 10 percent, to a 30-year low. Immigrants today are more than twice as likely to start a business as native-born citizens.
Despite accounting for only about 13 percent of the population, immigrants now start more than a quarter of new businesses in this country. Fast-growing ones, too--more than 20 percent of the 2014 Inc. 500 CEOs are immigrants. Immigrant-owned businesses pay an estimated $126 billion in wages per year, employing 1 in 10 Americans who work for private companies. In 2010, immigrant-owned businesses generated more than $775 billion in sales. If immigrant America were a stock, you'd be an idiot not to buy it. |
Six Immigrant Entrepreneurs
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Chris Folayan, a programmer, moved from Nigeria to the San Francisco Bay area to attend college. Every time that Folayan visited friends and family in Nigeria, people asked for products from the States or the United Kingdom. He started MallForAfrica in San Francisco to help African residents buy products from the U.S. and U.K.
In launching his company, Folayan had to confront stereotypes (that the African continent is magnet for cyber-crime and fraud) and misconceptions (that all Africans are poor and starving). MallForAfrica has beome a multimillion-dollar enterprise, with a network of 70 sites offering more than 7 billion items for sale. |
http://www.latinpost.com/articles/56571/20150530/immigrant-entrepreneurs-especially-latinos-are-fueling-the-us-startup-economy.htm
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the Latino share of new businesses created in 2014 has increased from 20.4 percent in 2013 to 22.1 percent in 2014 -- which is also more than double the rate compared to 1996. As of 2013, Latinos made up about 17.1 percent of the U.S. population, up from just over 10 percent in 1996.
. . .
As Alberto Dávila, chairman of economics and finance at the University of Texas-Pan American in Edinburg, Texas, told The Wall Street Journal, "If you dig into the numbers, it's really Mexican self-employment that is carrying this growth."
Such so-called "mom-and-pop" businesses, while fueled by entrepreneurial spirit, don't generally reach close to the same levels of success of other startups, like those famous high-tech, VC-funded "startups" that carry multibillion dollar valuations. Instead, Latino immigrant businesses are more likely to be family-based, and less likely to be funded by outside sources -- an increasingly essential step for expanding a startup beyond its initial phases.
Still, even small businesses make an impact on the local scale, and immigrant entrepreneurs are hugely driving that part of the economy.
For example, according to figures from the Fiscal Policy Institute and the Council of the Americas cited by WSJ, over the last three years in the majority of the 50 largest metropolitan areas in the U.S., the net growth of new local businesses -- like restaurants, salons, and local retailers -- accounted for by immigrant entrepreneurs? 100 percent. |
Immigrants launch over one in four new businesses
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| The new report shows that immigrants continue to be almost twice as likely as the native-born to become entrepreneurs. Immigrant entrepreneurs also launched 28.5 percent of new businesses in 2014, helping to fuel an uptick in new business creation nationally. That statistic is up from 25.9 percent in 2013 and 13.3 percent in 1996. |
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...kind of hard to see in here, with the smog screen of distraction that PM (and his acolytes) is spraying around. |
Your weak retort has only emboldened me.
Try to focus on the central issue: do immigrants terk 'er jerbs?
http://www.immigrationpolicy.org/just-facts/immigration-reform-and-job-growth
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Immigrants are not the cause of high U.S. unemployment.
Immigration is not associated with high unemployment at the regional, state, or county levels.
- If immigrants really “took” jobs away from large numbers of native-born workers, especially during economic hard times, then one would expect to find high unemployment rates in those parts of the country with the largest numbers of immigrants—especially immigrants who have come to the United States recently (many of whom are unauthorized) and, presumably, are more willing to work for lower wages and under worse conditions than either long-term immigrants or native-born workers. Yet a series of reports in 2009 by Rob Paral & Associates for the Immigration Policy Center found that there is little apparent relationship between recent immigration and unemployment rates at the regional, state, or county level.
- On average, recent immigrants comprise 3.1% of the population in counties with the highest unemployment rates (over 13.4%). But recent immigrants account for a higher share of the population (4.6%) in counties with the lowest unemployment rates (below 4.8%).
- The highest unemployment rates are found in counties located in manufacturing centers and rural areas—which tend to have relatively few recent immigrants. Recent immigrants usually go where the jobs are: metropolitan and non-manufacturing counties where unemployment rates are lower. |
https://www.aclu.org/immigrants-and-economy
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Contrary to popular belief, immigrants do not take away jobs from American workers. Instead, they create new jobs by forming new businesses, spending their incomes on American goods and services, paying taxes and raising the productivity of U.S. businesses. Immigrants are good for the economy, not the other way around.
- A U.S. Department of Labor study prepared by the Bush Administration noted that the perception that immigrants take jobs away from American workers is "the most persistent fallacy about immigration in popular thought" because it is based on the mistaken assumption that there is only a fixed number of jobs in the economy.
- Experts note that immigrants are blamed for unemployment because Americans can see the jobs immigrants fill but not the jobs they create through productivity, capital formation and demand for goods and services.
- Immigrants pay more than $90 billion in taxes every year and receive only $5 billion in welfare. Without their contributions to the public treasury, the economy would suffer enormous losses. |
Financialization ate the jobs, not immigration. |
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trueblue
Joined: 15 Jun 2014
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| trueblue wrote: |
| Plain Meaning wrote: |
According to Swartz and Kepler, immigrants primarily go on welfare or compete for labor.
Often immigrants to America start their own businesses.
Immigrants are more likely to be entrepreneurs
| Quote: |
| Issued under the auspices of the U.S. Small Business Administration, the peer-reviewed study pulled data from three large, nationally representative government data sets, and found that immigrants are almost 30 percent more likely to launch a business than non-immigrants. According to the study, roughly 16.7 percent of all new business owners in this country are immigrants, yet immigrants make up only 12.2 percent of the workforce in the U.S. It also found that immigrant-owned businesses contributed roughly $67 billion to the country's business income, out of a total of $577 billion in 2000. |
The Most Entrepreneurial Group in America Wasn't Born in America
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[W]ithout the growth of immigrant-owned businesses like Cha's, the recession would have been much worse. From 1996 to 2011, the business startup rate of immigrants increased by more than 50 percent, while the native-born startup rate declined by 10 percent, to a 30-year low. Immigrants today are more than twice as likely to start a business as native-born citizens.
Despite accounting for only about 13 percent of the population, immigrants now start more than a quarter of new businesses in this country. Fast-growing ones, too--more than 20 percent of the 2014 Inc. 500 CEOs are immigrants. Immigrant-owned businesses pay an estimated $126 billion in wages per year, employing 1 in 10 Americans who work for private companies. In 2010, immigrant-owned businesses generated more than $775 billion in sales. If immigrant America were a stock, you'd be an idiot not to buy it. |
Six Immigrant Entrepreneurs
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Chris Folayan, a programmer, moved from Nigeria to the San Francisco Bay area to attend college. Every time that Folayan visited friends and family in Nigeria, people asked for products from the States or the United Kingdom. He started MallForAfrica in San Francisco to help African residents buy products from the U.S. and U.K.
In launching his company, Folayan had to confront stereotypes (that the African continent is magnet for cyber-crime and fraud) and misconceptions (that all Africans are poor and starving). MallForAfrica has beome a multimillion-dollar enterprise, with a network of 70 sites offering more than 7 billion items for sale. |
http://www.latinpost.com/articles/56571/20150530/immigrant-entrepreneurs-especially-latinos-are-fueling-the-us-startup-economy.htm
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the Latino share of new businesses created in 2014 has increased from 20.4 percent in 2013 to 22.1 percent in 2014 -- which is also more than double the rate compared to 1996. As of 2013, Latinos made up about 17.1 percent of the U.S. population, up from just over 10 percent in 1996.
. . .
As Alberto Dávila, chairman of economics and finance at the University of Texas-Pan American in Edinburg, Texas, told The Wall Street Journal, "If you dig into the numbers, it's really Mexican self-employment that is carrying this growth."
Such so-called "mom-and-pop" businesses, while fueled by entrepreneurial spirit, don't generally reach close to the same levels of success of other startups, like those famous high-tech, VC-funded "startups" that carry multibillion dollar valuations. Instead, Latino immigrant businesses are more likely to be family-based, and less likely to be funded by outside sources -- an increasingly essential step for expanding a startup beyond its initial phases.
Still, even small businesses make an impact on the local scale, and immigrant entrepreneurs are hugely driving that part of the economy.
For example, according to figures from the Fiscal Policy Institute and the Council of the Americas cited by WSJ, over the last three years in the majority of the 50 largest metropolitan areas in the U.S., the net growth of new local businesses -- like restaurants, salons, and local retailers -- accounted for by immigrant entrepreneurs? 100 percent. |
Immigrants launch over one in four new businesses
| Quote: |
| The new report shows that immigrants continue to be almost twice as likely as the native-born to become entrepreneurs. Immigrant entrepreneurs also launched 28.5 percent of new businesses in 2014, helping to fuel an uptick in new business creation nationally. That statistic is up from 25.9 percent in 2013 and 13.3 percent in 1996. |
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...kind of hard to see in here, with the smog screen of distraction that PM (and his acolytes) is spraying around. |
Your weak retort has only emboldened me.
Try to focus on the central issue: do immigrants terk 'er jerbs?
http://www.immigrationpolicy.org/just-facts/immigration-reform-and-job-growth
| Quote: |
Immigrants are not the cause of high U.S. unemployment.
Immigration is not associated with high unemployment at the regional, state, or county levels.
- If immigrants really “took” jobs away from large numbers of native-born workers, especially during economic hard times, then one would expect to find high unemployment rates in those parts of the country with the largest numbers of immigrants—especially immigrants who have come to the United States recently (many of whom are unauthorized) and, presumably, are more willing to work for lower wages and under worse conditions than either long-term immigrants or native-born workers. Yet a series of reports in 2009 by Rob Paral & Associates for the Immigration Policy Center found that there is little apparent relationship between recent immigration and unemployment rates at the regional, state, or county level.
- On average, recent immigrants comprise 3.1% of the population in counties with the highest unemployment rates (over 13.4%). But recent immigrants account for a higher share of the population (4.6%) in counties with the lowest unemployment rates (below 4.8%).
- The highest unemployment rates are found in counties located in manufacturing centers and rural areas—which tend to have relatively few recent immigrants. Recent immigrants usually go where the jobs are: metropolitan and non-manufacturing counties where unemployment rates are lower. |
https://www.aclu.org/immigrants-and-economy
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Contrary to popular belief, immigrants do not take away jobs from American workers. Instead, they create new jobs by forming new businesses, spending their incomes on American goods and services, paying taxes and raising the productivity of U.S. businesses. Immigrants are good for the economy, not the other way around.
- A U.S. Department of Labor study prepared by the Bush Administration noted that the perception that immigrants take jobs away from American workers is "the most persistent fallacy about immigration in popular thought" because it is based on the mistaken assumption that there is only a fixed number of jobs in the economy.
- Experts note that immigrants are blamed for unemployment because Americans can see the jobs immigrants fill but not the jobs they create through productivity, capital formation and demand for goods and services.
- Immigrants pay more than $90 billion in taxes every year and receive only $5 billion in welfare. Without their contributions to the public treasury, the economy would suffer enormous losses. |
Financialization ate the jobs, not immigration. |
Conveniently, you sidestepped the word "illegal".
I did not embolden you...you are simply on the defensive, backed by smoke and mirrors. |
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Plain Meaning
Joined: 18 Oct 2014
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| Posted: Thu Nov 05, 2015 10:28 pm Post subject: |
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| trueblue wrote: |
| Plain Meaning wrote: |
| trueblue wrote: |
| Plain Meaning wrote: |
According to Swartz and Kepler, immigrants primarily go on welfare or compete for labor.
Often immigrants to America start their own businesses.
Immigrants are more likely to be entrepreneurs
| Quote: |
| Issued under the auspices of the U.S. Small Business Administration, the peer-reviewed study pulled data from three large, nationally representative government data sets, and found that immigrants are almost 30 percent more likely to launch a business than non-immigrants. According to the study, roughly 16.7 percent of all new business owners in this country are immigrants, yet immigrants make up only 12.2 percent of the workforce in the U.S. It also found that immigrant-owned businesses contributed roughly $67 billion to the country's business income, out of a total of $577 billion in 2000. |
The Most Entrepreneurial Group in America Wasn't Born in America
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[W]ithout the growth of immigrant-owned businesses like Cha's, the recession would have been much worse. From 1996 to 2011, the business startup rate of immigrants increased by more than 50 percent, while the native-born startup rate declined by 10 percent, to a 30-year low. Immigrants today are more than twice as likely to start a business as native-born citizens.
Despite accounting for only about 13 percent of the population, immigrants now start more than a quarter of new businesses in this country. Fast-growing ones, too--more than 20 percent of the 2014 Inc. 500 CEOs are immigrants. Immigrant-owned businesses pay an estimated $126 billion in wages per year, employing 1 in 10 Americans who work for private companies. In 2010, immigrant-owned businesses generated more than $775 billion in sales. If immigrant America were a stock, you'd be an idiot not to buy it. |
Six Immigrant Entrepreneurs
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Chris Folayan, a programmer, moved from Nigeria to the San Francisco Bay area to attend college. Every time that Folayan visited friends and family in Nigeria, people asked for products from the States or the United Kingdom. He started MallForAfrica in San Francisco to help African residents buy products from the U.S. and U.K.
In launching his company, Folayan had to confront stereotypes (that the African continent is magnet for cyber-crime and fraud) and misconceptions (that all Africans are poor and starving). MallForAfrica has beome a multimillion-dollar enterprise, with a network of 70 sites offering more than 7 billion items for sale. |
http://www.latinpost.com/articles/56571/20150530/immigrant-entrepreneurs-especially-latinos-are-fueling-the-us-startup-economy.htm
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the Latino share of new businesses created in 2014 has increased from 20.4 percent in 2013 to 22.1 percent in 2014 -- which is also more than double the rate compared to 1996. As of 2013, Latinos made up about 17.1 percent of the U.S. population, up from just over 10 percent in 1996.
. . .
As Alberto Dávila, chairman of economics and finance at the University of Texas-Pan American in Edinburg, Texas, told The Wall Street Journal, "If you dig into the numbers, it's really Mexican self-employment that is carrying this growth."
Such so-called "mom-and-pop" businesses, while fueled by entrepreneurial spirit, don't generally reach close to the same levels of success of other startups, like those famous high-tech, VC-funded "startups" that carry multibillion dollar valuations. Instead, Latino immigrant businesses are more likely to be family-based, and less likely to be funded by outside sources -- an increasingly essential step for expanding a startup beyond its initial phases.
Still, even small businesses make an impact on the local scale, and immigrant entrepreneurs are hugely driving that part of the economy.
For example, according to figures from the Fiscal Policy Institute and the Council of the Americas cited by WSJ, over the last three years in the majority of the 50 largest metropolitan areas in the U.S., the net growth of new local businesses -- like restaurants, salons, and local retailers -- accounted for by immigrant entrepreneurs? 100 percent. |
Immigrants launch over one in four new businesses
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| The new report shows that immigrants continue to be almost twice as likely as the native-born to become entrepreneurs. Immigrant entrepreneurs also launched 28.5 percent of new businesses in 2014, helping to fuel an uptick in new business creation nationally. That statistic is up from 25.9 percent in 2013 and 13.3 percent in 1996. |
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...kind of hard to see in here, with the smog screen of distraction that PM (and his acolytes) is spraying around. |
Your weak retort has only emboldened me.
Try to focus on the central issue: do immigrants terk 'er jerbs?
http://www.immigrationpolicy.org/just-facts/immigration-reform-and-job-growth
| Quote: |
Immigrants are not the cause of high U.S. unemployment.
Immigration is not associated with high unemployment at the regional, state, or county levels.
- If immigrants really “took” jobs away from large numbers of native-born workers, especially during economic hard times, then one would expect to find high unemployment rates in those parts of the country with the largest numbers of immigrants—especially immigrants who have come to the United States recently (many of whom are unauthorized) and, presumably, are more willing to work for lower wages and under worse conditions than either long-term immigrants or native-born workers. Yet a series of reports in 2009 by Rob Paral & Associates for the Immigration Policy Center found that there is little apparent relationship between recent immigration and unemployment rates at the regional, state, or county level.
- On average, recent immigrants comprise 3.1% of the population in counties with the highest unemployment rates (over 13.4%). But recent immigrants account for a higher share of the population (4.6%) in counties with the lowest unemployment rates (below 4.8%).
- The highest unemployment rates are found in counties located in manufacturing centers and rural areas—which tend to have relatively few recent immigrants. Recent immigrants usually go where the jobs are: metropolitan and non-manufacturing counties where unemployment rates are lower. |
https://www.aclu.org/immigrants-and-economy
| Quote: |
Contrary to popular belief, immigrants do not take away jobs from American workers. Instead, they create new jobs by forming new businesses, spending their incomes on American goods and services, paying taxes and raising the productivity of U.S. businesses. Immigrants are good for the economy, not the other way around.
- A U.S. Department of Labor study prepared by the Bush Administration noted that the perception that immigrants take jobs away from American workers is "the most persistent fallacy about immigration in popular thought" because it is based on the mistaken assumption that there is only a fixed number of jobs in the economy.
- Experts note that immigrants are blamed for unemployment because Americans can see the jobs immigrants fill but not the jobs they create through productivity, capital formation and demand for goods and services.
- Immigrants pay more than $90 billion in taxes every year and receive only $5 billion in welfare. Without their contributions to the public treasury, the economy would suffer enormous losses. |
Financialization ate the jobs, not immigration. |
Conveniently, you sidestepped the word "illegal".
I did not embolden you...you are simply on the defensive, backed by smoke and mirrors. |
Do you have anything absent strawmen? I am defending the proposition of legal immigration in general. I actually haven't even specifically defended the Immigration Act of 1965, much less have I said anything in favor of immigrants or immigration without status. |
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trueblue
Joined: 15 Jun 2014
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| Posted: Thu Nov 05, 2015 10:32 pm Post subject: |
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| trueblue wrote: |
| Plain Meaning wrote: |
| trueblue wrote: |
| Plain Meaning wrote: |
According to Swartz and Kepler, immigrants primarily go on welfare or compete for labor.
Often immigrants to America start their own businesses.
Immigrants are more likely to be entrepreneurs
| Quote: |
| Issued under the auspices of the U.S. Small Business Administration, the peer-reviewed study pulled data from three large, nationally representative government data sets, and found that immigrants are almost 30 percent more likely to launch a business than non-immigrants. According to the study, roughly 16.7 percent of all new business owners in this country are immigrants, yet immigrants make up only 12.2 percent of the workforce in the U.S. It also found that immigrant-owned businesses contributed roughly $67 billion to the country's business income, out of a total of $577 billion in 2000. |
The Most Entrepreneurial Group in America Wasn't Born in America
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[W]ithout the growth of immigrant-owned businesses like Cha's, the recession would have been much worse. From 1996 to 2011, the business startup rate of immigrants increased by more than 50 percent, while the native-born startup rate declined by 10 percent, to a 30-year low. Immigrants today are more than twice as likely to start a business as native-born citizens.
Despite accounting for only about 13 percent of the population, immigrants now start more than a quarter of new businesses in this country. Fast-growing ones, too--more than 20 percent of the 2014 Inc. 500 CEOs are immigrants. Immigrant-owned businesses pay an estimated $126 billion in wages per year, employing 1 in 10 Americans who work for private companies. In 2010, immigrant-owned businesses generated more than $775 billion in sales. If immigrant America were a stock, you'd be an idiot not to buy it. |
Six Immigrant Entrepreneurs
| Quote: |
Chris Folayan, a programmer, moved from Nigeria to the San Francisco Bay area to attend college. Every time that Folayan visited friends and family in Nigeria, people asked for products from the States or the United Kingdom. He started MallForAfrica in San Francisco to help African residents buy products from the U.S. and U.K.
In launching his company, Folayan had to confront stereotypes (that the African continent is magnet for cyber-crime and fraud) and misconceptions (that all Africans are poor and starving). MallForAfrica has beome a multimillion-dollar enterprise, with a network of 70 sites offering more than 7 billion items for sale. |
http://www.latinpost.com/articles/56571/20150530/immigrant-entrepreneurs-especially-latinos-are-fueling-the-us-startup-economy.htm
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the Latino share of new businesses created in 2014 has increased from 20.4 percent in 2013 to 22.1 percent in 2014 -- which is also more than double the rate compared to 1996. As of 2013, Latinos made up about 17.1 percent of the U.S. population, up from just over 10 percent in 1996.
. . .
As Alberto Dávila, chairman of economics and finance at the University of Texas-Pan American in Edinburg, Texas, told The Wall Street Journal, "If you dig into the numbers, it's really Mexican self-employment that is carrying this growth."
Such so-called "mom-and-pop" businesses, while fueled by entrepreneurial spirit, don't generally reach close to the same levels of success of other startups, like those famous high-tech, VC-funded "startups" that carry multibillion dollar valuations. Instead, Latino immigrant businesses are more likely to be family-based, and less likely to be funded by outside sources -- an increasingly essential step for expanding a startup beyond its initial phases.
Still, even small businesses make an impact on the local scale, and immigrant entrepreneurs are hugely driving that part of the economy.
For example, according to figures from the Fiscal Policy Institute and the Council of the Americas cited by WSJ, over the last three years in the majority of the 50 largest metropolitan areas in the U.S., the net growth of new local businesses -- like restaurants, salons, and local retailers -- accounted for by immigrant entrepreneurs? 100 percent. |
Immigrants launch over one in four new businesses
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| The new report shows that immigrants continue to be almost twice as likely as the native-born to become entrepreneurs. Immigrant entrepreneurs also launched 28.5 percent of new businesses in 2014, helping to fuel an uptick in new business creation nationally. That statistic is up from 25.9 percent in 2013 and 13.3 percent in 1996. |
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...kind of hard to see in here, with the smog screen of distraction that PM (and his acolytes) is spraying around. |
Your weak retort has only emboldened me.
Try to focus on the central issue: do immigrants terk 'er jerbs?
http://www.immigrationpolicy.org/just-facts/immigration-reform-and-job-growth
| Quote: |
Immigrants are not the cause of high U.S. unemployment.
Immigration is not associated with high unemployment at the regional, state, or county levels.
- If immigrants really “took” jobs away from large numbers of native-born workers, especially during economic hard times, then one would expect to find high unemployment rates in those parts of the country with the largest numbers of immigrants—especially immigrants who have come to the United States recently (many of whom are unauthorized) and, presumably, are more willing to work for lower wages and under worse conditions than either long-term immigrants or native-born workers. Yet a series of reports in 2009 by Rob Paral & Associates for the Immigration Policy Center found that there is little apparent relationship between recent immigration and unemployment rates at the regional, state, or county level.
- On average, recent immigrants comprise 3.1% of the population in counties with the highest unemployment rates (over 13.4%). But recent immigrants account for a higher share of the population (4.6%) in counties with the lowest unemployment rates (below 4.8%).
- The highest unemployment rates are found in counties located in manufacturing centers and rural areas—which tend to have relatively few recent immigrants. Recent immigrants usually go where the jobs are: metropolitan and non-manufacturing counties where unemployment rates are lower. |
https://www.aclu.org/immigrants-and-economy
| Quote: |
Contrary to popular belief, immigrants do not take away jobs from American workers. Instead, they create new jobs by forming new businesses, spending their incomes on American goods and services, paying taxes and raising the productivity of U.S. businesses. Immigrants are good for the economy, not the other way around.
- A U.S. Department of Labor study prepared by the Bush Administration noted that the perception that immigrants take jobs away from American workers is "the most persistent fallacy about immigration in popular thought" because it is based on the mistaken assumption that there is only a fixed number of jobs in the economy.
- Experts note that immigrants are blamed for unemployment because Americans can see the jobs immigrants fill but not the jobs they create through productivity, capital formation and demand for goods and services.
- Immigrants pay more than $90 billion in taxes every year and receive only $5 billion in welfare. Without their contributions to the public treasury, the economy would suffer enormous losses. |
Financialization ate the jobs, not immigration. |
Conveniently, you sidestepped the word "illegal".
I did not embolden you...you are simply on the defensive, backed by smoke and mirrors. |
Do you have anything absent strawmen? I am defending the proposition of legal immigration in general. I actually haven't even specifically defended the Immigration Act of 1965, much less have I said anything in favor of immigrants or immigration without status. |
Again, smoke and mirrors. |
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| I am actually interested in immigration policy, particularly in the United States. |
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trueblue
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| I am actually interested in immigration policy, particularly in the United States. |
And Shwartz has done a fine job on counseling you on your grandiose thinking...or did he do that to SR? |
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Swartz's entry into the thread was "Repeal it" followed quickly by an approving quotation "something I would say" about the influence a "New York socialist Jew" had on the Immigration Act of 1965.
He is at war with socialists or Jews or whatever. I think if he hopes to defeat socialists or Jews or whatever, he has chosen this forum as the wrong battlefield. |
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Swartz
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According to Swartz and Kepler, immigrants primarily go on welfare or compete for labor.
Often immigrants to America start their own businesses.
[url=/bw/stories/2008-11-25/immigrants-are-more-likely-to-be-entrepreneursbusinessweek-business-news-stock-market-and-financial-advice]Immigrants are more likely to be entrepreneurs[/url]
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| Issued under the auspices of the U.S. Small Business Administration, the peer-reviewed study pulled data from three large, nationally representative government data sets, and found that immigrants are almost 30 percent more likely to launch a business than non-immigrants. According to the study, roughly 16.7 percent of all new business owners in this country are immigrants, yet immigrants make up only 12.2 percent of the workforce in the U.S. It also found that immigrant-owned businesses contributed roughly $67 billion to the country's business income, out of a total of $577 billion in 2000. |
[url=/magazine/201502/adam-bluestein/the-most-entrepreneurial-group-in-america-wasnt-born-in-america.html]The Most Entrepreneurial Group in America Wasn't Born in America[/url]
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[W]ithout the growth of immigrant-owned businesses like Cha's, the recession would have been much worse. From 1996 to 2011, the business startup rate of immigrants increased by more than 50 percent, while the native-born startup rate declined by 10 percent, to a 30-year low. Immigrants today are more than twice as likely to start a business as native-born citizens.
Despite accounting for only about 13 percent of the population, immigrants now start more than a quarter of new businesses in this country. Fast-growing ones, too--more than 20 percent of the 2014 Inc. 500 CEOs are immigrants. Immigrant-owned businesses pay an estimated $126 billion in wages per year, employing 1 in 10 Americans who work for private companies. In 2010, immigrant-owned businesses generated more than $775 billion in sales. If immigrant America were a stock, you'd be an idiot not to buy it. |
[url=/article/233108]Six Immigrant Entrepreneurs[/url]
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Chris Folayan, a programmer, moved from Nigeria to the San Francisco Bay area to attend college. Every time that Folayan visited friends and family in Nigeria, people asked for products from the States or the United Kingdom. He started MallForAfrica in San Francisco to help African residents buy products from the U.S. and U.K.
In launching his company, Folayan had to confront stereotypes (that the African continent is magnet for cyber-crime and fraud) and misconceptions (that all Africans are poor and starving). MallForAfrica has beome a multimillion-dollar enterprise, with a network of 70 sites offering more than 7 billion items for sale. |
http://www.latinpost.com/articles/56571/20150530/immigrant-entrepreneurs-especially-latinos-are-fueling-the-us-startup-economy.htm
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the Latino share of new businesses created in 2014 has increased from 20.4 percent in 2013 to 22.1 percent in 2014 -- which is also more than double the rate compared to 1996. As of 2013, Latinos made up about 17.1 percent of the U.S. population, up from just over 10 percent in 1996.
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As Alberto Dávila, chairman of economics and finance at the University of Texas-Pan American in Edinburg, Texas, told The Wall Street Journal, "If you dig into the numbers, it's really Mexican self-employment that is carrying this growth."
Such so-called "mom-and-pop" businesses, while fueled by entrepreneurial spirit, don't generally reach close to the same levels of success of other startups, like those famous high-tech, VC-funded "startups" that carry multibillion dollar valuations. Instead, Latino immigrant businesses are more likely to be family-based, and less likely to be funded by outside sources -- an increasingly essential step for expanding a startup beyond its initial phases.
Still, even small businesses make an impact on the local scale, and immigrant entrepreneurs are hugely driving that part of the economy.
For example, according to figures from the Fiscal Policy Institute and the Council of the Americas cited by WSJ, over the last three years in the majority of the 50 largest metropolitan areas in the U.S., the net growth of new local businesses -- like restaurants, salons, and local retailers -- accounted for by immigrant entrepreneurs? 100 percent. |
[url=/2015/06/22/immigrant-entrepreneurs-launch-over-1-in-4-new-businesses/]Immigrants launch over one in four new businesses[/url]
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| The new report shows that immigrants continue to be almost twice as likely as the native-born to become entrepreneurs. Immigrant entrepreneurs also launched 28.5 percent of new businesses in 2014, helping to fuel an uptick in new business creation nationally. That statistic is up from 25.9 percent in 2013 and 13.3 percent in 1996. |
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I can’t help but feel embarrassed for you. You have no idea how any of this works, yet you think you can signal your intelligence to others by mimicking mainstream media POVs. If you weren’t so self-loathing and hostile to others, you might actually learn something from time to time. The US has been turned into a free trade zone that legally lets in over a million nonwhite immigrants a year. Many of these people are well-off and are simply looking to offshore their funds by purchasing investor visas that quickly turn them into immigrant “businessmen.” Most of them are high IQ Asians and other global elites who are using the US to hide their cash while taking advantage of our education systems, healthcare systems, etc. This inflates the numbers greatly and contributes to vague, anecdotal, feel good propaganda stories that are bought into by low-T dupes who are easily manipulated by emotional appeals. Anyone with a drop of awareness and experience knows that the picture portrayed above is cat lady-grade agitprop. Mestizos are not industrious people whatsoever, and do little more than recreate their homebarrio’s taco shops and stuff like that. They are many thousands of times more likely to be on welfare than start businesses.
The US is completely corrupted and controlled by dual-citizen communists whose goal is to marginalize the White majority through demographic displacement and by advancing minorities over that majority. That’s why Hispanics receive all kinds of grants and are allowed to have their own chambers of commerce throughout the US, to make it easier for them. That’s how Indians received control of the low-end hotel chain industry. That’s why rich foreigners are allowed to literally *purchase* American citizenship through immigrant investor programs and become “businessmen.” That’s why rich foreign investors funnel their cash into overpriced property and stakes in overvalued tech companies. And what all of that indicates is not that immigrant businesses/investment = all good for everyone, it’s simply more proof of a corrupted system that isn’t looking out for its own citizens. Period.
US officials allowing the elite 1% from other countries to set up shop here is disastrous for their home countries and economies. The US economy is addicted to short term growth and needs it in order to not collapse under its own weight, but that is not an especially good thing at all - it’s very bad - but it is far from the only factor to consider. The home countries of these arrivals lose, as do average Americans, because wages, job stability, and national cohesion, just to name a few, suffer. Kuros doesn’t know the first thing about the business environment in the US and how it functions at a macro level. He googled positive immigrant business stories and came across what he wanted to hear in a seven year old Bloomberg article and a few third-tier leftist rags, then thought he would receive moral signaling points by reposting that drivel here to display his tolerance. The guy doesn’t know what he’s talking about, clueless, spayed, and eternally hoodwinked, which is why he sticks to emotionally-based cat lady news and fishes for stories that paint an oversimplified, rosy picture of a reality that is ultimately false. What a superb illustration of Western man’s present weakness, effortlessly conditioned by Oprah stories to bend over for pillagers. |
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I can’t help but feel embarrassed for you. You have no idea how any of this works, yet you think you can signal your intelligence to others by mimicking mainstream media POVs. If you weren’t so self-loathing and hostile to others, you might actually learn something from time to time. The US has been turned into a free trade zone that legally lets in over a million nonwhite immigrants a year. Many of these people are well-off and are simply looking to offshore their funds by purchasing investor visas that quickly turn them into immigrant “businessmen.” Most of them are high IQ Asians and other global elites who are using the US to hide their cash while taking advantage of our education systems, healthcare systems, etc. This inflates the numbers greatly and contributes to vague, anecdotal, feel good propaganda stories that are bought into by low-T dupes who are easily manipulated by emotional appeals. Anyone with a drop of awareness and experience knows that the picture portrayed above is cat lady-grade agitprop. Mestizos are not industrious people whatsoever, and do little more than recreate their homebarrio’s taco shops and stuff like that. They are many thousands of times more likely to be on welfare than start businesses.
The US is completely corrupted and controlled by dual-citizen communists whose goal is to marginalize the White majority through demographic displacement and by advancing minorities over that majority. That’s why Hispanics receive all kinds of grants and are allowed to have their own chambers of commerce throughout the US, to make it easier for them. That’s how Indians received control of the low-end hotel chain industry. That’s why rich foreigners are allowed to literally *purchase* American citizenship through immigrant investor programs and become “businessmen.” That’s why rich foreign investors funnel their cash into overpriced property and stakes in overvalued tech companies. And what all of that indicates is not that immigrant businesses/investment = all good for everyone, it’s simply more proof of a corrupted system that isn’t looking out for its own citizens. Period.
US officials allowing the elite 1% from other countries to set up shop here is disastrous for their home countries and economies. The US economy is addicted to short term growth and needs it in order to not collapse under its own weight, but that is not an especially good thing at all - it’s very bad - but it is far from the only factor to consider. The home countries of these arrivals lose, as do average Americans, because wages, job stability, and national cohesion, just to name a few, suffer. Kuros doesn’t know the first thing about the business environment in the US and how it functions at a macro level. He googled positive immigrant business stories and came across what he wanted to hear in a seven year old Bloomberg article and a few third-tier leftist rags, then thought he would receive moral signaling points by reposting that drivel here to display his tolerance. The guy doesn’t know what he’s talking about, clueless, spayed, and eternally hoodwinked, which is why he sticks to emotionally-based cat lady news and fishes for stories that paint an oversimplified, rosy picture of a reality that is ultimately false. What a superb illustration of Western man’s present weakness, effortlessly conditioned by Oprah stories to bend over for pillagers. |
This is your pet issue, by your own admission. I gave you a week's head-start. Then I half-assed a rebuttal, as you basically said, by googling a bunch of articles that contradicted you. And yet, your case is so flimsy and weak that it was enough.
How many times are you going to insult my manhood, by the way, before you realize that its just you signalling that you feel emasculated? |
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Leon
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| Curious, what is your opinion on visas for families, which must be a major source of legal immigration, and the way in which I have contributed to bringing non-white people to the states? |
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trueblue
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| Curious, what is your opinion on visas for families, which must be a major source of legal immigration, and the way in which I have contributed to bringing non-white people to the states? |
Ah, there it is...pivoting and distraction. |
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trueblue
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| Swartz wrote: |
I can’t help but feel embarrassed for you. You have no idea how any of this works, yet you think you can signal your intelligence to others by mimicking mainstream media POVs. If you weren’t so self-loathing and hostile to others, you might actually learn something from time to time. The US has been turned into a free trade zone that legally lets in over a million nonwhite immigrants a year. Many of these people are well-off and are simply looking to offshore their funds by purchasing investor visas that quickly turn them into immigrant “businessmen.” Most of them are high IQ Asians and other global elites who are using the US to hide their cash while taking advantage of our education systems, healthcare systems, etc. This inflates the numbers greatly and contributes to vague, anecdotal, feel good propaganda stories that are bought into by low-T dupes who are easily manipulated by emotional appeals. Anyone with a drop of awareness and experience knows that the picture portrayed above is cat lady-grade agitprop. Mestizos are not industrious people whatsoever, and do little more than recreate their homebarrio’s taco shops and stuff like that. They are many thousands of times more likely to be on welfare than start businesses.
The US is completely corrupted and controlled by dual-citizen communists whose goal is to marginalize the White majority through demographic displacement and by advancing minorities over that majority. That’s why Hispanics receive all kinds of grants and are allowed to have their own chambers of commerce throughout the US, to make it easier for them. That’s how Indians received control of the low-end hotel chain industry. That’s why rich foreigners are allowed to literally *purchase* American citizenship through immigrant investor programs and become “businessmen.” That’s why rich foreign investors funnel their cash into overpriced property and stakes in overvalued tech companies. And what all of that indicates is not that immigrant businesses/investment = all good for everyone, it’s simply more proof of a corrupted system that isn’t looking out for its own citizens. Period.
US officials allowing the elite 1% from other countries to set up shop here is disastrous for their home countries and economies. The US economy is addicted to short term growth and needs it in order to not collapse under its own weight, but that is not an especially good thing at all - it’s very bad - but it is far from the only factor to consider. The home countries of these arrivals lose, as do average Americans, because wages, job stability, and national cohesion, just to name a few, suffer. Kuros doesn’t know the first thing about the business environment in the US and how it functions at a macro level. He googled positive immigrant business stories and came across what he wanted to hear in a seven year old Bloomberg article and a few third-tier leftist rags, then thought he would receive moral signaling points by reposting that drivel here to display his tolerance. The guy doesn’t know what he’s talking about, clueless, spayed, and eternally hoodwinked, which is why he sticks to emotionally-based cat lady news and fishes for stories that paint an oversimplified, rosy picture of a reality that is ultimately false. What a superb illustration of Western man’s present weakness, effortlessly conditioned by Oprah stories to bend over for pillagers. |
This is your pet issue, by your own admission. I gave you a week's head-start. Then I half-assed a rebuttal, as you basically said, by googling a bunch of articles that contradicted you. And yet, your case is so flimsy and weak that it was enough.
How many times are you going to insult my manhood, by the way, before you realize that its just you signalling that you feel emasculated? |
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You did not give anyone, anything PM. |
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Leon
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| Leon wrote: |
| Curious, what is your opinion on visas for families, which must be a major source of legal immigration, and the way in which I have contributed to bringing non-white people to the states? |
Ah, there it is...pivoting and distraction. |
Ah, there it is... drivel and an unearned sense of superiority. |
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trueblue
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| Leon wrote: |
| trueblue wrote: |
| Leon wrote: |
| Curious, what is your opinion on visas for families, which must be a major source of legal immigration, and the way in which I have contributed to bringing non-white people to the states? |
Ah, there it is...pivoting and distraction. |
Ah, there it is... drivel and an unearned sense of superiority. |
No, I don't have an "unearned sense of superiority" (but nice attempt to polarize and infuse more distraction). I am not a modern liberal. |
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