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[Zackback]

A flood of public disapproval swamped the movement to allow women to go topless in public in Fort Collins.

The City Council on Tuesday voted to change city code regarding public nudity, but not to the extent that women may legally expose their breasts in parks and other public places.

Exceptions would be breastfeeding women, medical emergencies and places where nudity would be expected, such as locker rooms.

The decision came in front of a packed City Council chamber after council members heard from dozens of residents about how allowing women to go topless would damage the community and its reputation.

Some predicted that permitting exposed breasts would decrease respect toward women and potentially put them in danger. Others said men and women are equal in the eyes of the law, but they and their chests are inherently different and should be treated accordingly.

Mayor Wade Troxell said the sentiment of the community came through “loud and clear” at the meeting as well as the many emails and phone calls directed at council members.

Councilman Ray Martinez said he didn’t want to see “Fort Collins turned into a strip club.”

The measure, which was amended to prohibit exposing the breast below the top of the nipple, passed unanimously.

Fort Collins resident Rachel Dozier said if public nudity were allowed, she would have to reconsider staying the city and raising a family here. Exposure to sexually explicit material is harmful to children, she said.

She said those who believe want the “freedom” to go topless do not have a valid argument.

“Our rights and freedom are not rights to the detriment of the people around us,” she said.

The issue has been pressed by Fort Collins resident Brittiany Hoagland and others who believe the ban on women going topless is sexist. The issue is a matter of gender equality, Hoagland told council members.

Samantha Six, who wore a T-shirt stating “Free the Nipple,” said the prohibition on topless women only leads to sexualizing and degrading women. She also took issue with those said they had moral concerns about the proposal.

“Equal but different isn’t equal,” she said. “And there isn’t room for religion in a public forum.”

A few speakers supported removing all references to the female breast from city code. But the vast majority of speakers opposed changing the code in any way.

Erin Kisling said she did not want her daughters treated as sexual objects. The matter was not as simple as proponents of changing the law claimed, she said.

“It’s about decency, respect, protecting oneself, teaching your children the value of their body and not giving in to the few who seek to cause noise and shock value,” she said.

An online survey posted by the city drew 8,750 responses, with 60.9 percent of respondents opposed to allowing women to be topless in public, but granting the exception of breastfeeding mothers, and 36.7 percent in support of lifting the ban.

Rules for appearing topless vary around the state. Denver and Boulder do not have prohibitions on women exposing their breasts, according to a city report.

Loveland prohibits exposure of the female breast below the top of the nipple; Colorado Springs prohibits exposure with the element to arouse or alarm; and Greeley prohibits lewd exposure, including the breasts of either sex, with the element to arouse or alarm.
http://www.coloradoan.com/story/news/2015/10/21/city-council-women-go-topless-fort-collins/74312468/

I am not sure how this can be in accord with the equal protection clause.
Women or men want to walk around topless in public is okay with me.

[catman]

Neither can in Korea. I like it that way.

[bigverne]

Feminism is inane.

[Zackback]

[yodanole]

It might be OK. As with anything, There are concerns.
Some limitations should be considered.
Leotards, for example, should have regulations similar
to those imposed on bridges. For example:
Weight limit: 8 Tons.

However ...

https://www.yahoo.com/style/parent-calls-the-cops-on-teen-boys-showing-support-180832106.html

[chellovek]

TL;DR-

"Get them funbags out"- ZB.

[Stain]

Freedom is for people who don't want anything. Hence, NOBODY is free.

[Titus2]

Men and women are different and react to the sight of the opposite sex differently.

[schwa]

[bigverne]

[schwa]

[caniff]

Some breasteses are nice and very presentable. Others, not so much.

[schwa]

True.

[TorontoToronto]

This has been legal in Canada (or at least Ontario) for seemingly a generation now. Despite dire predictions of topless women attending church, doing their banking topless, grocery store shopping topless, picking up their kids at school topless, etc. none of this happened. Women generally do what women generally do. Dress for the beach at the beach. Dress for church at church. And so on.

About the only negative thing that happened after they struck down the topless law in Ontario was, for a time, women at the beach were being harassed by men who felt women should BE topless.

[geldedgoat]