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Swartz
Joined: 19 Dec 2014
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| Forum is simply worse now. Not everything is about you. The atmosphere is bad for a number of reasons. For example, for all your flaws, I doubt you actively wear a sock. |
Huh? Make up your mind, Nancy.
Anyway, Boris Johnson is bad news on immigration, and apparently he's some kind of blond Turk, so him sitting it out is probably good. Things are not good in Britain though, as positive a step as Brexit is for integrity alone. “Conservative” politicians still can't talk about ending immigration or sending people back, but even UKIP takes a soft stand on immigration because of all the Jewish money they receive, as Jack Sen has highlighted since getting purged from the party for talking about Jewish influence.
People don't want to believe this aspect of our reality, but it's impossible to understand current events if you ignore it or downplay it. I doubt anyone here is even aware that David Cameron is Jewish, for instance. They control both sides, or all sides, always, primarily through the control of money. They create problems, advance a monetary fix for those problems, and put nations into debt which makes them easy to manipulate. As a result we get weak patsies as politicians who make decisions in their favor. It's not very complicated and it's been going on for centuries, millennia even.
Case in point related to Brexit: you thought the English would be forging a new independent national destiny and be the ones making the initial decisions for themselves? Not so fast. The Brits haven't actually controlled Britain for a long time. The City of London is what Pat Buchanon referred to Congress as way back in the 1970s: Israeli Occupied Territory. Thus, (((Oliver Lewtin))), former Rothschild employee, is the individual who has been put in charge of the Brexit negotiations.
https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/1358321/king-of-clangers-tory-minister-oliver-letwin-put-in-charge-of-britains-brexit-negotiations/
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bigverne
Joined: 12 May 2004
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| Posted: Thu Jun 30, 2016 9:20 pm Post subject: |
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| The problem in the UK and the US are fake-conservative parties like the Republicans and the Tories. They are completely bought by special interests, but still manage to sucker in voters come election time with overtures about controlling immigration or 'taking power back from Brussels.' The Tories never had any intention of limiting immigration or leaving the EU, but due to the collapse of the Liberal Democrats, had no excuse to prevent holding a referendum, which they lost. With Labour losing their white working class base and becoming the party of ethnic minorities and the ethnomasocist, Guardian-reading left, there is a huge chasm for an economically populist, anti-mass immigration party. Unfortunately, UKIP currently contains too many wet Tories and Thatcherites to appeal to working-class whites. |
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Plain Meaning
Joined: 18 Oct 2014
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| Posted: Sat Jul 09, 2016 9:58 am Post subject: |
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Still no invocation of Article 50.
Your move, Scotland. |
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young_clinton
Joined: 09 Sep 2009
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| Posted: Sat Jul 09, 2016 11:41 am Post subject: |
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| Nobody wants to have a ball and chain. I totally sympathize. The EU's days are numbered, thanks to all the crap that England France Germany Scandanavia Holland Belgium Switzerland were tied to. |
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greyhound
Joined: 10 Jun 2016
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| Posted: Sat Jul 09, 2016 3:42 pm Post subject: |
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We like to rule ourselves in Britain not to be told what to do from Brussels. All the poles will have to get visas sooner or later to stay in the UK and run their businesses. Brits might have to get visas for eu jobs again. who knows what will happen. At least we've still got the pound.  |
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bucheon bum
Joined: 16 Jan 2003
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| Posted: Sun Jul 10, 2016 11:00 am Post subject: |
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| bigverne wrote: |
| The problem in the UK and the US are fake-conservative parties like the Republicans and the Tories. They are completely bought by special interests, but still manage to sucker in voters come election time with overtures about controlling immigration or 'taking power back from Brussels.' The Tories never had any intention of limiting immigration or leaving the EU, but due to the collapse of the Liberal Democrats, had no excuse to prevent holding a referendum, which they lost. With Labour losing their white working class base and becoming the party of ethnic minorities and the ethnomasocist, Guardian-reading left, there is a huge chasm for an economically populist, anti-mass immigration party. Unfortunately, UKIP currently contains too many wet Tories and Thatcherites to appeal to working-class whites. |
Yup, pretty much, although it seems some conservatives in the USA are finally realizing it.
Just wondering: what are wet Tories? |
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bigverne
Joined: 12 May 2004
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| Posted: Sun Jul 10, 2016 5:21 pm Post subject: |
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| what are wet Tories? |
Similar to your RINOs - fetishize the free market, accept all the left's dogma on race, gender, and immigration, and have totally failed to conserve anything. Constantly talk about how the Conservative Party needs to change its 'tone' to attract more women, gays, minorities etc. The 'cuckservative' tag is quite appropriate. |
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Rteacher
Joined: 23 May 2005
Location: Western MA, USA
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| Posted: Sun Jul 10, 2016 8:51 pm Post subject: |
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| Jews seem to be among the most liberal and the most conservative people on earth. The best Jews become non-sectarian seekers of transcendental truth (i.e. Hare Krishna devotees ...) David Cameron, being a tad Jewish and a nice guy, recently expressed his appreciation for Krishna consciousness ...https://www.youtube.com/watch?list=PL3mtxwuJqZM1xh2KeNgplffD8PkZ13ywF&v=o0eUJuf3vKE |
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Kuros
Joined: 27 Apr 2004
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| Posted: Fri Nov 11, 2016 10:16 pm Post subject: Brexit - Court says Parliament must decide |
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http://www.theatlantic.com/international/archive/2016/11/brexit-high-court/506384/
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The U.K. High Court’s ruling Thursday that the government does not have the authority to invoke Article 50 of the Lisbon Treaty—the formal mechanism that would begin negotiations for the country’s departure from the European Union—is a blow to Prime Minister Theresa May. The ruling, which the government says it will appeal to the Supreme Court, contends that doing so without seeking parliamentary approval, which May had argued was within her power, would effectively erode parliament’s sovereignty, which is enshrined in U.K. law. In other words: U.K. lawmakers must vote on whether to invoke Article 50. |
Apparently, parliament is sovereign and foreign policy by referendum is illegitimate. As with everything else, this decision will be controversial and will be appealed. |
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Kuros
Joined: 27 Apr 2004
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