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[Demophobe]

The Story:

http://news.com.com/Security+hole+found+in+Mozilla+browser/2100-1002_3-5262676.html?tag=nefd.top

The Patch:

http://www.mozilla.org/security/shell.html

[Gollum]

I tried those browsers, and liked them, but there are flaws with some of the java stuff I try to run on some pages, and the killer... no dynamic fonts!!!

The Korean looks like crap, therefore the programs are virtually worthless to me. Hope they upgrade that.

[the saint]

Errmmmm nope absolutely not.

One great example is a few pages on the Sogang course for which Mozilla renders very nice Korean fonts but which IE6 screws up into garbage no matter what encodings I use.

Perhaps it's been a while Gollum...

[Gollum]

Try these sites and tell me what you think of these fonts:

www.enuri.com
www.naver.com

Those are just a few.

Hey, if you can suggest a way to make \'em better, then please let me know. And if you can suggest a way to get all of the windows to work in Enuri, then more power to you. Please share.

Otherwise, for all it\'s worth, I\'m sticking with IE. Believe me, if it worked well enough, I\'d DEFINATELY switch from IE.

[Dalton]

Maybe I'm missing something here but I had no problem viiwing either of those sites with firefox 0.91

I haven't had any problems with firefox since I installed it about two weeks ago. I don't have flash installed. Maybe that's why?

I'd like to try Opera if I see a cracked version around. I don't want to buy it without trying it. I might try their ad supported free version if it still works after adaware and spybot runs. Anyway I'm not a sales man, I'm just looking for alternatives that work. I may yet put linux on one of my machines. Just because.

[Gollum]

For the most part, the sites come up. On Enuri, for example, the tabs near the bottom 2/3 of the page don\'t show up. Bring it up in IE, then Firefox or Mozilla and compare. You\'ll find what doesn\'t work.

But the BIG problem, in my mind, is the crazy font look on the Korean text. Can you actually read that????

Horrible.

[Dalton]

Sorry but I don't know what you're talking about. I have no problems with korean fonts on firefox. My IE is so slow by comparison that I just don't bother with it anymore. I'm thinking of dl'ing a firefox extension that emulates IE or folls sites that want IE into thinking it is IE. Maybe that is related to the display problem you're having. The sites want IE and don't load on firefox. Check your preferences settings too. You can deselect Java progs altering pages you view. Go here-> Tools- Options- Web Features- Advanced.

[oneiros]

[Dalton]

These browsers may seem obscure compared to the hold MS has but they do have big followings. Firefox was the winner of the 'do not use IE' hype with about 200,000 dls a day. Don't be bs'd by the magnitude of IE's market share into thinking it is some kind of paradigm. They used their OS dominance to get it there not product quality.

Rivals Nibble At Microsoft's IE-BBC report

In other words Java and Eastern Asian language scripts are not new. These alternate internet access programs can handle them. Mozilla is Netscape and Firefox. Can Netscape handle Java and EA Scripts? Netscape was THE browser until MS gave theirs away for free.

Check your preferences or options thoroughly. Go to their sites and see what they have to say. Check your OS settings. Honestly I've tried all three this week and had no problems. I want to try Opera next and maybe some others out there. So far IMHO firefox is the fastest, simplest (to use and dl) and closest to IE's 'look and feel'.

[the saint]

I had no problems viewing those fonts and I'm on Firefox 0.9.1

I've got Autodetect set to Korean obviously. What I did have a problem with was layout and I have to say that this site was very rare in this regard.

When it comes to layout, I'm aware that people are usually scripting for IE and occasionally nod in the direction of Netscape but don't usually bother checking anything in Opera or Mozilla. IMO, formatting problems are not going to case me to steer away from Mozilla but rather adopt it more. I have a website and I want to know who's using what. If a significant number of people were using Mozilla, I'd be scripting support for them.

[Industrial Strength]

Really like Mozilla after switching from IE, but it seems to have some problems with a few Korean sites I visit. It displays Hangul with no problems, but menus are sometimes missing.
The worse thing is that at http://english.barota.com/ the boxes for logging in won't display. I have to use IE for that.
Any ideas how to get the login boxes to display and how to make all the menus at the sites display?
Thanks,
IS

[Demophobe]

Unfortunately, many sites are made with IE in mind, and they only conform to the IE specs. Other browsers won't display the page properly.

There isn't anything you can do on your end to change this, it's up to the site.

The power of MS is strong. Personally, I have found very few pages that won't load properly, and the ones that won't, I send them a letter and just don't go there until they change their spec.

A personal boycott.

[Gollum]

Don't think I'm trying to trash Firefox (I am almost as anti-microsoft as they come).

My problem is still those fonts. Maybe it's a setting of mine?? I keep getting these weird and fat little Korean fonts that I can barely read. I've tried auto-detect, changing font names, changing sizes, etc. Changing to Korean Joob (or something like that) I think makes the fonts more "normal" looking, but then I get some funny characters that cause me to miss some of the intormation.

Also, I often go to sites on cyworld, and my student's pages won't work for me. I can't click around, and many of the java links won't work.

Personally, I feel Firefox is usable about 40% of the time in my world.

[Dalton]

You're a thread killer Derek/Gollum.
Your problems seem to be yours alone.
That suggests you havn't read the instructions.
It's that simple.
Firefox has downloadable options called extensions. They tell you about them on their download page. One of them allows you to click a button and voila! the site you are trying to view thinks you have Internet Explorer.
Other options also stated on their download site tell you all about firefox and java.
Read the instructions or I'll kill you .
Stop asking us for them.
If I sound harsh I apologize but it must be clear at this point that only you have these problems thus it's a safe assumption that you didn't read the instructions. If you don't understand the instructions then post again. Everyone will be more than happy to help you out.

Another choice is to go back to IE. They claim to have patched it.

If i'm dead wrong I'll apologize now. But My instincts tell me otherwise.

[Gollum]

WAIT... have solved the problem....

If you install it on an all-english computer, you get the crappy fonts.

The Korean OS's seem to put up better fonts.

Still sticking with IE on my all-english computer though.

Oh, wait... still can't get the middle-bottom tab box to come up with Firefox on www.enuri.com. Try IE and compare.. see what you get. And oh, the cyworld sites still don't work.