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alonzo9772
Joined: 07 Nov 2016
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 Posted: Thu Nov 24, 2016 5:32 pm Post subject: Are all recruiting agencies basically the same? |
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I am an ESL noob who is looking for my first hagwon job. Through the job posting page in this website, I kind of just contacted one of the first recruiting agencies that I saw, Joe from ESL Korea. He was somewhat friendly during the Skype interview. However, his organization seemed kind of sloppy afterwords. For the apostille instructions, he sent me an email with dead links. After I informed him of this, he kind of dismissed it and replied, "Just send it over to your Secretary of State."
Do all recruiting agencies have a similar list of open ESL jobs? I hear that Korvia is the most well organized recruiting agency, but that would mean for me to have to do another Skype interview and go through and answer the same questions that Joe asked me.
Has anybody here ever put in applications to various recruiting agencies and noticed that each one had different job offers to give you? In my mind, I would think that recruiting agencies all offer the same services but with some very minor differences. |
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pmwhittier
Joined: 03 Nov 2011
Location: Korea
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Yes, most agencies will have the same varieties of jobs. There are a lot that will recruit for any location in the country. Same job listed with 2 recruiters happens as well. Whoever fills the job first gets paid.
The recruiters get paid by the schools to fill a position. So they work for the schools. The less time they have to spend talking to you, the better because then they can make more money from more schools. You are an English speaking piece of meat, on the way to market.
You have spent time in Korea, so you should know how most things are done here. Last minute, no prep, haphazard sloppy mess. That's how this place functions. Take care of yourself, because your recruiter won't, and your school probably won't either (although some schools do still care, they're few and far between).
Search for the thread(s) where ttom talks about recruiters as used car salesmen. |
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alonzo9772
Joined: 07 Nov 2016
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| Posted: Sat Nov 26, 2016 6:20 pm Post subject: |
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| pmwhittier wrote: |
The recruiters get paid by the schools to fill a position. So they work for the schools. The less time they have to spend talking to you, the better because then they can make more money from more schools. You are an English speaking piece of meat, on the way to market.
You have spent time in Korea, so you should know how most things are done here. Last minute, no prep, haphazard sloppy mess. That's how this place functions. Take care of yourself, because your recruiter won't, and your school probably won't either (although some schools do still care, they're few and far between). |
I am at peace with the fact that all I am in the education field of Korea is just a foreigner for the people to look at and ask questions to. I already went through this same process when I was an exchange student in Yonsei last year. I was part of a unique exchange program where I got paid 3 million won for the semester and a free dorm room. My job was to basically be the American for the Korean students around me to speak to.
As long as I get what I signed up for with the ESL job: more than 2 million won salary per month, a free apartment, and a free airplane ride. I am fine with the fact that my job is to help other people earn money. That is just what the ESL field is in a nutshell. |
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PRagic
Joined: 24 Feb 2006
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| Posted: Sun Nov 27, 2016 6:59 pm Post subject: |
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| Well, no, that is what the ESL hagwon teaching gig is like in a nut shell. TESOL/TEFL is a wide open field with a lot of professionals teaching ESL, teaching future teachers, doing research, and presenting their ideas at conferences. You're only limited by your own goals and ambitions. |
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The Doctor
Joined: 22 Nov 2016
Location: Somewhere in time and space
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| Posted: Mon Nov 28, 2016 7:13 am Post subject: |
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| PRagic wrote: |
| Well, no, that is what the ESL hagwon teaching gig is like in a nut shell. TESOL/TEFL is a wide open field with a lot of professionals teaching ESL, teaching future teachers, doing research, and presenting their ideas at conferences. You're only limited by your own goals and ambitions. |
Too true....the fallacy that ESL is somehow a dead end in itself is perpetuated by this kind of reasoning. As PRagic said the LIMITS are often set by ourselves and often our own desire (or lack thereof) to improveprofessionally or even just as a human being. To the poster, do us all a favour and be more than just an Esl parrot.....do something with thebtimenyou spend in the country. |
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newchamp
Joined: 09 Mar 2013
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| I smell a sock. |
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PRagic
Joined: 24 Feb 2006
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| Don't have a sock and never have. I swear on beer. |
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andydub1981
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I dealt with Tony recently at http://jobinkorea.co.kr/esl/ and overall it was a positive experience. Actually, I ended up taking a position in another country, but I found Tony offered some good advice. He is a very good negotiator on your behalf, and he also offers some good, general interview tips.
Additionally, he invited me to a gathering for all of the new teachers that he recruited. This would be a good way to meet new people after you have arrived
I think Tony was disappointed when I didn't end up accepting the job that he had for me, but he still respected my decision. This was not the case with some other agencies that I dealt with, who acted extremely aggressive when things didn't go their way. |
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