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Russian Government Helped Trump Win Election
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Kuros



Joined: 27 Apr 2004

PostPosted: Mon Aug 28, 2017 10:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Trump pardons Arpaio. He did so outside of the DOJ's pardon process. He did so prior to sentencing or exhaustion of appellate remedies.

What could it mean? What could Trump be saying? Who is Trump's intended audience? Wink

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/08/28/us/politics/right-left-opinions-trump-pardon-joe-arpaio.html

https://www.commentarymagazine.com/politics-ideas/trump-race-arpaio-institutional-racism/
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Fox



Joined: 04 Mar 2009

PostPosted: Mon Aug 28, 2017 10:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's certainly a toxic choice. Law enforcement needs to be held to the highest standards of legal compliance, and Sheriff Arpaio seems to embody corrupt and lawless police behavior. Even the most favorable possible interpretation of the Presidents action here leaves him pardoning a sheriff who violated countless people's civil liberties and showed active disregard for the law he swore to uphold, and it only gets uglier from there.

One thing I'd be worried about is that many people may look at this issue, remember Sheriff Arapio as "that sheriff who was tough on immigration," and approve. Yet respect for immigration law can only be founded for respect upon law more generally, and the Arpaio consciously violated that law to the detriment of many citizens, so such parties approving of his pardon would be contradicting themselves.
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Rteacher



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PostPosted: Tue Sep 19, 2017 7:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Committee to Investigate Russia launches new website to keep track of all things related to Russian interference in U.S. elections/institutions ... https://investigaterussia.org/

http://variety.com/2017/politics/news/rob-reiner-david-frum-committee-to-investigate-russia-1202563293/
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Rteacher



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PostPosted: Tue Oct 31, 2017 8:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

So, you don't think Russian influence could have played a decisive role in the last U.S. Presidential election? ... https://www.snopes.com/2017/10/31/social-media-russia-election/
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geldedgoat



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PostPosted: Wed Nov 01, 2017 8:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Rteacher wrote:
So, you don't think Russian influence could have played a decisive role in the last U.S. Presidential election? ... https://www.snopes.com/2017/10/31/social-media-russia-election/

Have you seen the ads?
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Rteacher



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PostPosted: Tue Nov 07, 2017 8:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well, the Satan ad probably played well to Trump's uneducated evangelical base , and "Killary Rotten Clinton" probably appealed to the psycho-killer component of his base, and the "Buff Bernie" ads probably were titillating to closet gay GOP right-wingers...
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Kuros



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PostPosted: Wed Nov 15, 2017 8:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well, Assange certainly conspired with Trump.

https://theintercept.com/2017/11/15/wikileaks-julian-assange-donald-trump-jr-hillary-clinton/

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For Brown, and others who have been critical of Assange for using the platform of WikiLeaks to fight his own political and personal battles, his secret communication with the Trump campaign was damning because it revealed that he had been functioning more like a freelance political operative, doling out strategy and advice, than a journalist interested in obtaining and publishing information, concerned only with its accuracy.
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Rteacher



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PostPosted: Sat Dec 23, 2017 6:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

From a (scholarly) Biblical perspective, I think a case can be made that Trump is the Antichrist, described as "the king of the North", "the lawless one", and "the man of sin" ... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antichrist
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CentralCali



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PostPosted: Sat Dec 23, 2017 7:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I like it, but you are giving far too much credit to Trump. In reality, he is just an incompetent, stupid, bigoted ignoramus. That's all he is, nothing more.
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tophatcat



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PostPosted: Sat Dec 23, 2017 11:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

US News

Stock Market is Up

GDP up to near 4%

Unemployment Down

Tax Cut that will help Lower Middle Class, Middle Class, and Every One

Jobs coming back

Businesses investing back into the economy

Large Corps, such as AT&T giving bonuses to 200,000 employes

Trump is MAGA

I love my President.

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PostPosted: Mon Dec 25, 2017 10:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Most of the American public - including most registered Republicans - understand that the the new tax plan will benefit relatively very few people at the expense of the middle class, retired and poor ... https://www.forbes.com/sites/johnwasik/2017/11/29/how-the-gop-tax-plan-scrooges-middle-class-retired-and-poor/#47936e16c1ee

Moreover, fewer people are invested in the stock market now than was the case a decade ago ... https://www.npr.org/2017/03/01/517975766/while-trump-touts-stock-market-many-americans-left-out-of-the-conversation

And only materialistic suckers would pay $45.00 for a MAGA hat with "Merry Christmas" designs on it ... http://www.newsweek.com/trump-selling-christmas-maga-hats-and-theyre-double-price-717444
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tophatcat



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PostPosted: Mon Dec 25, 2017 10:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Cherry picking a few leftist stories; aka, FAKE NEWS ^^

It's the same as the FAKE NEWS that Republicans wouldn't support Trump.


Most Republicans know this tax cut will benefit the middle class. It will benefit my friends.

I'm still laughing at the sore losers!

MAGA
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Kuros



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PostPosted: Tue Dec 26, 2017 1:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

An indictment of Jared Kushner appears imminent.

https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2017/12/bannon-for-president-trump-kushner-ivanka

Steve Bannon wrote:
“The railhead of all bad decisions is the same railhead: Javanka.”

“He’s taking meetings with Russians to get additional stuff. This tells you everything about Jared,”

“They were looking for the picture of Hillary Clinton taking the bag of cash from Putin. That’s his maturity level.”


It will be slightly more difficult for the MAGA-heads to array the old #FAKENEWS against Steve Bannon.

https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/the-goals-of-the-gops-anti-mueller-campaign-and-their-likelihood-for-success/

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All of these anti-Mueller moves fit a strategy of trying to publicly browbeat the special counsel to make him leery of bringing forward a major indictment. Mueller now knows, if he did not already, that indicting Kushner is likely to bring the full force of America’s conservative movement against him.

But I doubt that Mueller, with his long record in top jobs (he was the FBI director on 9/11), would be intimidated by Trump’s team. So I see this goal as one that is also unlikely to succeed.

. . .

Trying to turn Republicans against the investigation — American politics was polarized during the 1970s and 1990s, but there is evidence that the polarization and division between the two parties has grown much larger. So if Trump and his allies are aiming to get the vast majority of Republicans to oppose Mueller’s probe and question its findings, that seems to be a realistic goal.

There is already evidence that anti-Mueller sentiment is taking hold in the GOP. A Pew Research Center poll conducted in late November and early December (so before the latest round of Mueller-bashing) found that about half of Republicans doubted the special counsel would conduct a fair investigation, compared to about a third of the public overall. (Quinnipiac also showed about half of Republicans with concerns about the fairness of the Mueller probe.)

If this strategy succeeds, it could yield huge dividends, since ultimately the impeachment and removal from office of a president is a political process. In the short term, redefining support for Mueller as a liberal stance could prevent congressional Republicans eager to please their bases from defending or protecting the special counsel. So far, various bills to keep Trump from firing Mueller have gone nowhere in Congress, suggesting that this type of legislation has already been successfully painted as anti-Republican. In the long term, if Democrats gain control of the House, Senate, or both, Mueller and his investigation being viewed as anti-Republican could literally save Trump’s presidency. If few or no Republicans support a push for Trump’s removal, he is likely to remain in office even if he is impeached, since removal requires 67 senators and it’s unlikely Democrats will have that large a majority in the near future.


It seems more unlikely that Trump will be impeached and then convicted over anything than that he will hang on while his base forces one-third of the Senate plus one or more to find him not culpable of all wrongdoing.
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bucheon bum



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PostPosted: Tue Dec 26, 2017 7:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

tophatcat wrote:
Cherry picking a few leftist stories; aka, FAKE NEWS ^^

It's the same as the FAKE NEWS that Republicans wouldn't support Trump.


Most Republicans know this tax cut will benefit the middle class. It will benefit my friends.

I'm still laughing at the sore losers!

MAGA


The tax "reform" is basically a f-you to upper middle class people in CA, NY, NJ, and some other high income/high tax states. The GOP is going to get killed in those states next November. There are currently 14 GOP congressmen and women from California. I suspect that will drop down to perhaps 3 or 4 (Nunes, McCarthy, and maybe a couple more). Those in Orange County and San Diego- adios. At least some in NY and NJ had sense to vote against the bill, but I bet a few will also be adios in 2018. I mean why the hell vote for the GOP if they raise taxes on you?? They can't get anything else done!

Dems have a better shot at taking over the House next year than the Senate imo.
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 26, 2017 8:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Most Congressional Republicans are policy-wise worse than Trump, who will sign most anything without reading it as long as he's lavishly praised, so the main thing is that Democrats regain control of Congress in 2018 - and at this point (ten months out) it's looking good ... https://www.politico.com/story/2017/12/21/polls-show-democrats-with-sizeable-advantage-for-2018-midterms-310146
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