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Jarome_Turner
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 Posted: Sun Jul 07, 2013 3:23 pm Post subject: Finding work with an MBA |
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What kind of work is available to an MBA grad? Do most uni's prefer an MA or is any Master's sufficient? I do have 4+ years experience teaching in Korea (elementary/hagwon/some uni camps), but by the time I actually complete the MBA program, I will have been out of Korea for about 8 years.
What's the current climate like at uni's and how do you see it going in the future? |
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Paddycakes
Joined: 05 May 2003
Location: Seoul
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| Posted: Sun Jul 07, 2013 4:18 pm Post subject: |
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Wonder if you could teach business? Probably not, since I assume you have no serious corporate management experience if you're looking for a uni job in Korea.
Out of curiosity, why are you looking for work in Korea? You'll probably just wind up being an ESL teacher in a university working for 2 to 3 mill per month.
What was the point in doing the MBA?
You should have done just a cheap on-line/distance ed MA in TESOL/Linguistics if you wanted to work at a uniwon.
I'd maybe forget universities and try for corporate gigs teaching ESL to Korean business men.
The MBA might count for something more in that context. |
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dongjak
Joined: 30 Oct 2010
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| Posted: Sun Jul 07, 2013 11:32 pm Post subject: |
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| Go to the chronicle of higher education website and higher ed jobs. Also individual university websites. LOADS of universities want MBA holders to teach business classes. If you have experience in the business world that is a major plus. Inha offers 9 hours a week for over 3 million to MBA holders. You shouldn't have a problem finding a university job if that is what you are interested in. I think that a lot of universities are moving in the direction of more content based courses in English rather than just straight English classes, I think an MBA or a Law degree can get you an above average job position in Korea. |
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Paddycakes
Joined: 05 May 2003
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| Posted: Mon Jul 08, 2013 12:20 am Post subject: |
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| LOADS of universities want MBA holders to teach business classes. . |
Really?
I know higher education in Korea often has a real "Alice in Wonderland" quality to it, but it would be even more absurd then the usual absurd to allow someone who has never worked in business to teach MBA content.
If I was a student and I signed up for an expensive MBA, I'd be pretty upset if the instructor's only experience was working as English instructor.
You'd generally expect a guy who has years of solid upper level management experience in his field.
And, no, head ESL teacher at Toss English or Kim's university doesn't count. |
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edwardcatflap
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| Posted: Mon Jul 08, 2013 12:29 am Post subject: |
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dongjak wrote:
LOADS of universities want MBA holders to teach business classes. .
Really?
I know higher education in Korea often has a real "Alice in Wonderland" quality to it, but it would be even more absurd then the usual absurd to allow someone who has never worked in business to teach MBA content.
If I was a student and I signed up for an expensive MBA, I'd be pretty upset if the instructor's only experience was working as English instructor.
You'd generally expect a guy who has years of solid upper level management experience in his field.
And, no, head ESL teacher at Toss English or Kim's university doesn't count. |
I don't see why this would be a problem if they were being taught business English not business. |
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Paddycakes
Joined: 05 May 2003
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| Posted: Mon Jul 08, 2013 12:52 am Post subject: |
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Business English, sure, not a problem.
Business content with no experience... in anywhere other than Korea, that might be a problem. |
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ttompatz
Joined: 05 Sep 2005
Location: Kwangju, South Korea
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| Posted: Mon Jul 08, 2013 1:00 am Post subject: |
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| Paddycakes wrote: |
| dongjak wrote: |
| LOADS of universities want MBA holders to teach business classes. . |
Really?
I know higher education in Korea often has a real "Alice in Wonderland" quality to it, but it would be even more absurd then the usual absurd to allow someone who has never worked in business to teach MBA content.
If I was a student and I signed up for an expensive MBA, I'd be pretty upset if the instructor's only experience was working as English instructor.
You'd generally expect a guy who has years of solid upper level management experience in his field.
And, no, head ESL teacher at Toss English or Kim's university doesn't count. |
Actually, MBAs are often used to teach undergrad courses in the "international" business programs at a number of universities.
There are lots of jobs all over Asia teaching business/business related classes if you have an MBA.
If you have an MBA and executive experience then write your own ticket and working a uni job as a guest lecturer (E1) wouldn't be high on my list.
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Paddycakes
Joined: 05 May 2003
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| Posted: Mon Jul 08, 2013 1:35 am Post subject: |
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| ttompatz wrote: |
Actually, MBAs are often used to teach undergrad courses in the "international" business programs at a number of universities.
There are lots of jobs all over Asia teaching business/business related classes if you have an MBA. |
And that's the problem. People without experience should not be teaching in applied fields like business.
It's like if you went to dental school and the teacher never worked as a real dentist.
But in Wild West world of higher education in Korea, I guess anything goes.
Still, I hope the OP can get a relevant job with his MBA.
It's always sad when you see MBAs and people with real professional degrees working as English instructors at a university.
On the one hand you think there is something wrong them and they just couldn't "fit in" back home in a work place environment, which is not uncommon.
But on the other hand you realize the job market back home isn't that great either. |
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dongjak
Joined: 30 Oct 2010
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| Posted: Mon Jul 08, 2013 1:49 am Post subject: |
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| Paddycakes wrote: |
| dongjak wrote: |
| LOADS of universities want MBA holders to teach business classes. . |
Really?
I know higher education in Korea often has a real "Alice in Wonderland" quality to it, but it would be even more absurd then the usual absurd to allow someone who has never worked in business to teach MBA content.
If I was a student and I signed up for an expensive MBA, I'd be pretty upset if the instructor's only experience was working as English instructor.
You'd generally expect a guy who has years of solid upper level management experience in his field.
And, no, head ESL teacher at Toss English or Kim's university doesn't count. |
I never said they wanted them to teach MBA courses. Undergraduate business courses and business English classes. There are two American Lawyers at my university and they teach law courses to undergraduates. |
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Paddycakes
Joined: 05 May 2003
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| Posted: Mon Jul 08, 2013 6:39 am Post subject: |
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From what I gather, under graduate business courses and MBA course content are extremely similar.
Regardless, anyone teaching an 'applied' subject should have real-world experience to back it up... at least in my view.
I'd be interested to know how much actual legal experience the lawyers teaching in Korea have...
Are these guys with real legal backgrounds and real experience? Or are these guys fresh out of law school who found they couldn't get jobs because new lawyers are a dime a dozen back in the States?
Perhaps, as a last resort, 'Wall Street Institute' will take our MBA friend. |
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