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MINIMUM TIME TO QUIT A HAKWAN. IS 2 MONTHS LONG ENOUGH?

 
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jim_we



Joined: 06 May 2004
Location: Korea

PostPosted: Mon Jul 12, 2004 12:11 am    Post subject: MINIMUM TIME TO QUIT A HAKWAN. IS 2 MONTHS LONG ENOUGH? Reply with quote

What are the laws on changing employment now. It seems to change all the time. Is there a minimum amount of time you have to work before escaping like the hellhole hakwan I'm in now? I've been here 2 months and am desperate to get out.

It's in the contract that if I give 1 month and they take 1/3 my pay, I can escape. Does anyone know the current law?
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syclick



Joined: 23 Mar 2003
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Mon Jul 12, 2004 2:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well, you've got to give them advance notice that you're leaving, which is usually written into your contract. The amount of time is usually 1-2 months. However, that's not to say that your boss will be too happy about it.

I don't think there's a legal minimum per se, but I could be very wrong about that.
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matthews_world



Joined: 15 Feb 2003

PostPosted: Mon Jul 12, 2004 3:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

You should give the ligitimate notice.

If you flee, i.e. the midnight run, you won't be able to come back to Korea until the original contract ends, 9 months from now.

Be straight forward. Give 'em time to find a replacement. That's best for both parties.

I heard something about a 4-month rule about quitting a hagwon. Someone got more info on that?



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inkoreaforgood



Joined: 15 Dec 2003
Location: Inchon

PostPosted: Mon Jul 12, 2004 3:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Legally, I don't really think there is any advance notice required. However, usually a month notice is given in most cases. Personally, I think it depends alot on your boss, and your relationship with them. But, in any case, whenever you choose to leave a school, it's going to be difficult. The boss feels like you're not living up to your end of the deal, and often expresses it.
At the last hakwon I worked at, before I signed the contract I told the boss that I wanted to leave after 5 months. He said okay, but not before saying that I should take a slight paycut. 3 months in, he seems to think that I will stick around and finish the whole year. Everyone else at the school knows I have a much better job lined up, and that I really want to leave. He stops talking to me for the last 2 months I'm there, except for the occasional hello. Before that, he seemed like a decent guy, that's why I signed a contract with him. But, he ended up being the typical Older Korean male bossman. I thought I was going to have to get tough with him, call in the tax dept. or something. But he came through in the end, even said that I should come and visit sometime, and that I had done a good job Shocked Shocked !!
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Michelle



Joined: 18 May 2003

PostPosted: Mon Jul 12, 2004 5:03 am    Post subject: Don't do it! Reply with quote

matthews_world wrote:
You should give the ligitimate notice.

If you flee, i.e. the midnight run, you won't be able to come back to Korea until the original contract ends, 9 months from now.

Be straight forward. Give 'em time to find a replacement. That's best for both parties.

I heard something about a 4-month rule about quitting a hagwon. Someone got more info on that?



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A warning,

Don't do this unless you are willing to give them an arbitrary date, and then make up your own mind.

Your school will not let you go with the months pay unless they are very good.

Wanting to leave can be a problem for them (you wouldn't know it from the way they treat ESL teachers)

They have made an investment in you, recruiters fee and airfare.

If you give them a date they will keep your last pay or at the very least they will demand this from you or try to keep you.

I say make sure you give them a bung date so you get paid, give them chance to fins a teacher then skip off.

If you tell them 'I will work until you find another teacher' they will coincidentally not find one for a long time.

A lot of people have problems with leaving. The school will want a set date to get another teacher in by, not 'I will work until you get one."

Unfortunately a lot of people, trying to be kind by giving the school a date have this abused by the school.

PS. After worling 6 months I was willing to be fair and pay the school back some money for expenses, however they nastily fired me early and just kept my pay, about 2 million.

Maybe if you trust them. That is why so many people do 'midnight runs'.

It is not that they want to leave the school in the lurch, they sometimes feel they have no choice..

PS. You might want to wait until you finish the contract to come back. D'oh.

The only way to work in Korea again straight away (through immigration) is to get fired (not suggested) or to have an agreement to finish with the school (they have to tell immigration, or to have a letter of contract release.
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oneiros



Joined: 19 Aug 2003
Location: Villa Straylight

PostPosted: Mon Jul 12, 2004 5:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

If I read the OP correctly, he's not asking about notice period.l

He's asking whether there's a minimum length of time you need to have worked at a school if you want to be released and allowed by immigration to get a new visa.

ie. If I work at a school for two months, give my notice, and get my LOR, will immigration still say, "Sorry. You can't have a new visa. You only worked at this place for three months. You have to have worked X months before you can leave a contract."


(I don't know the answer to this. Sorry.)
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sadsac



Joined: 22 Dec 2003
Location: Gwangwang

PostPosted: Mon Jul 12, 2004 6:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

There is no minimum requirement regarding how long you work there. You may have to repay an airfare if less than six months, it will depend on your contract. Unless there is a specific stipulation within your contract, you must give 30 days notice. They won't be happy but you will have fulfilled any legal requirements regarding notice. Smile
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