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what will Korea be like/hope it will be like, in 20 years?
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rapier



Joined: 16 Feb 2003

PostPosted: Tue Jul 20, 2004 7:28 am    Post subject: what will Korea be like/hope it will be like, in 20 years? Reply with quote

I have hopes that Korea will change along certain lines in the years to come- lets say 20 years:-

1)ENVIRONMENTAL awareness: I sincerely hope Korea implements tough laws to control the levels of air pollution. i hope that the green Korea and other movements grow rapidly in strength, and Koreans preserve their environmentally sensitive areas instead of sacrificing them to more building projects and industry. I want to see peoples awareness of nature and the value of wildlife, animals, and the environment take a giant leap forward!
2)RACISM: I hope Koreans will learn to see people of other nationalities and cultures as not simply "waegooks", but as interesting and diverse additions to the Korean identity. Interracial marriage should no longer be frowned upon, and foreigners should look forwars to equal rights and a wider spectrum of real employment opportunities.
3)CULTURE: I hope to see a vast improvement in the status of women, equal employment opportunities, equal status under the law, and greater personal freedom. I want to see the outdated traditional ideas and stranglehold exerted by the family and parental influence dissapear, in favor of freedom of choice for the individual.

REALITY:
1) I expect Korea to become an endless urban conurbation from one end to the next, with every coastal area reclaimed, ever river banked up, and only a few token wild areas to remain as overcrowded tourist areas.
2) I expect Korean nationalism and xenophobia to accelerate up to, and for decades after reunification and the departure of the American military presence.
3)I do see the culture changeing as regards women, but they will cling to their hanboks for as long as possible, and their related elaborate and complex cultural customs.

What do you envision? what do you hope for?
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sadsac



Joined: 22 Dec 2003
Location: Gwangwang

PostPosted: Tue Jul 20, 2004 7:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

It will be the same as it is now. They will just be finding someone else to blame for all their woes, as the US will have pulled out and left them to it. That could be the reality, I hope not.

I would love to see them educate the children on environmental issues and encourage the populace to be litter aware and have campaigns like the "Clean up Australia Day". Learn to be more accepting of differences within people and cultures, understand that just because it's Korean. it's not always the best. Build on their strengths. Instill some integrity into the nation, its lawmakers and upholders. It is a country with potential, step back and recognise it.

Only time will tell. I am hopeful that they will get it right. Smile
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jajdude



Joined: 18 Jan 2003

PostPosted: Wed Jul 21, 2004 4:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bet you $100 it will not be reunified. In 20 years that $100 should be worth about $10.

The place outwardly changes fast but do people's thinking change so easily? I think that will take longer.

Bet there will be more English though, maybe Chinese too.
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Wishmaster



Joined: 06 Feb 2003

PostPosted: Wed Jul 21, 2004 5:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nah, Korea ain't gonna change. I expect to see the environment completely devastated in about 20 years. The racism(chronic racism) will still exist because Koreans have this strange feeling of superiority...even though they continually get their asses handed to them. They are a defeated people. The goal should be to contain them within the peninsula...don't want to see them go to other countries and try to invoke Korea there. Need some tough love on them.
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ohahakehte



Joined: 24 Aug 2003
Location: The State of Denial

PostPosted: Wed Jul 21, 2004 5:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

i totally agree about the environment. preserving the environment is just not the direction the world's leading economies are headed in, including korea.

i think the enfuriating and depressing reality is that if korea wants to continue to be on the map economically as a major east asian economy it will have to steamroll what remains of its "environment." nations like canada, the US, japan, etc didnt get rich by "preserving" their old growth forests and keeping their streams clean. its simply the price you hafta pay to get into, and remain in the Strong Economies Club. im not saying its right, but its how our apocalyptic economic structure functions.
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harri2002



Joined: 17 Jul 2003
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 22, 2004 4:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Very Happy i hope to see none of the koreans eating dogs in twenty years. i wish the foreigners living in korea now would stop condoning such bad practices by being silent observers. i hope to see establishment of influential animal rights groups in korea.
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Gord



Joined: 25 Feb 2003

PostPosted: Thu Jul 22, 2004 5:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

harri2002 wrote:
i wish the foreigners living in korea now would stop condoning such bad practices by being silent observers.


Perhaps we aren't actually condoning it because we don't feel it's an actual bad practice any more than we would disagree with eating pigs (which also have been shown to be bright animals).
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Saxiif



Joined: 15 May 2003
Location: Seongnam

PostPosted: Thu Jul 22, 2004 7:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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1) I expect Korea to become an endless urban conurbation from one end to the next, with every coastal area reclaimed, ever river banked up, and only a few token wild areas to remain as overcrowded tourist areas.

Nah, Korea's got one of the lowest birth rates in the world and not much immigration. Pretty soon the old people who make up most of the rural population will start dying and their grandkids will keep on moving to the city and a lot of Korea's rural farming villages will turn into ghost towns. Already the more rural of Korea's provinces are dropping in population. Pretty soon there'll be places in Korea like Aroostook country back home in Maine, where population dropped 10% between two censuss. Well that's unless there's reunification happens and half of North Korea moves south, but most of the poor bastards will probably end up in ghettos encircling all the big cities and the countryside of everywhere in Korea will continue emptying out.

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2) I expect Korean nationalism and xenophobia to accelerate up to, and for decades after reunification and the departure of the American military presence.

Well reunification will throw a big monkey wrench in Korean nationalism. It'll be harder to idealize the northerners as your brothers who are exactly like you when you have to live next to them. It will become obvious to at least some SKoreans that they have more in common with many foreigners than with northerners.

Also I'm teaching kids whose parents are really really rich and a lot of them have money to travel a lot and I'm being shocked and overjoyed when when Japan gets mentioned there are actually some kids who defend Japan when kids say its a dirty pit of evil that deserves to be nuked. Shocked

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i wish the foreigners living in korea now would stop condoning such bad practices by being silent observers.

God either stop whining about dog-eating or become a vegetarian, (I think vegetarianism is great, but refusing to eat one kind of meat is just hypocritical) how is dog that different from any other meat? The only thing wrong with it is when they make boshintang with lots of dog skin to pick out Mad
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Eazy_E



Joined: 30 Oct 2003
Location: British Columbia, Canada

PostPosted: Thu Jul 22, 2004 7:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Despite the deep flaws in English education that we're all aware of, I expect Korea to be a much more proficient country in terms of English ability in another 20 years. It seems like everyone in Korea either knows English or wants to learn it, and if they fork over enough cash to us then sooner or later they'll get better at it. When that does happen, there will be less jobs for us, but God willing I won't need a teaching job here then. And it will be even easier for foreigners to get by without knowing any Korean... excellent. Very Happy
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stevie rotten



Joined: 31 Jan 2003

PostPosted: Thu Jul 22, 2004 8:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you want to see what kind of society Korean culture creates if left on it's own just look north. I think that's what's in store for SK.
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rapier



Joined: 16 Feb 2003

PostPosted: Thu Jul 22, 2004 8:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

stevie rotten wrote:
If you want to see what kind of society Korean culture creates if left on it's own just look north. I think that's what's in store for SK.

yeah, their culture is quite undemocratic , corrupt and paternalistic by nature. Its only western influence that prevents it degenerating into its natural state.
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Barking Mad Lord Snapcase



Joined: 04 Nov 2003

PostPosted: Thu Jul 22, 2004 9:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Saxiif wrote:
(I think vegetarianism is great, but refusing to eat one kind of meat is just hypocritical)


No, telling OTHERS to refuse any kind of meat is hypocritical. Refusing to eat one kind of meat out of personal preference is perfectly acceptable. There are entire religions and cultures that "refuse to eat one kind of meat". If you find the "don't eat dog/pork/any meat" crowd annoying (and I can understand why), then how do you think you sound to the quiet abstainers when you call them hypocrites?
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Ody



Joined: 27 Jan 2003
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 23, 2004 12:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

harri2002 wrote:
Very Happy i hope to see none of the koreans eating dogs in twenty years. i wish the foreigners living in korea now would stop condoning such bad practices by being silent observers. i hope to see establishment of influential animal rights groups in korea.

Rolling Eyes
this statement presupposes that westerners living here don't eat dog too.
anyway, it already has become taboo, as many (Koreans) who eat it will not admit it openly.
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candu



Joined: 16 Jan 2003

PostPosted: Fri Jul 23, 2004 12:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I fear that most Koreans will remain unhappy. I hope this won't be the case, but that is my hunch...
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nev



Joined: 04 Jan 2004
Location: ch7t

PostPosted: Fri Jul 23, 2004 2:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

stevie rotten wrote:
If you want to see what kind of society Korean culture creates if left on it's own just look north. I think that's what's in store for SK.


North Korea hardly turned out the way because it was left alone. Rather, the Soviets tampered with its leadership and left it with an ideology that it still looks to be a long way from shaking off.

South Korea, on the other hand, has shaped itself, just with a few strong influences on the way (Japan and th US).
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