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gotte00
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 Posted: Wed Feb 04, 2004 6:24 pm Post subject: online master's/certificate programs |
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Does anyone know of any quality online programs to obtain either a master's or certificate in ESL? any information would be appreciated.
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matthews_world
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rok_the-boat
Joined: 24 Jan 2004
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| Posted: Thu Feb 05, 2004 3:33 am Post subject: USQ |
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I did the USQ Applied Linguistics course and know several others who went the same, and other, routes. USQ have good support materials and have been in the on-line education game for longer than most. It is also much cheaper than many other schools - exchange rates rule OK. I have heard some negative stories form some of the so-called 'better schools' that have newer programs, but some good stories too, of course. At the end of the day, no matter which course you do we all end up with pretty similar reading lists - meaning - you get out of it what you put in. I know one guy who got his USQ MA accredited to a USA university and is now doing a Ph.D. in the US.
I was going to do the Birmingham course but they told me I'd have to pay foreigner fees (double cost) as I had been out of the country more than three years (I'm a Brit). I was really angry and so went for USQ - they had also accepted me. Also, not sure, but if I ever decide to emigrate down under, the USQ MA deal might offer me a few more points on their immigration test.
Anway, I got a lot out of USQ. It is not going to get you much cred in Korea though. At best, an extra 10 green ones a month. For me, I like to think I am a better teacher with more ideas of the how and why of what I am doing. And as for on-line education being thought inferior -I'd say today that is generally the case but in the future attitudes will change as more and more universities offer such courses. It is the way of the future - it empowers people to make the most of their time (working and studying together). Think! How much more would it cost if you studied on campus with no job! Especialy if you have a family.
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sadsac
Joined: 22 Dec 2003
Location: Gwangwang
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| Posted: Thu Feb 05, 2004 5:23 am Post subject: |
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| The Australian unis offer some excellent stuff. As stated by the previous poster USQ, UNE are offering a Masters in Linguistics which you can finish in 13 months. Look around there is plenty out there. |
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Scott in HK
Joined: 15 Jan 2003
Location: now in Incheon..haven't changed my name yet
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| the only thing to note about aussie unis right now is how strong the aussie dollar is....my tuition at deakin has really jumped from last year due to a strong aussie dollar now and a weak one then....make sure you do a little converting before you enroll and watch the exchange rates....i am putting off paying my fees this month in the hopes the dollar may drop...not likely but i thought i wait anyway |
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susmin
Joined: 04 May 2003
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| Posted: Thu Feb 05, 2004 7:39 am Post subject: ESOL masters |
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Hi,
I am getting my masters degree in ESOL at Nova Southeastern University. It is a university in Miami and they have a large number of online classes. Classes are 8 weeks long. I am enjoying it. PM me if you want more info. |
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TECO
Joined: 20 Jan 2003
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| Posted: Thu Feb 05, 2004 8:56 am Post subject: |
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USQ M.A. = $7,000 Cdn.
1 Year Full Time
No dissertation required (but offered)
Surrey, Leicester, Birmingham M.A. = $20,000 Cdn. (app.)
2 - 3 years Full Time
Dissertation requried
Like the guy says above - they're all pretty much the same in content.
Personally, I think they're a rip off for what you get (especially paying international student fees  )
If you want to learn how to teach EFL, then do a CELTA or DELTA in Thailand for about $1,200 U.S.
That'll make you a better teacher - Keep the other $18,000 Cdn in the bank.
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FierceInvalid
Joined: 16 Mar 2003
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| Posted: Fri Feb 06, 2004 8:31 am Post subject: |
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If you want to learn how to teach EFL, then do a CELTA or DELTA in Thailand for about $1,200 U.S.
That'll make you a better teacher - keep the other $18,000 Cdn in the bank. |
I've thought about doing that but a CELTA doesn't get you a uni job. The MA does. Being a better teacher is all fine and well but if I can only apply that knowledge in hogwans, where it's largely unnecessary/unappreciated, then I'll throw my money and time towards the Aussie uni MA route for sure. |
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pocariboy73
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| Posted: Sat Feb 07, 2004 4:12 am Post subject: |
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| I've thought about doing that but a CELTA doesn't get you a uni job. The MA does |
I have a CELTA and I believe the combination of that, plus a few years teaching experience, enabled me to get several offers from Universities. And, I don't have a Masters. Nevertheless, I'm seriously considering enrolling in a distance MA TESL for increased job security. |
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happy
Joined: 19 Jan 2003
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gypsyfish
Joined: 17 Jan 2003
Location: Seoul
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| Posted: Wed Feb 18, 2004 9:15 pm Post subject: |
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Save your money. I will write a reference letter and make up a nice certificate and send them to you for $199 US (half the price of the TEFL Center). The M.TESOL(Mutidisciplinary TESOL) - I'll throw that in for $600 US and you only need to write a 10,000 word dissertation for me.
What I'm saying is that the only schools that would hire you based on studying The Wonderful World of TEFL, Teacher Resources & Great Ideas!,
Smart Contract Tips for teachers, and Where & How to find TOP JOBS! (some of the topics included in the 'certificate') are not schools that you wouldn't want to work for anyway.
In Korea, you don't need certification or a Master's to get a job. I think it's a good idea to have one or the other, or, even, both. I recommend the CELTA, but there are other good certification courses out there. You will have to actually teach classes - observed - in the good ones.
By the way, the first paragraph was not serious, but don't let that stop you from sending me the money. |
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happy
Joined: 19 Jan 2003
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[quote="gypsyfish"]
You Said
"Save your money. I will write a reference letter and make up a nice certificate and send them to you for $199 US"
That would be fraud then. You also forgot to mention that this distance course covers
International teaching methods
Teacher Resources
Classroom Management
Teacher Evaluations
Lesson Plans
Understanding Verb Tenses
Smart Contract Tips for teachers
Distance learning can be a useful tool! |
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TECO
Joined: 20 Jan 2003
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| Posted: Mon Aug 09, 2004 10:42 am Post subject: |
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| I recommend the CELTA, but there are other good certification courses out there. You will have to actually teach classes - observed - in the good ones. |
Yeah, do the CELTA!
I got much more out of the CELTA than the USQ M.A. TESOL program
The USQ M.A. TESOL program is crappola. I very unorganized program with underqualified staff.
Schit, I didn't even have to do any observed teaching at USQ to get an M.A. TESOL!
Even though it's "Applied" Linguisticsl, it's still too theoretical and not really all that helpful for classroom teachers.
I would hire a CELTA holder any day over an M.A. TESOL from USQ.
Most M.A.s (and Ph.Ds) can't teach worth beans anyways!
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