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flutieflakes



Joined: 16 Mar 2003

PostPosted: Sat Aug 07, 2004 7:26 pm    Post subject: "The Koreans" Reply with quote

a book written by michael breen, an englishman..........a good read in an attempt to try and figure this place and how people think........written with a western twist i know but hits the nail on the head in many perspectives as seconded by my kyopo friend who spent his teen years here in the penninsula....................
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funplanet



Joined: 20 Jun 2003
Location: The new Bucheon!

PostPosted: Sun Aug 08, 2004 12:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

he also wrote a very good book about kim jong-il
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just because



Joined: 01 Aug 2003
Location: Changwon - 4964

PostPosted: Sun Aug 08, 2004 12:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I bought this book last week and will read it this week.

Also read that adult animation novel Korea Unmasked, good reading.
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Universalis



Joined: 17 Nov 2003
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Sun Aug 08, 2004 1:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Breen's The Koreans and Korea Unmasked are two of the best books out there for understanding Korea and its people. HIghly recommended...

Brian
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Cymro



Joined: 11 Jun 2004

PostPosted: Sun Aug 08, 2004 3:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I agree.
You really can't go wrong with it.
I think I'm right in saying an updated edition was released earlier this year.
I've read the first and would like to know if it's worth reading the updated one too?
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flutieflakes



Joined: 16 Mar 2003

PostPosted: Sun Aug 08, 2004 8:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

everything seemed to be going fine and dandy here (near equal rights for women etc.) until the damned chosun dynasty and confucian thought set in..............the one biggest thing that makes this place so "special" and holds it back.................
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chronicpride



Joined: 16 Jan 2003

PostPosted: Sun Aug 08, 2004 10:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

just because wrote:
I bought this book last week and will read it this week.

Also read that adult animation novel Korea Unmasked, good reading.


I agree. Most others are cookie-cutter and vanilla, but The Koreans and Korea Unmasked approach the subject very differently. Both must-reads.
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Seoul Skye



Joined: 28 Feb 2003

PostPosted: Thu Aug 12, 2004 8:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Both of Michael Breen's books on Korea are excellent reads. By the way, he will be a featured speaker at the Korea TESOL Int.'l Conference being held October 9-10 at Sookmyung Women's University in Seoul.

Check out http://www.kotesol.org/conference/2004/ for on-line pre-registration.
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Yaya



Joined: 25 Feb 2003
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Fri Aug 13, 2004 1:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I disagree about Breen's book The Koreans. I've gone through it and the writing is basically similar to what you'd read in a Lonely Planet or Rough Guide. Better books on Korea are by Don Oberdorfer (The Two Koreas) and Don Kirk (Korea in the IMF Era).

Korea Unmasked is a GREAT primer on Korea.
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Honeybee



Joined: 15 Jan 2004

PostPosted: Sat Aug 14, 2004 4:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Michael Breen is a bit of an enigma,

Apart from writing "the Koreans" and the Kim Jong Il book,
he is also responsible for a rather bizarre book about the cult leader Sun Myoung Moon, leader of the Moonies cult.

You can read the whole thing online...(according to amazon.com, its long out of print:
http://www.unification.org/ucbooks/earlyyears/

His Moonies book clearly shows him to be (at least at the time he wrote it) a rather devoted and completely brainwashed follower of Moon,
Not sure if he is still involved, I heard he divorced the Korean wife that Moon gave him.

A few ex-Members have suggested that Michael's time in North Korea was due to his Moon affiliation. And since Moon has been reported to have invested a ton of money in North Korea, it seems to be a reasonable conclusion to make. Its a little odd that the "following the Money" chapter on Kim Jong Il, makes no mention of Moon at all.

Thanks for the info about him appearing in October, I'd be interested in asking about him the Moonies book he wrote. it really is a great example of cult propaganda shxx.
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kylehawkins2000



Joined: 08 Apr 2003

PostPosted: Sat Aug 14, 2004 11:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

For Ya-Ya:

Do you think that The Koreans should really be compared to THe Two Koreas? They are very different. One is about the history of Korea and the other is mostly about the Korean culture and mindset.
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Yaya



Joined: 25 Feb 2003
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Mon Aug 16, 2004 4:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah, well, I should've said Oberdorfer is a better writer on Korea than Breen, rather than compare books. I've skimmed through The Koreans and I still say it's not much better than a travel guide to Korea.
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