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johnriley007
Joined: 25 Jun 2004
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 Posted: Sun Aug 22, 2004 9:22 pm Post subject: neighbor problems |
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i was just wondering if anybody had neighbors who complained about noise coming from your apartment. currently, i work in the morning and night. i bought a piano recently and try to play about an hour a day, usually between the hours of 1-3p.m. i majored in piano at university and admit that sometimes i play loudly and fast, but i think that during this time is ok. it's not like there's a huge building being built nextdoor which commences digging at 7 am on saturday or anything... 
anyway, there is this adjuma who usually knocks on my door and asks me to stop because her daughter (or grandchild) is studying.
i never play outside the hours of 1-4. do you think that is fair of her, and if not, how would you reconcile this situation? i don't want to have to sell the piano, but also i don't want to have a pissed off adjuma after me  |
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rapier
Joined: 16 Feb 2003
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| Posted: Sun Aug 22, 2004 9:49 pm Post subject: |
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Compromise (although Koreans aren't good at this). Try and arrange a time when you're both happy for you to play. If the daughter studies between 1-3, its only fair you get to practise 3-5, for example.
get a Korean co worker to call her and discuss it, if you like. |
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just because
Joined: 01 Aug 2003
Location: Changwon - 4964
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| Posted: Mon Aug 23, 2004 8:09 pm Post subject: |
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Don't worry, the daughter will be back at school soon.
She can't use this excuse again.  |
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spliff
Joined: 19 Jan 2004
Location: Khon Kaen, Thailand
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| Posted: Mon Aug 23, 2004 9:47 pm Post subject: |
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| Ha..haaa...play louder! |
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shawner88
Joined: 01 Feb 2003
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| Posted: Mon Aug 23, 2004 10:16 pm Post subject: |
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| We live in an office-tel and we have a HUGE window, so it can get hot in here (even with a/c) so we usually open the door. This creates an awesome breeze but also whatever we have on, TV or Stereo, echos through the hallways. Nobody has said a word yet. |
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jazblanc77
Joined: 22 Feb 2004
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| Posted: Mon Aug 23, 2004 10:26 pm Post subject: |
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| I'd say that time period is reasonable. Though, try playing at a different time and see what the response is. Perhaps, the problem will go away or, perhaps they will keep complaining whatever the hour is that you practice. In the latter scenario, just stop answering your door while you are playing. |
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Wangja
Joined: 17 May 2004
Location: Seoul, Yongsan
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| Posted: Mon Aug 23, 2004 11:48 pm Post subject: |
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| Most Koreans are not unhappy about piano playing, in fact they encourage it in their children: however, most Koreans who play use an acoustic mat under the piano to minimise noise transmission to and through the structure. I believe these mats are inexpensively available from the music market in Seoul. |
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chiaa
Joined: 23 Aug 2003
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| Posted: Tue Aug 24, 2004 12:24 am Post subject: |
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| Wangja wrote: |
| Most Koreans are not unhappy about piano playing, in fact they encourage it in their children: however, most Koreans who play use an acoustic mat under the piano to minimise noise transmission to and through the structure. I believe these mats are inexpensively available from the music market in Seoul. |
Accoustic mat my ass. They should have acoustic shoes as well then. Koreans do not care about how they infringe their noise pollution onto anyone else. So why should you? I would tell her, too bad. I am playing my piano for one hour a day during this time (which is a very reasonable time). Your daughter can take a well deserved break at that time. Do you think if a Korean kid was playing the piano the woman would have told them to stop? Doubt it.
When I first moved into my current house, while we were moving in the furniture we had some music playing. In about ten minutes someone came and asked us to turn it down. No problem at all as it was a little loud and I didn't want to piss off the neighborhood on my first day. Now that I have lived there for 2 1/2 years I can say without a doubt that this is the loudest neighborhood on earth. No one tells the fish man with a bull-horn at 7 in the morning to be quite. No one tells the people yelling to others to move their cars at 7 in the morning to be quite. No one tells the real estate guy to keep his trap (he talks so damn loud) shut at any hour of the day. I hear loud music/TVs all the time coming for my neighbors all the time. No one has ever asked them to keep it down.
One of the best things that Korea has taught me is how to be rude and pushy towards people. While I am not this way a lot of the time, I do it when people deserve it right back. If people are nice to me, I am nice to them. I have learned the ancient fine art of ajooma power. |
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teachingld2004
Joined: 29 Mar 2004
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| Posted: Tue Aug 24, 2004 4:07 am Post subject: loud music |
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| What is an Office_tel? |
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rapier
Joined: 16 Feb 2003
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| Posted: Tue Aug 24, 2004 4:19 am Post subject: |
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| chiaa wrote: |
One of the best things that Korea has taught me is how to be rude and pushy towards people. While I am not this way a lot of the time, I do it when people deserve it right back. If people are nice to me, I am nice to them. I have learned the ancient fine art of ajooma power. |
Exactly. After a while here you realise that rudeness and pushiness are in fact, admirable and much desired qualities in a person. To be unfailingly polite is not an option here. These people sense weakness and strength, and nothing else. |
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inkoreaforgood
Joined: 15 Dec 2003
Location: Inchon
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| Posted: Tue Aug 24, 2004 4:54 am Post subject: |
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| rapier wrote: |
| chiaa wrote: |
One of the best things that Korea has taught me is how to be rude and pushy towards people. While I am not this way a lot of the time, I do it when people deserve it right back. If people are nice to me, I am nice to them. I have learned the ancient fine art of ajooma power. |
Exactly. After a while here you realise that rudeness and pushiness are in fact, admirable and much desired qualities in a person. To be unfailingly polite is not an option here. These people sense weakness and strength, and nothing else. |
I used to be a nice guy.... but some people make it really hard. People bud in line in front of me, shove me on the subway, etc., and I gotta wonder what they are thinking. " I gotta shove that big guy out of the way so that I can get a seat. Then, I'll be locked in a subway car/bus/whatever with a large individual who I have just pissed off. But hey, I'll have a seat!!" |
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Demophobe
Joined: 17 May 2004
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Yeah right....just be a jerk 'cause everyone else is. Great reasoning.
Dude....why didn't you buy an electric keyboard? I mean...I had to buy electric drums (I guess I could follow the other poster's advice and just bash away on my acoustics, but I just don't think it's right)...regardless of the hours, it's just common courtesy in any country not to play a loud instrument in an apartment. |
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bellum99
Joined: 23 Jan 2003
Location: don't need to know
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| Posted: Tue Aug 24, 2004 5:46 pm Post subject: when in rome |
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| When in Rome (Korea). |
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johnriley007
Joined: 25 Jun 2004
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| Posted: Tue Aug 24, 2004 9:16 pm Post subject: |
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| Dude....why didn't you buy an electric keyboard? I mean...I had to buy electric drums (I guess I could follow the other poster's advice and just bash away on my acoustics, but I just don't think it's right)...regardless of the hours, it's just common courtesy in any country not to play a loud instrument in an apartment |
yeah, but it doesn't matter if i'm playing loudly or not. the construction going on outside is usually louder. plus, everyone and their mother here has a piano. i hear people playing them ALL THE TIME... at first, i thought perhaps it was a little rude, but now i think she just has a bone to pick. |
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chiaa
Joined: 23 Aug 2003
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| Posted: Wed Aug 25, 2004 5:33 am Post subject: |
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| johnriley007 wrote: |
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| Dude....why didn't you buy an electric keyboard? I mean...I had to buy electric drums (I guess I could follow the other poster's advice and just bash away on my acoustics, but I just don't think it's right)...regardless of the hours, it's just common courtesy in any country not to play a loud instrument in an apartment |
yeah, but it doesn't matter if i'm playing loudly or not. the construction going on outside is usually louder. plus, everyone and their mother here has a piano. i hear people playing them ALL THE TIME... at first, i thought perhaps it was a little rude, but now i think she just has a bone to pick . |
You hit the nail on the head! Learn some Bed Folds' tunes and really drive her bonkers.
htttp://www.whatthebook.com |
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