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Real Reality
Joined: 10 Jan 2003 Location: Seoul
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Posted: Tue Sep 07, 2004 6:30 pm Post subject: Foreign women living and marrying in Korea |
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Foreign women here can find marriage frightening
Lyn Forias ended up being one of the hundreds of foreign brides who find themselves in an abusive relationship with a Korean man. And like the other women, Ms. Forias found out that extricating herself from the marriage was more difficult than she had expected because she had few rights under Korean law.
"...most Korean men who marry foreign wives often don't agree to sign for their wives' Korean citizenship because they fear that the women might run away after obtaining the visa. We've seen a foreign woman with a child who's lived with her husband for five years, but he still won't agree to sign it."
"While international marriages are on the rise in Korea, children raised by foreign parents have always been excluded from the benefits of social welfare," says Yu Gyeong-sun, Mr. Kim's secretary.
http://joongangdaily.joins.com/200409/07/200409072141067939900091009101.html |
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peppermint

Joined: 13 May 2003 Location: traversing the minefields of caddishness.
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Posted: Tue Sep 07, 2004 6:34 pm Post subject: Re: Foreign women living and marrying in Korea |
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Real Reality wrote: |
"...most Korean men who marry foreign wives often don't agree to sign for their wives' Korean citizenship because they fear that the women might run away after obtaining the visa. |
Interesting- was that in today's Joong ang?I just read something this morning there about Korean men trying to marry foreign women from places like Vietnam and Uzbekistan to get out of Korea. |
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weatherman

Joined: 14 Jan 2003 Location: Korea
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Posted: Tue Sep 07, 2004 6:41 pm Post subject: |
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The whole article is a great read. Lots of eye opening information. |
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JongnoGuru

Joined: 25 May 2004 Location: peeing on your doorstep
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Posted: Tue Sep 07, 2004 7:30 pm Post subject: |
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I find these two articles -- Reality's and Peppermint's -- troubling and highly representative of a growing malaise of despair in Korean society.
The first highlights the problem that Korean men are increasingly unable to find suitable marriage partners in Korea anymore.
The second indicates that Korea is becoming an undesirable place to live or simply unable to support older (though far from "elderly") single Korean men anymore -- not impoverished farmers or unemployed youths, but "well-educated professionals"(!) However small their numbers have been up till now, nobody a scant 5 or 10 years ago could have dreamed ANY Korean men might one day be seeking their futures, fortunes and wives (!!) in... Uzbekistan? Vietnam? or Mongolia??? Bloody incredible...
I guess every Korean expected some ill-effects from the country's rapid industrialization & modernization (pollution, traffic, spiraling housing costs, broken homes, juvenile delinquency, etc.). But the sort of deeper demographic rifts and social tumult indicated by these articles is nothing anybody would have dreamt... not this fast, not this soon, not this weird.
All I can say is -- wow!
The Guru
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just because

Joined: 01 Aug 2003 Location: Changwon - 4964
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Posted: Tue Sep 07, 2004 7:30 pm Post subject: |
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And I though Korean only married HAN blood
How much cross-racial breeding is going on.
The more the better i say |
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Eazy_E

Joined: 30 Oct 2003 Location: British Columbia, Canada
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Posted: Tue Sep 07, 2004 10:39 pm Post subject: |
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The heartache and misery those women go through must be hard to take. If any of us had a bad spell in Korea, it would be paradise compared to the predicament faced by a woman who married an abusive Korean man with very little legal recourse, trapped in an alien society with a child to care for. I hope that the Korean Government sees fit to recognize these women as human beings, if not Korean citizens. They need to do the right thing.
Everyone can take something from these articles. They're very moving. |
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Real Reality
Joined: 10 Jan 2003 Location: Seoul
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Posted: Fri Sep 17, 2004 10:40 am Post subject: |
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Difficulties Face Third World Women who Marry Korean Men
"I gave birth a week ago, and my mother-in-law awoke me in the morning to prepare the New Year's dishes. I had to work, cook, and wash dishes all day long. My body ached so much, I cried." "They don't care for the daughters I gave birth to. I don't mind such treatment, but what wrong did our daughter do?" "I've tried to talk to them. I even screamed and yelled at them. Then my husband held out his fist and told me to 'go back to your country.'"
Digital Chosun
http://english.chosun.com/w21data/html/news/200409/200409170024.html |
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peemil

Joined: 09 Feb 2003 Location: Koowoompa
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Posted: Fri Sep 17, 2004 2:07 pm Post subject: |
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They're pigs the lot of them. |
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mindmetoo
Joined: 02 Feb 2004
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Posted: Fri Sep 17, 2004 3:58 pm Post subject: |
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JongnoGuru wrote: |
I find these two articles -- Reality's and Peppermint's -- troubling and highly representative of a growing malaise of despair in Korean society.
The first highlights the problem that Korean men are increasingly unable to find suitable marriage partners in Korea anymore.
The second indicates that Korea is becoming an undesirable place to live or simply unable to support older (though far from "elderly") single Korean men anymore -- not impoverished farmers or unemployed youths, but "well-educated professionals"(!) However small their numbers have been up till now, nobody a scant 5 or 10 years ago could have dreamed ANY Korean men might one day be seeking their futures, fortunes and wives (!!) in... Uzbekistan? Vietnam? or Mongolia??? Bloody incredible...
I guess every Korean expected some ill-effects from the country's rapid industrialization & modernization (pollution, traffic, spiraling housing costs, broken homes, juvenile delinquency, etc.). But the sort of deeper demographic rifts and social tumult indicated by these articles is nothing anybody would have dreamt... not this fast, not this soon, not this weird.
All I can say is -- wow!
The Guru |
Lets not forget the two generations coming on board where males out number females by 20%. Those wacky Koreans and their use of ultrasound and abortion. Me thinks it's only going to get much, much worse.
These men are going to be bringing home Vietnamese and Chinese wives and their families are going to treat the women like dogs, not for a moment thinking they are the ones who caused this. |
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sadsac
Joined: 22 Dec 2003 Location: Gwangwang
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Posted: Sat Sep 18, 2004 6:52 pm Post subject: |
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JongnoGuru wrote.
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However small their numbers have been up till now, nobody a scant 5 or 10 years ago could have dreamed ANY Korean men might one day be seeking their futures, fortunes and wives (!!) in... Uzbekistan? Vietnam? or Mongolia??? Bloody incredible... |
No, they went to the Phillipines to get a wife. The gender mix will always favour the female, as Korea has never recovered from the loss of a major percentage of the young male populus during the Korean war.  |
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mindmetoo
Joined: 02 Feb 2004
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Posted: Sat Sep 18, 2004 11:44 pm Post subject: |
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sadsac wrote: |
JongnoGuru wrote.
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However small their numbers have been up till now, nobody a scant 5 or 10 years ago could have dreamed ANY Korean men might one day be seeking their futures, fortunes and wives (!!) in... Uzbekistan? Vietnam? or Mongolia??? Bloody incredible... |
No, they went to the Phillipines to get a wife. The gender mix will always favour the female, as Korea has never recovered from the loss of a major percentage of the young male populus during the Korean war.  |
Your last statement doesn't seem to make sense. A gender mix that favors females would imply more males than females. The Korean gender balance does favor females in that regard. For the younger generations, the ones born when ultrasound sexing and abortion were all perfectly legal, males outnumber females by upwards of 15-20%.
However, the last part of your sentence seems to imply lots of males were killed half a century ago and the last 3 generations have not redressed that imbalance. But that's not the case. |
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