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peemil

Joined: 09 Feb 2003 Location: Koowoompa
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Posted: Thu Sep 23, 2004 2:33 am Post subject: You can't force feed them a language! |
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ARGGHH!!!
Too pissed off. Thoughts? |
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The Evil Clown

Joined: 10 May 2004
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Posted: Thu Sep 23, 2004 3:10 am Post subject: Re: You can't *beep* force feed them a language! |
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peemil wrote: |
ARGGHH!!!
Too pissed off. Thoughts? |
Games, games, and more games. Be the white dancing monkey, make them laugh, and watch your boss count the tuition cash.
Good monkey, monkey talk Englishee, now dance monkey...dance. |
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matthewwoodford

Joined: 01 Oct 2003 Location: Location, location, location.
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Posted: Thu Sep 23, 2004 7:11 am Post subject: |
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No time to teach! Too busy racing through the curriculum!
Well, it's a good way to learn lots of vocabulary at least... |
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Zyzyfer

Joined: 29 Jan 2003 Location: who, what, where, when, why, how?
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Posted: Thu Sep 23, 2004 7:02 pm Post subject: |
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matthewwoodford wrote: |
No time to teach! Too busy racing through the curriculum!
Well, it's a good way to learn lots of vocabulary at least... |
Nah. They'll forget it in a week. *sigh* |
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captain kirk
Joined: 29 Jan 2003
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Posted: Thu Sep 23, 2004 7:39 pm Post subject: |
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Are they playing games with you?
I've got a class of pre-teens who have been in Side by Side 1 for eight months :lol. I've tried to do three quick pages, because there's only one word they can't handle on each page, if that. Then jump into a one page story and second page question page. I asked, which do you want to do, the book or the sheet now? The book!
Well, holy crud. You want to do the book you seem so miserably bored with. Teacher all alert whether they're bored or not, and primarily wanting to 'be a teacher', is stuck by policy with what you 'like'. Class management, 40 percent of the job, is up to 70 percent in this baby. They go into a kind of 'I'm in a hammock' state, while I chortle along getting them to participate.
Yes, it's like 'force feeding them the language'.
But I'd ask why can't you, personally, force feed them the language? You've got a lot going for you, the stern mother who's paying and urging her kid, behind the scenes, to soak it up. The hagwon manager who knows exactly what's going on and how to deal with it, they've been at it for years. And you've got adulthood over their kidliness.
In these kind of switched off classes, plodding along, the attitude is horrendous sometimes. Boot camp.
Evil Clown, you give me the friggin creeps, man. Get some self respect instead of letting it erode in weird ways.  |
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nev

Joined: 04 Jan 2004 Location: ch7t
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Posted: Thu Sep 23, 2004 8:01 pm Post subject: |
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I think you can force feed kids a language.
Just like you can force feed them maths, chemistry, history etc.
Some may never learn, most do alright, and some are a joy to behold. But I'd be amazed if my students were eagerly lapping up each new lesson. Of course you have to shove it down their throats.
One thing is for sure, however. A student never learns from a monkey. A student learns from a teacher. |
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casey's moon
Joined: 14 Sep 2004 Location: Daejeon
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Posted: Thu Sep 23, 2004 8:27 pm Post subject: |
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You can forcefeed them, I guess, but it isn't really learning. It's memorising what they need to memorise for a test... that goes for all subjects. |
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ratslash

Joined: 08 May 2003
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Posted: Fri Sep 24, 2004 2:01 am Post subject: |
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as somebody said, games and games. keep them happy, school doesn't lose students, your boss is happy.
try little things like wordsearches (a great time filler!) and not a waste of time coz while it is fun for the kids, they are unknowingly learning vocab!
www.puzzlemaker.com
that's all i can think of right now to make it easier for you. you are right, though, you can't force feed. if somebody doesn't want to learn then it is very difficult to force them. you could see it is a challenge, a challenge to yourself to get the kids interested. if the teacher is not enthusiastic then the students won't be. hell, can you tell i've just started a teach training course!!!  |
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whatthefunk

Joined: 21 Apr 2003 Location: Dont have a clue
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Posted: Fri Sep 24, 2004 9:57 pm Post subject: |
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it has been proven that three teaspoons of english shoved down a childs throat twice a day, preferably in the morning and before bed, will increase there instability and provide several headaches for english teachers. |
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Zed

Joined: 20 Jan 2003 Location: Shakedown Street
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Posted: Sun Sep 26, 2004 2:54 am Post subject: Re: You can't *beep* force feed them a language! |
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peemil wrote: |
ARGGHH!!!
Too pissed off. Thoughts? |
The unwillingness of most of them to participate with any enthusiasm, be they adults or children, often leaves little room for choice. |
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Alias

Joined: 24 Jan 2003
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Posted: Wed Sep 29, 2004 2:07 pm Post subject: |
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nev wrote: |
One thing is for sure, however. A student never learns from a monkey. A student learns from a teacher. |
I agree. The problem is that most hagwons want monkeys. Not teachers.
Now shutup and dance white monkey! Keep that tuition flowing in! |
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