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CustomX · Joined: 25 Aug 2004 Location: Seoul

I've only received 2 offers, but mostly because I havent had my diploma until today. I specifially told the recruiters that I wanted to go to Seoul. One position offered is in Suwon and the other is Daegu. The recruiter was trying to convince me that Suwon is similar to Seoul and its only 1 hour away on subway. Frustrating they dont listen to me. Anyways, both offers were for 1.9. I'd like to get 2.0, as it seems fairly common to get this much based on the offers on the board. Im sending the recruiter another email, saying I only want to teach in Seoul, I dont want block shifts, and I'd like a single studio apartment. Would it be rude for me to request 2.0? Im hesitant about sending this email out until I get somebody elses opinion. You may say that 100,000 won /month isnt much, but after one year thats over $1,200 USD. I think I'll come across as greedy. Maybe I am, but like I said, I see job offers on the board all the time for 2.0 for newbs

schwa · Joined: 18 Jan 2003 Location: Yap

manlyboy · Posted: Fri Oct 01, 2004 3:55 pm Post subject:

CustomX:

VanIslander · Posted: Fri Oct 01, 2004 3:58 pm Post subject:

I told recruiters my list of "MUST HAVES" and a different list of "WOULD LIKES"

I must have 2.0 mill a month. I won't consider anything less.
I must have mornings off. I won't work before 1 p.m.
I must work on the southeast coast. I won't work inland.
I must be able to phone a past foreign teacher from the academy.

Those were my demands. It may sound too strong. But I didn't want any meaning lost in translation. I got exactly what I most needed.

There are too many jobs and too many recruiters to settle for less than what you really need. Don't listen too much to the "advice" of any single recruiter.

You only have two offers? Then look around more. There are hundreds of jobs on www.pusanweb.com, which is where I looked.

Good luck whatever.

CustomX · Joined: 25 Aug 2004 Location: Seoul

Well I was received the offers before I had any of my paperwork completed. I received my diploma today and got 5 notarized copies of it this afternoon at the Korean consulate. So at this point I have my passport, diploma, and copies of my diploma. I would imagine that having these I should receive more offers. The other reason I've only had 2 offers is because I've only been using this 1 recruiter. But now I can apply directly to any recruiter who posts on Daves, Pusanweb or WorkNPlay so I should have better luck.

Manlyboy-i actually would compromise some if the terms were right. I found a job on WorkNPlay that was about 22hrs/wk M-F 4-8:30pm plus 1 saturday a month for 3 hours that paid 1.9 million, plus all the other usual benefits (air, 50% medical/dental, apt, etc). I would have taken that position as the hours seemed perfect and I wouldnt mind working 1 saturday a month for just a few hours. I guess I wont send the email, I'll just wait for the offers to come hopefully. Thanks for your help

prairieboy · Joined: 14 Sep 2003 Location: The batcave.

Tell them what you expect for a salary or what you "want". You'll find that recruiters will generally send you offers without really screening for your requirements anyway.

If you use the terms, "I'd like" instead of "I want", "I need" or "I require" you'll probably get more offers but still with little screening for your "likes" list.

For example, the last time I was searching for a job I emailed many recruiters and in my cover letter/email introduction I outlined my "likes". I only had two things that were "necessary" for me to entertain an offer, 2.2 million a month (no minimum hours stated or schedule demand) and single housing. What I got were mainly 1.9's and 2.0's and a couple of 2.2's that actually met my minimum requirements.

Don't be afraid to let them know what you'll accept and what you are likely not to accept because most recruiters won't bother to screen offers anyway.

Cheers

iiicalypso · Joined: 13 Aug 2003 Location: is everything

As long as you are polite I don't see anything wrong with telling them what your expectations are. I don't know whether they pay any attention, but it woun't do them any good to bombard you with offers that you are not going to take. As long as you are willing to wait a little longer and spend a little more energy looking you will eventually find a job that meets your expectations, at least on paper. Remember, it is your life, not the recruiters, and if they get bent out of shape, well, tough tulips. There are plenty of other avenues to use. Good Luck!

Ilsanman · Joined: 15 Aug 2003 Location: Bucheon, Korea

I certainly say what I want. If they actually listen, it saves us all some time.

Grotto · Joined: 21 Mar 2004

state up front what you want.

Recruiters are stupid. You can tell them that you want 2.2 mil a month and they will still send you positions for 1.9.

Tell them you want Seoul only and they will send you offers in other cities.

Pick and choose.

CustomX · Joined: 25 Aug 2004 Location: Seoul

Thanks again for the help. Im going to take your advice and send them an email right now, using 'I'd like' because I am flexible on some aspects, if the conditions are right.