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basman



Joined: 02 May 2008
Location: seoul

PostPosted: Tue Jul 29, 2008 8:30 am    Post subject: my 70% pension???? Reply with quote

hey dudes...

so i'm leaving korea and i'm from a country that allows me to get a pension from korea when i leave (canada)

anyway,

i go to the pension office and fill out the forms and i get a print out of what i am recieving...

it's a lot lower than what i thought it would be, about 30% lower,

i showed this to my boss and asked her why it's so low and she said that because i am a foreigner they only have to declare 70% income to the pension guys...

is this true...

does anyone know anything about this, i googled the hell out of it but didn't get anything, does anybody know anything or heard anything about something like this....?
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BigBuds



Joined: 15 Sep 2005
Location: Changwon

PostPosted: Tue Jul 29, 2008 9:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Your boss is full of s hit!!!
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billybrobby



Joined: 09 Dec 2004

PostPosted: Tue Jul 29, 2008 12:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hehe. Sounds like Not Wearing Puffy Director Pants Tax.
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Lekker



Joined: 09 Feb 2008
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Tue Jul 29, 2008 12:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

She doesn't want to pay 100% because that would mean she would need to pay more in taxes. She thinks that by telling you that you are a foreigner blah blah blah that you will believe it. Don't do what a lot of people do and fall for this nonsense. She is cold heartedly ripping you off. You want your pension in full? Here's what you do.

Have a second conversation with your boss. Record it. Then take the recording back to the pension office. Tell them you aren't satisfied with the answer your boss gave you, then play them the recording. Then have them call the labor board and they will deal with it, probably threaten to close her business down unless she pays you, which would probably be only in cash which would enable her to stay under the table on this... Either way, put your foot down on this. You gave her a YEAR of your life. She thinks she is right in screwing you?

Don't be reluctant in doing so. Don't worry about her firing you, she can't although she probably thinks she can. You need to be just as cold hearted as her here. Then go back home to Canada and get what you are properly owed in two to three weeks time.

Your boss isn't your friend, and you have now caught her in a lie, now she needs to "face" up.

I went through the same thing with my previous boss, except he was claiming me at 40% but taking out the taxes from my salary in full. Don't stand for this BS. Put your feet down and nail her to the wall, or she'll think you are a chump and laugh her ass off as you fly back to Canada.
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Real Reality



Joined: 10 Jan 2003
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Tue Jul 29, 2008 6:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Umm....30% untaxable income?
http://forums.eslcafe.com/korea/viewtopic.php?t=109754

National Tax Service (see question 11)
Please give me information on overseas allowance for expatriates?
http://www.nta.go.kr/eng/help/help_02.asp?top_code=H001&sub_code=HS01&ssub_code=HSA2#11.
Quote:
From 2004, foreign employees may choose either (ⅰ) or (ⅱ) when he files year-end tax settlement.
ⅰ) Separate taxation of wage and salary income applying 17% flat rate
- In this case, exemption, deduction and reduction will not be allowed and foreign employees must submit application form to be applied 17% flat rate
ⅱ) Exemption of 30% of wage and salary income on income tax
- Monthly withholding after subtracting above amount
- Exemption, deduction and reduction will be allowed at the year-end tax settlement after subtracting above amount

Korea Taxation of International Executives, KPMG International (page 9 of pdf)
www.kpmg.com/SiteCollectionDocuments/TIES/KOREA_2008_TIES.pdf
Quote:
The following special exclusions/rates are available to expatriates:
Foreigners are allowed to exclude 30 percent of their total Korea-sourced employment income from taxable income
....

Foreign Taxpayers' Guide to Korean Taxes
Publication, Resource, National Tax Service
http://www.nta.go.kr/eng/resources/resour_21.asp?minfoKey=MINF7420080211223143
or this link
http://www.nta.go.kr/eng/resources/resour_21.asp?minfoKey=MINF7420080211223143&type=V
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billybrobby



Joined: 09 Dec 2004

PostPosted: Tue Jul 29, 2008 7:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well, i'll be...
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Ut videam



Joined: 07 Dec 2007
Location: Pocheon-si, Gyeonggi-do

PostPosted: Tue Jul 29, 2008 7:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Those regulations apply to income taxation, not pension.

The boss used a (probably intentional) misapplication of NTS regulations to pension contributions in order to get out of paying the rightful amount of payroll tax.
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hagwonnewbie



Joined: 09 Feb 2007
Location: Asia

PostPosted: Tue Jul 29, 2008 8:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

My boss tried that crap, too. I had to call him out on that among other things. Now he's totally pissed at me and I might have to bail.
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Real Reality



Joined: 10 Jan 2003
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Tue Jul 29, 2008 9:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

National Pension Service
The customer service center phone number is 1355.
The main office phone number in Seoul is 02-2240-1114.
http://www.npc.or.kr/apppage/english/contact/contact_01.jsp

National Pension Service Q&A Board
http://www.npc.or.kr/apppage/english/qna/qna_02.jsp

National Tax Service
The helpline for foreigners is 02-397-1440 or 02-2076-5711.
http://www.nta.go.kr/eng

National Tax Service E-mail Form Help
http://www.nta.go.kr/eng/help/help_01_01.asp
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basman



Joined: 02 May 2008
Location: seoul

PostPosted: Tue Jul 29, 2008 10:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

so the 30% thing for pension doesn't apply?

i'm sorry i'm a little lost here, anything that involves taxes makes my head spin...
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