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Ilsanman

Joined: 15 Aug 2003 Location: Bucheon, Korea
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Posted: Wed Oct 13, 2004 7:02 am Post subject: No time for anything............ |
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The very thing that built Korea up to being a 1st/2nd world country is the same thing that's killing it as we very speak.
I call it the ���� ���� disease, or other names.
Need I explain?
No time for anything.
No time to build buildings properly, so they have to build them twice.
No time for safety standards.
No time to properly plan for the future.
No time to care about the environment.
No time to punish corrupt people.
No time to correctly work on reuniting the 2 Koreas.
No time to learn English properly.
No time to say 'excuse me' on the subway before pushing you.
No time to teach children manners.
There are so many more examples.
I think if I could start learning Korean all over again, the 1st verb I would learn is �ٻڴ� and the 1st phrase I would say is �ð��� �����
Now that Koreans are believing all the hype about China's future (personally, I don't, but that's another story for another time), there is a mad rush to learn Chinese now. I wonder if they're learning it properly, or if they'll speak it as badly as they speak English-ee here. Not that I care at all for Chinese anything.
Any thoughts? |
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fidel
Joined: 07 Feb 2003 Location: North Shore NZ
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Posted: Wed Oct 13, 2004 1:52 pm Post subject: |
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Another mindless rant, highlighting for us once again your perceived deficiencies with Korea/Koreans, well done, I hope it makes you feel more superior.
You seem to be a sad lad, do you have any friends? (Hold up a minute, I'm not suggesting making a Korean friend!). Possibly you could join a club or something, like a European only club where us civilised, slow paced lot, can discuss how to teach the savages the 'right,white way of doing things'. |
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kiwiboy_nz_99

Joined: 05 Jul 2003 Location: ...Enlightenment...
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Posted: Wed Oct 13, 2004 4:47 pm Post subject: |
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Another mindless rant, highlighting for us once again your perceived deficiencies with Korea/Koreans, well done, I hope it makes you feel more superior.
You seem to be a sad lad, do you have any friends? (Hold up a minute, I'm not suggesting making a Korean friend!). Possibly you could join a club or something, like a European only club where us civilised, slow paced lot, can discuss how to teach the savages the 'right,white way of doing things'. |
The OP is right, and in fact even Koreans talk about it and complain about it. |
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fidel
Joined: 07 Feb 2003 Location: North Shore NZ
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Posted: Wed Oct 13, 2004 9:12 pm Post subject: |
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These topics have been talked about in some form or another every week on this site for the last several years. Okay, the balli balli phrase was coined by someone in the past, it got talked about a lot in the media and became accepted as a fact. That's how these things happen.
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| No time to build buildings properly, so they have to build them twice. |
Don't understand this statement, however korean construction companies are active around the world so they must be doing something right. In the past Korea had a terrible public safety record especially in the 80's and 90's however that was seen as the price of development.
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| No time for safety standards. |
Safety standards are the norm however whether they are enforced or not is another discussion.
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| No time to punish corrupt people. |
Again a lack of will, nothing about time constraints.
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| ]No time to correctly work on reuniting the 2 Koreas |
. Share the world your wonderful insights on how you would reunite correct the two Korea's.
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| No time to learn English properly |
. Just like I haven't the time to learn Korean, and I haven't the time to learn Taekwondo, and Bob down the street hasn't got time to paint his house.
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| No time to say 'excuse me' on the subway before pushing you |
The time is there, however cultural practices restrain most people from admitting their wrong.
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| No time to teach children manners. |
Seem no worse than kids you might encounter anywhere around the world. |
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rapier
Joined: 16 Feb 2003
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Posted: Wed Oct 13, 2004 9:48 pm Post subject: |
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All these things are features of big city life anywhere in the world, except in Korea you can cross off frequent violent crime off that list.
"This modern life with its sick hurry and divided aims" (Wordsworth) is a feature of every country that has sacrificed its old fashioned curtesy, strong family life, and rich natural environment to capitalism and consumerism.
However I still think Seoul is a more pleasant place to be than many western cities. |
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gomurr

Joined: 04 Feb 2003
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Posted: Thu Oct 14, 2004 4:33 pm Post subject: |
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| Korean Construction Companies are active around the world because they are cheaper than their Western/Japanese Counterparts. If Korean Construction is so good then why are there huge cracks in the walls at a year old building where my school is? |
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komtengi

Joined: 30 Sep 2003 Location: Slummin it up in Haebangchon
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Posted: Thu Oct 14, 2004 6:16 pm Post subject: |
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They are renowned for cutting corners to get things done quickly... KTX springs to mind.
As for the reunification... why would you want that to happen anyway?? |
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oneiros

Joined: 19 Aug 2003 Location: Villa Straylight
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Posted: Thu Oct 14, 2004 7:09 pm Post subject: Re: No time for anything............ |
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| Ilsanman wrote: |
No time to build buildings properly, so they have to build them twice.
No time for safety standards.
No time to properly plan for the future.
No time to care about the environment.
No time to punish corrupt people.
No time to correctly work on reuniting the 2 Koreas.
No time to learn English properly.
No time to say 'excuse me' on the subway before pushing you.
No time to teach children manners.
There are so many more examples.
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No time for heartache
No time to run and hide
No time for breaking down
No time to cry
Just thought this thread was begging for some Sisters of Mercy.  |
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Butterfly
Joined: 02 Mar 2003 Location: Kuwait
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Posted: Thu Oct 14, 2004 7:23 pm Post subject: |
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The OP is right, and in fact even Koreans talk about it and complain about it. |
It is true actually, that mainstream modern culture here has tended to focus so much on new projects that they don't really finish the old ones. Korean people I often find, don't really have a good idea of the difference between reality and imagined on the topic of pace. They don't actually work at anything like the pace they plan to.
This is the 8282 culture, it's not that things get done quickly, it's the perception that they must, when the reality is different. Korean people do work hard I believe, it's just the older generation don't really understand the concept of productivity, and how much work you can expect from an individual or team and indeed how to maximize their production levels.
Amazingingly, people here are very aware of the work of management theorists and gurus right throughout the 20th century who all talk about productivity and motivation rather than time and motion, but it doesn't seem to make any difference. I'll never understand it. Constant communication problems also cause obstacles to rapid production of work. |
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fidel
Joined: 07 Feb 2003 Location: North Shore NZ
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Posted: Thu Oct 14, 2004 10:41 pm Post subject: |
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