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lookingtoteach
Joined: 18 Feb 2003
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Posted: Sat Oct 23, 2004 1:45 pm Post subject: Thinking about coming back... |
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Okay, so I've been back in Canada for six months now and I want to come back to Korea. I worked there for four months and liked most aspects of the job where I was, but ran because my supervisor was all but verbally and emotionally abusing me. It would have been one thing if he was just a jerk and was like that to all of the teachers, but no, there must have been something special about me cause I was the only one he hated (it might have something to do with the fact that he didn't hire me but the director did when he was in the hospital). But I didn't mind the teaching and the kids. My original E2 runs out in January, and I'll be going over on another passport anyway (my old one runs out in January), sometime around March (probably to the Seoul region). I guess my question is do I put my four months teaching on my resume to say I had experience, or leave it off to eliminate the questions. It shouldn't be too hard getting back in the country even if the director did contact Immigration about my run cause I'll be going back on another passport and passport number. Any suggestions on anything would be great. Thanks. |
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tomwaits

Joined: 05 Feb 2003 Location: PC Bong
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Posted: Sat Oct 23, 2004 6:31 pm Post subject: |
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I thought the key thing was you wait until the old contract would have expired? In that case you would be fine. A new passport will not help and I have exp. in that situation. Different passport or not the old stuff will come up---but it shouldn't mateer.
Put the 4 months on resume? I think yes because if they find out later it will only be worse. Tell the truth---still find something. |
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margaret

Joined: 14 Oct 2003
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Posted: Sat Oct 23, 2004 7:42 pm Post subject: |
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I have no answer for you--just a similar question. I'm also thinking about going back to Korea and am wondering what to put on my resume. I was sent back to the US for health reasons--asthma which is now under control. So I'm wondering if I should put those 7 months on my resume.
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lookingtoteach
Joined: 18 Feb 2003
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Posted: Mon Oct 25, 2004 7:57 am Post subject: |
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Okay so far I've gotten one 'yes' to the putting the teaching on the resume even though I've run. Any other opinions about it? Yes, no, don't come back...anything. |
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just because

Joined: 01 Aug 2003 Location: Changwon - 4964
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Posted: Mon Oct 25, 2004 8:26 am Post subject: |
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I wouldn't do it.
-You ran out on your first contract after 4 months. No matter what the circumstances were, this will not be encouraging to any prospective employer who is hoping you won't do the same to them. The more repetable the company the less chance you would have of working there.
I would just say you have been doing some volunteer work, blah blah blah in Canada and looking for a change.
Its a need-to-know basis. Does your new employer really need to know you have been here before. Not really and I think putting that you have lived here for 4 months and than ran would be a disadvantage and not an advantage to your job hunt. |
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trevorcollins
Joined: 02 Jul 2004
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Posted: Mon Oct 25, 2004 8:34 am Post subject: |
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Personally I'd half lie. Say you have the teaching experience, 4 months, because it's true. I'm sure you're a much better teacher having had that than you'd be without it. Say you worked in Mexico or Taiwan or China or something for that time though. If you say Korea it MAY be a big deal. In all likeliness they're not going to know anything about working or visa conditions in any of those other countries. I see 3 month job vacancies advertised in China all the time, so it's not so strange to say you only worked for a short time, and not 12 months. |
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the eye

Joined: 29 Jan 2004
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Posted: Mon Oct 25, 2004 8:58 am Post subject: |
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er...
if you put the 4month stint on your resume, they are going to want to contact the employer.
do you want to be in the middle of that garbage?
past experience implies solid references and contacts. it looks like you have none in this case.
at any rate, 4 months is nothing to an employer here. most would just as easily hire someone with no experience at all. |
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trevorcollins
Joined: 02 Jul 2004
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Posted: Mon Oct 25, 2004 9:19 am Post subject: |
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the eye wrote: |
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if you put the 4month stint on your resume, they are going to want to contact the employer.
do you want to be in the middle of that garbage?
past experience implies solid references and contacts. it looks like you have none in this case.
at any rate, 4 months is nothing to an employer here. most would just as easily hire someone with no experience at all. |
hence putting another country. what director here would ever call another country to check a reference....? yeah, that's right, none. |
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the eye

Joined: 29 Jan 2004
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Posted: Mon Oct 25, 2004 9:31 am Post subject: |
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trevorcollins wrote: |
hence putting another country. what director here would ever call another country to check a reference....? yeah, that's right, none. |
i've never worked anywhere here without them calling international references. it's only been 4 years running, but that's hardly nothing, dude.
why the attitude? your idea might work....but why bother for 4 lousy months?? |
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margaret

Joined: 14 Oct 2003
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Posted: Mon Oct 25, 2004 11:39 am Post subject: |
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To all who advocate not putting it on his resume or saying he was somewhere else--won't the new employer see the old E-2 visa on his passport or record somewhere?
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Son Deureo!
Joined: 30 Apr 2003
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Posted: Mon Oct 25, 2004 4:32 pm Post subject: |
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I doubt it. The OP shouldn't be turning his passport over to his new employer anyway, just to Immigration when he applies for his ARC. And I can't imagine why Immgration would be revealing the OP's visa history to the director either. |
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sistersarah
Joined: 03 Jan 2004 Location: hiding out
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Posted: Mon Oct 25, 2004 5:45 pm Post subject: |
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well, i would just be honest. they know that a lot of foreign workers have a hard time at hogwans. and someone said that you won't get hired with a reputable school if you put the 4 months down.......i think the exact opposite would happen.
anyway, this happened to me....i ran from my first hogwan after a month because it was hell on earth, then i was at a second hogwan for four months when they fired me due to financial reasons....when i went looking for a third job, i was totally upfront about what had happened....yeah, it raised a few eyebrows at first, but those who were willing to listen understood completely and i ended up getting hired on to a reputable school run by good people.
i say put the 4 months on the resume. |
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trevorcollins
Joined: 02 Jul 2004
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Posted: Mon Oct 25, 2004 5:50 pm Post subject: |
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the eye wrote: |
i've never worked anywhere here without them calling international references. it's only been 4 years running, but that's hardly nothing, dude.
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Good for you. You've had a job for 4 years. Milestone. Congrats.
I don't know of ONE single Korean hagwon boss that's called internationally to check a reference. I'm sure 99% of everyone else here has had the same experience. |
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the eye

Joined: 29 Jan 2004
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Posted: Mon Oct 25, 2004 6:11 pm Post subject: |
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well, i'll introduce you to 3 of them... let me know.
i guess i didn't apply to the same crap as did the 99% of the people in your poll.
my first year, i worked at an international prep school.
second a university connected hagwan.
third. university...so i guess that don't count.
now... heaven.
the point that you still choose to avoid, once again, is.... who the hell cares about 4 lousy months?????
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just because

Joined: 01 Aug 2003 Location: Changwon - 4964
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Posted: Mon Oct 25, 2004 6:19 pm Post subject: |
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[quote="the eye"i've never worked anywhere here without them calling international references. it's only been 4 years running, but that's hardly nothing, dude][/quote]
I've never worked anywhere here that have checked any(korean and overseas) of my references. If you are working in a run of the mill hagwon i doubt they will call internationally to check your references.
BTW....the eye, where do you work???? |
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