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Real Reality
Joined: 10 Jan 2003 Location: Seoul
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Posted: Mon Oct 18, 2004 1:16 pm Post subject: Annual salary of 48 million won or $41,700. |
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Bank Employees Paid W48 Mil. Last Year
Local banks paid their employees an annual salary of 48 million won ($41,700) on average last year, while workers at securities firms received 51.4 million won and insurance companies paid an average of 39.8 million won, according to the Financial Supervisory Service Monday.
The Korea Times (October 18, 2004)
http://times.hankooki.com/lpage/biz/200410/kt2004101815254511910.htm
Banking is not known for high salaries (it's a margin business which puts downward pressure on pay). Starting salaries in commercial banking with a bachelor's degree range in 1999/2000 have been in the $24,000 to $38,000 range. Starting salaries with an MBA degree range from $30,000 to $50,000 (up to low $60s at money center banks). After five to ten years in banking you should expect a salary in the $50,000 to $60,000 range.
http://www.careers-in-finance.com/cbsal.htm
According to a salary survey conducted by Robert Half International, a staffing services firm specializing in accounting and finance, mortgage loan officers earned between $36,000 and $45,750 in 2002; consumer loan officers with 1 to 3 years of experience earned between $42,250 and $56,750; and commercial loan officers with 1 to 3 years of experience made between $48,000 and $64,500.
Occupational Outlook Handbook: Loan counselors and officers
http://www.bls.gov/oco/ocos018.htm
Median annual earnings of all postsecondary teachers in 2002 were $49,040. The middle 50 percent earned between $34,310 and $69,580.
Occupational Outlook Handbook: Teachers--Postsecondary
http://bls.gov/oco/ocos066.htm |
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Gollum
Joined: 04 Sep 2003 Location: Japan
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gajackson1

Joined: 27 Jan 2003 Location: Casa Chil, Sungai Besar, Sultanate of Brunei
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Posted: Mon Oct 18, 2004 8:16 pm Post subject: |
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Hey RR, that is for the States, right?
Hmmm - - - if so, I imagine that would include tenured profs, high-level schools, etc. That is why the median seems high to me.
If I actually buckled down & worked a full year here, my net salary would be around 50mill won.
But, alas, we like our vacations too much, so it is closer to 36 . . .
G. |
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Real Reality
Joined: 10 Jan 2003 Location: Seoul
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Posted: Mon Oct 18, 2004 10:19 pm Post subject: |
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gajackson1,
What kind of job security do you have? What pension plan do you have (national or private with higher interest)? When is your sabbatical? When can you apply for your six month sabbatical? When can you apply for your year sabbatical? How much money do you receive to go to conferences? How much money do you receive to "maintain" your office? How many assistants will the university or school support for you?
You are "Part-time Faculty" or an "Adjunct."
http://www-writing.berkeley.edu/TESL-EJ/ej16/f1.html
The foreign professor -- colleague or hired hand?
http://joongangdaily.joins.com/200206/14/200206142349223599900090109011.html |
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weatherman

Joined: 14 Jan 2003 Location: Korea
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Posted: Mon Oct 18, 2004 11:02 pm Post subject: |
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Those numbers are really high, and those with a banking job should count their blessings. The average income in Korea is around 12,000 and that might be a little high. I am not surprised in the least though....... How can a man (we are talking about Korea) provide for his family a upward middle class life, if he doesn't make that kind of money? There really is a two tier level of work in this society. Some really do have a good life handed to them for only passing a test. |
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shawner88

Joined: 01 Feb 2003
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Posted: Tue Oct 19, 2004 3:45 am Post subject: |
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It will still take them 20 years to save for an apartment for each of their kids. |
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mindmetoo
Joined: 02 Feb 2004
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Posted: Tue Oct 19, 2004 3:51 am Post subject: |
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Agreed. Why not put these links in some kind of sticky FAQ post and be done with it? |
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gajackson1

Joined: 27 Jan 2003 Location: Casa Chil, Sungai Besar, Sultanate of Brunei
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Posted: Tue Oct 19, 2004 4:06 am Post subject: |
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RR, sorry - I did my 'time' here, and now I have a corporate job, with full normal benefits - almost the same as a corp job back home stateside. 7 years in, and I deserve it -
My hakwon expierences were great for 2 of 3; my last school cracked financially, but even that worked out mostly ok.
(If all this seems elusive, it is just I don't want to air out my job & company business here. RR, we are on good terms, boardwise - you can always pm me for more info).
I would really love to see similar figures for Korea. Also, you have to account for cost of living & inflation, too . . .
Respectfully,
G.
PS ~ I actually know about how much I would be making if I had stayed in Texas as a teacher for the past 7 years; I have no idea if I had gone into business in the private sector, but am pretty sure i would be both a lot richer, and a lot less happy/more stressed . . . |
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Gollum
Joined: 04 Sep 2003 Location: Japan
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Posted: Tue Oct 19, 2004 3:35 pm Post subject: |
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mindmetoo wrote: |
Agreed. Why not put these links in some kind of sticky FAQ post and be done with it? |
I'm with you, but the problem is that it's bad to make a "sticky" out of misinformation.
Personally, I feel the mods need to have a heart-to-heart with RR about these posts, or make him combine his endless rants under one salary topic. |
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mindmetoo
Joined: 02 Feb 2004
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Posted: Tue Oct 19, 2004 3:59 pm Post subject: |
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Gollum wrote: |
mindmetoo wrote: |
Agreed. Why not put these links in some kind of sticky FAQ post and be done with it? |
I'm with you, but the problem is that it's bad to make a "sticky" out of misinformation.
Personally, I feel the mods need to have a heart-to-heart with RR about these posts, or make him combine his endless rants under one salary topic. |
RR: Jobs in major corporations pay a lot more than hagwon jobs.
Hagwon worker: Okay. So?
RR: They pay a lot more!
Hagwon worker: They pay a lot more than working at Lotteria too or a McDonald's back at home, which, after a job at a hagwon, is the second easiest job I can get with the minimum requirements of being white and having any BA. So what's your point?
RR: They pay a lot more!
Hagwon worker: But what's the basis for your comparison or rational for posting this yet again? How is a hagwon job the same as working for a chaebol that hopes to retain employees for life, which acts as a social safety net, which without its benefits for Koreans who will live their lives in Korea, have children, be forced to pay for their education, take care of their parents, society would collapse. How can you compare that to a job structured around the idea there are a legion of fresh BA grads who like the idea of a free apartment, a chance to meet cute Korean girls, zip into country for a couple years, bank $20,000 during that time, and go home?
RR: They pay a lot more! |
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dogbert

Joined: 29 Jan 2003 Location: Killbox 90210
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Posted: Wed Oct 20, 2004 10:31 pm Post subject: |
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Real Reality wrote: |
gajackson1,
What kind of job security do you have? What pension plan do you have (national or private with higher interest)? When is your sabbatical? When can you apply for your six month sabbatical? When can you apply for your year sabbatical? How much money do you receive to go to conferences? How much money do you receive to "maintain" your office? How many assistants will the university or school support for you?
You are "Part-time Faculty" or an "Adjunct."
http://www-writing.berkeley.edu/TESL-EJ/ej16/f1.html
The foreign professor -- colleague or hired hand?
http://joongangdaily.joins.com/200206/14/200206142349223599900090109011.html |
Research School of Pacific & Asian Studies
Australian National University
Research Fellow (Korean Studies)
Fixed Term - 3 years
Academic Level B
Salary Package: $53,640 - $63,287 pa, plus 17% super
The Research School of Pacific and Asian Studies invites applications
for a research position in Korean Studies, available from January
2005. This research position will be held in an academic department
in the Research School of Pacific and Asian Studies corresponding to
the candidate's specialisation. The position is open to scholars in
the social sciences, with preference for someone working on Korean
politics, international relations, anthropology, gender studies or
human geography.
The successful candidate will be expected to conduct high-level
research in his or her area of specialisation, supervise graduate
students, and assist in the promotion of Korean studies at the
University. |
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Real Reality
Joined: 10 Jan 2003 Location: Seoul
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Posted: Thu Oct 21, 2004 2:57 am Post subject: |
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dogbert,
Australia = Korea
Canberra = Seoul
Sydney = Busan
Perth = Mokpo
Darwin = Incheon |
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dogbert

Joined: 29 Jan 2003 Location: Killbox 90210
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Posted: Thu Oct 21, 2004 6:08 pm Post subject: |
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Real Reality wrote: |
dogbert,
Australia = Korea
Canberra = Seoul
Sydney = Busan
Perth = Mokpo
Darwin = Incheon |
See? Just as I suspected, you are highly qualified for that position. Hurry and get your paperwork in before the application period ends! |
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