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itaewonguy

Joined: 25 Mar 2003
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Posted: Sun Oct 17, 2004 9:02 am Post subject: XP PRO |
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where can I buy an original XP PRO in english.. IN SEOUL..
how much is it??
I have been using a fake copy for 2 years now..
but the other day my computer crashed. and it wont let me do a repair install with the disk.. or even a recovery..
my comp was seriously out of action.. I had to install another OS on my other HDD. a korean windows.. WOW..
ohh if anyone knows how I can fix this problem please let me know..
when I try to install repair.. it wont copy the files..
I was thinking getting an orginal or use a friends one and see if that works but I doubt it huh.. different key codes and all etc...
any advice?
ohh yeah it says the FDC.SYS is corrupted..
and agian as I said.. it cant copy any files over for a repair.. |
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Demophobe

Joined: 17 May 2004
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Posted: Sun Oct 17, 2004 12:24 pm Post subject: |
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From what I understand, there is a shady guy in some alley at Yongsan who seels English software, but I also belive it's pirate stuff. I have never seen him or used his services, so I am not sure.
Although I think it's good to have a legit copy (for many reasons), I doubt it's the disk that is the problem. Did you try a format and then a clean install? |
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mindmetoo
Joined: 02 Feb 2004
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Posted: Sun Oct 17, 2004 4:06 pm Post subject: |
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| Demophobe wrote: |
From what I understand, there is a shady guy in some alley at Yongsan who seels English software, but I also belive it's pirate stuff. I have never seen him or used his services, so I am not sure.
Although I think it's good to have a legit copy (for many reasons), I doubt it's the disk that is the problem. Did you try a format and then a clean install? |
You can't format under XP. Format is a DOS command and XP doesn't let you "drop to DOS". The only way to wipe your HD under XP is to put in the CD and do a clean install.
That said, you can sort of trick the system however by using a boot disk from an older o/s like Windows 98 or Windows ME and dropping to DOS that way. |
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itaewonguy

Joined: 25 Mar 2003
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Posted: Sun Oct 17, 2004 7:35 pm Post subject: |
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yes but if it is not the disk.. then why wont the disk allow a repair or recovery??
no I want to buy a legit copy.. |
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jaebea
Joined: 21 Sep 2003 Location: SYD
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Posted: Sun Oct 17, 2004 8:02 pm Post subject: |
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Recent flavours of Windows don't need to be preformatted, as you can simply boot up with the CD and do your partitioning/formatting work there.
Much much easier.
jae. |
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itaewonguy

Joined: 25 Mar 2003
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Posted: Mon Oct 18, 2004 1:08 am Post subject: |
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| jaebea wrote: |
Recent flavours of Windows don't need to be preformatted, as you can simply boot up with the CD and do your partitioning/formatting work there.
Much much easier.
jae. |
what do you mean??
what are you talking about? |
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Demophobe

Joined: 17 May 2004
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Posted: Mon Oct 18, 2004 1:26 am Post subject: |
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| mindmetoo wrote: |
You can't format under XP. Format is a DOS command and XP doesn't let you "drop to DOS". The only way to wipe your HD under XP is to put in the CD and do a clean install.
That said, you can sort of trick the system however by using a boot disk from an older o/s like Windows 98 or Windows ME and dropping to DOS that way. |
Dude, you can format with the XP cd.....do you think I was telling him to format C: from within Windows?!?! Trying to get to your "DOS" through the C: prompt in Windows? Then format from there? Pretty tough to format a drive currently holding your OS which is fully in operation!!
Just insert the CD, go into the BIOS, select boot from CD, and away you go. This is what Jae was taking about. A format (in the formal sense) isn't necessary, because when you do a install "overtop" of an existing install, it does a "quick format" before proceeding. Using the same file system (NTFS) allows for a quick blast and a clean slate is there.
DOS isn't in the equation at all....heck, XP doesn't even use DOS. It's a command line parameter, which fools many people into thinking it's DOS, but that's just wrong terminology and thinking. |
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itaewonguy

Joined: 25 Mar 2003
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Posted: Mon Oct 18, 2004 3:50 am Post subject: |
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I have two os now.. I have XP PRO on my C drive..
and XP HOME korean on my d drive..
my c is messed up now..
so I will format and doa clean install..
I can just boot up the cd and do a format from there..
IM still confused on what you guys are talking about..
I didnt want to format my drive.. I wanted to fix it..
but this is not the case.. and yes you can format your drive in windows.
you just right mouse click on C:/ and click format! |
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itaewonguy

Joined: 25 Mar 2003
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Posted: Mon Oct 18, 2004 9:59 am Post subject: |
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400.000 for XP PRO!!!! OMG!!!
and I was seriously thinking about buying a legit copy so I dont have any problems in the future.. DAMN!!!
anyone got an original copy of XP PRO they can copy for me?? |
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The King of Kwangju

Joined: 10 Feb 2003 Location: New York City
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Posted: Mon Oct 18, 2004 11:32 am Post subject: |
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| I-guy: like the 'phobe said - format and clean install. |
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Demophobe

Joined: 17 May 2004
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Posted: Mon Oct 18, 2004 12:37 pm Post subject: |
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What would be the point of getting a copy of my legit WinXP pro? You would still need a bogus serial (giving you that would be foolish), and then you would be right back to where you are now....scrounging around for a functional serial number. I bought my copy in Canada for $320.00..not cheap, but a worthy investment. No worries about updates, which are an almost daily feature of WinXP.
The only way you can format C: in Windows is in a dual boot situation, where the OS you are in isn't on C:...that was my point. I guess you are indeed in this situations, or at least, in a situation where C: has no functional OS on it and has been rendered a slave drive. My bad...
So now you can't even access the other drive? Just because the OS won't boot up doesn't mean you shouldn't be able to get in there and retrieve the info you don't want to lose. That is the reason you want to repair and not format, I presume. If you have nothing on there to save, then just go for it and format. Actually, I'm not convinced there isn't a way to repair the installation. Perhaps you could elaborate on what happened/what you were doing when it crashed?
If the drive won't even open under the new OS, then there may be a physical problem? |
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Gregarious Monk
Joined: 13 Sep 2004 Location: Busan
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Posted: Mon Oct 18, 2004 1:00 pm Post subject: |
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Not sure if this will help you or not, but it's a fairly decent guide on how to correct problems with corrupt registry entries:
http://kadaitcha.cx/cannot_start_xp.html
The recovery console has a list of built-in commands, including chkdsk and format.
I know that there were a large number of installations of XP Corporate using keys from a key generator that function properly and will update to service pack 2. Do you already have a key for your installation?
You can check here for the range of installation keys that are prohibited for service pack 2:
http://www.mvps.org/marksxp/WindowsXP/SP2/common.php#sp2 |
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gajackson1

Joined: 27 Jan 2003 Location: Casa Chil, Sungai Besar, Sultanate of Brunei
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Posted: Mon Oct 18, 2004 8:54 pm Post subject: |
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In reference to the yong-san alley-tunnel vendors:
Yes, talk to them. Tell them you want this:
WinXP Home or Pro edition (whichever you prefer)
ENGLISH EDITION OEM ONLY.
You may have to try a few, and it should cost around 150,000 won.
The CORRECT disk will appear in the shrink wrap, with the manual, and have the holographic cover. Serial number & install info included.
Essentially, this is the disc that is SUPPOSED to be included with a new comp.
Hope that helps you - note that while not a stolen/hot disc, it IS only supposed to be sold bundled with a new comp. So, wrangle that out with your own morals/ethics . . .
Regards,
G. |
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itaewonguy

Joined: 25 Mar 2003
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Posted: Mon Oct 18, 2004 9:49 pm Post subject: |
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| Demophobe wrote: |
What would be the point of getting a copy of my legit WinXP pro? You would still need a bogus serial (giving you that would be foolish), and then you would be right back to where you are now....scrounging around for a functional serial number. I bought my copy in Canada for $320.00..not cheap, but a worthy investment. No worries about updates, which are an almost daily feature of WinXP.
The only way you can format C: in Windows is in a dual boot situation, where the OS you are in isn't on C:...that was my point. I guess you are indeed in this situations, or at least, in a situation where C: has no functional OS on it and has been rendered a slave drive. My bad...
So now you can't even access the other drive? Just because the OS won't boot up doesn't mean you shouldn't be able to get in there and retrieve the info you don't want to lose. That is the reason you want to repair and not format, I presume. If you have nothing on there to save, then just go for it and format. Actually, I'm not convinced there isn't a way to repair the installation. Perhaps you could elaborate on what happened/what you were doing when it crashed?
If the drive won't even open under the new OS, then there may be a physical problem? |
well I did a critical update from microsoft.. then I restarted my computer and it booted up fine.. but once I got to the the main window my icons all started flashing. and I couldnt click on anything couldnt do anything..
same thing happend in safe mode..
so I thought I would do a repair..
so I put in my disk and booted up into the disk..
then I selected recovvery but that wouldnt work..
then I tried a repair and that wouldnt work.. so I tried again..
and I did something I shouldnt of done I skipped a file it couldnt copy.
acually I skipped 3.. thinking that it wouldnt of completed if I didnt complete the task.. thinking to myself.. emmmm something is wrong here.. I cancelled it.. then tried to boot up again.. and thats when it wouldnt even allow me into the screen.. I know why that is..
so I tried my other Xp pro disk.. that didnt work..
so I tried to install FRESH on my D:/ with the same XP PRO disk I used originally and have never had problems with. even when I installed it on my mates pc about 2 months ago..
I tried to install.. and it wouldnt.. said couldnt copy NDIS.sys files or something.. and of course the FDC.SYS was corrputed on the repair too..
so that didnt work..
so I used my original XP HOME KOREAN version to install on my D:/ so I could get into my computer..
that worked fine.. so now I have two os's.. of course the XP doesnt work..
anyway I start to move everything off my C:/ and onto my D:/
then I try a format and clean install..
so I put in the disk.. and go to the options page.. FORMAT??
YES.. I format it..
then I try to install.. NO!! wont let me..
ok im like what ever.. I still have the D:/ with korean home on it..
try to boot up.. NO!!!
now im like WTF!!!
cant get in..
so I go to bios.. and make D:/ the master drive and try again..
NO!!!
now im like OMG!!!
so I swtich the drives back..
so I install the korean xp home on my c:/ drive..
YES Im in..
so now I have to of the same OS'S on my computer..
BUT I can only enter on my C:/ there is no option at start up
to enter on C:/ or D:/..
so here I am..
with a korean os which is giving me the S**ts..
and I couldnt get a partition on my C:/ for some reason..
DAMN!!
so I will get another illegit copy of XP PRO.. from my friend..
and reinstall that on my C:/ with a partition this time!!!
where is the partition option???
so I dont lose and have to spend 2 hours moving everything..
I have 200 gigs worth of stuff..
problem now is.. my D:/ has all the stuff with 120 gigs..
and my c:/ is only 80 gigs.. so trying to save everything is gonna be a mission.. hahahhah
so thats where I stand.. |
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Demophobe

Joined: 17 May 2004
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Posted: Tue Oct 19, 2004 1:24 am Post subject: |
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Jumpers on the HDD were switched as well then? You can't make a slave/master in the BIOS.
How can you save info on a formatted drive? You formatted C: but still have info on there to save?
Why did you do a critical update with a pirate copy? Why are you going to get yet another pirate copy?
Partitions are made at the beginning, or just use Partition Magic after the install.
Sorry, but I really don't clearly understand what happened. You typed a lot, but actually said little. Perhaps someone else can make sense of this.
It sounds like your CDs are bad and/or you have some physical HDD problem. Or doing the update frazzled your system...gosh....I have no idea. The first error was doing the update, but everything after that is just strange. Skipping files on an install is not good either....why was there a problem? Bad CD....? I guess you have a lot of experience with installing XP anyways. I'm sure you will sort it out.
If I were you I would just get a legit copy.....your time is worth something, isn't it? I have seen so many problems from pirate copies....problems I haven't had with my legit one. I do have a network edition that I gavfe to a couple of friends, but I know that they will go legit as soon as they can, as the serial for those copies may well be on the blacklist now as well.
Good luck! |
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