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phaedrus



Joined: 13 Nov 2003
Location: I'm comin' to get ya.

PostPosted: Thu Oct 28, 2004 3:45 am    Post subject: Proving Privates Reply with quote

How does immigration go about proving privates?

I mean since when has having English books and a Korean in your apartment been illegal? Or being in a Korean's apartment with English books?

Especially for people with a Korean spouse, there isn't even a money trail.
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the eye



Joined: 29 Jan 2004

PostPosted: Thu Oct 28, 2004 4:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

one guy that i knew, whom was busted, was dumb enough to do privates in an apartment complex. the guard kept a record of his visits.

i suppose this could be translated to any situation.
if someone knows your schedule or meeting place, they can report you. immi just has to show up at that place and that time to nab you.

another... was not 'caught' doing privates. he was here on a 3month tourist visa....working illegally. when he left the country to renew his visa, immigration did a check on his bank accounts in korea.

the guy couldn't explain why his bank account was growing, considering he didn't have a job...and he was given an exit order.


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J.B. Clamence



Joined: 15 Jan 2003

PostPosted: Thu Oct 28, 2004 5:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

From what I understand, Immigration doesn't really have to prove anything. When it comes to foreigners' rights here, there's not much in the way of due process. All the immigration guys have to do is say, "We're convinced that this guy is doing privates," and that's it, you're guilty. No proof necessary.
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JAMZ



Joined: 18 May 2004
Location: Ori Station, Bundang

PostPosted: Thu Oct 28, 2004 8:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

ok i know this has probably been covered before but can immigration nab you for teaching privates if you're not accepting money for it? like teaching english in exchange for korean lessons for example.
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J.B. Clamence



Joined: 15 Jan 2003

PostPosted: Thu Oct 28, 2004 8:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

JAMZ wrote:
ok i know this has probably been covered before but can immigration nab you for teaching privates if you're not accepting money for it? like teaching english in exchange for korean lessons for example.


As long as there's no money involved, it shouldn't be a problem.
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flutieflakes



Joined: 16 Mar 2003

PostPosted: Thu Oct 28, 2004 8:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

they cant prove a damn thing...........just have them send money to your account..........if anyone asks anything, just say it was a loan.......you people here so anal about privates are missing out so much............2 years, millions of won, many, many vacations...........apartments, give the man a box of oranges, that will keep him quiet for awhile..................flutieflakes speaks
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SuperHero



Joined: 10 Dec 2003
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 28, 2004 2:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

J.B. Clamence wrote:
As long as there's no money involved, it shouldn't be a problem.

there have been problems in the past for volunteer teaching so it could be a problem.
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I_Am_Wrong



Joined: 14 Sep 2004
Location: whatever

PostPosted: Thu Oct 28, 2004 3:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

basically anything that could potentially take business away from Hagwons.
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Gord



Joined: 25 Feb 2003

PostPosted: Thu Oct 28, 2004 5:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

flutieflakes wrote:
they cant prove a damn thing...........


They don't require proof, the only need that it's more likely than not to be true and even that's above what they need to issue an exit order. People being deported because the angry (ex)girlfriend made a phone call happens on a somewhat regular basis.

But unlike Singapore, they generally don't freeze your bank account when they kick you to the curb.
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Toby



Joined: 15 Jan 2003
Location: Wedded Bliss

PostPosted: Sun Oct 31, 2004 2:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

flutieflakes wrote:
they cant prove a damn thing...........just have them send money to your account..........if anyone asks anything, just say it was a loan.......you people here so anal about privates are missing out so much............2 years, millions of won, many, many vacations...........apartments, give the man a box of oranges, that will keep him quiet for awhile..................flutieflakes speaks


Great grammar there. Can I come to your school please?
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Grim Ja



Joined: 16 Jan 2003
Location: On the Beach

PostPosted: Sun Oct 31, 2004 6:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

How can you afford to live in Korea and Not teach privates?
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Toby



Joined: 15 Jan 2003
Location: Wedded Bliss

PostPosted: Sun Oct 31, 2004 7:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Grim Ja wrote:
How can you afford to live in Korea and Not teach privates?


Depends on the job really doesn't it?
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Real Reality



Joined: 10 Jan 2003
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Sun Oct 31, 2004 7:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Grim Ja wrote:
"How can you afford to live in Korea and Not teach privates?"

That is a good question?

Foreigners Experience Difficulties in Living in Korea
Overall living conditions, including education, housing, medical care, transportation, immigration, and access to the Internet are pointed to as inconveniences. Not only inconveniences caused by different systems and customs in Korea, but also special discriminating practices,...
by Jae-Dong Yu and Soo-Jung Shin (July 4, 2004)
http://english.donga.com/srv/service.php3?biid=2004070522448
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McNasty



Joined: 04 Jul 2003

PostPosted: Sun Oct 31, 2004 9:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Real Reality,

These comments are not a shot at you, I am mearly commenting on articles in general. While I appreciate the effort you put in by posting links to relevant articles, the articles are always the same. What I mean is a complaint is made by a foreigner and nothing is done about it. It's a never ending vicious circle.

Foreigners need to pool their money together and buy the country and rent it back to Koreans in order to make any necessary changes in a prompt manner. Laughing

It always comes back to culture differences. Koreans generally don't like to rock the boat but most foreigners demand change. So Koreans look at most foreigners as crap disturbers, and dismiss our occasionally legitimate complaints as unnecessary whining.
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kangnamdragon



Joined: 17 Jan 2003
Location: Kangnam, Seoul, Korea

PostPosted: Sun Oct 31, 2004 10:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Grim Ja wrote:
How can you afford to live in Korea and Not teach privates?


How do Koreans do it?
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