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crazylemongirl



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PostPosted: Thu Oct 28, 2004 8:27 pm    Post subject: haka = stunned silence Reply with quote

so I was doing this lesson on new zealand for my kids and I managed to find a clip online of the allblacks doing the haka against the Tongans. Now my boys usually have something to say about just everything but never before have I had a class sit in stunned silence after seeing taht.

Kind of made my day as the seeing that.
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mindmetoo



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PostPosted: Thu Oct 28, 2004 8:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Say could you translate that into North American english for us American media saturated types? Smile
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gajackson1



Joined: 27 Jan 2003
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 28, 2004 8:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

try it now, on your desk!

http://www.holstebro-rugby.dk/billedfolk/haka_how_to_perform.jpg

ex-winger,

G.
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Sliver



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PostPosted: Thu Oct 28, 2004 8:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

In action...Enjoy

http--www.rugbymuseum.co.nz-images-1997.wmv
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 28, 2004 9:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I once went to a Kiwi wedding in Ottawa. At 2 am and rather liquored-up, a "caller" well-versed in such things and all the males aged 8 to 80 stripped down to their waists and did the Haka.
Very impressive! Very Happy
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gypsyfish



Joined: 17 Jan 2003
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 29, 2004 1:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

When I was stationed in the Sinai with the Multinational Force and Observers, one of the countries represented was New Zealand. Every two months, when a new contingent of Aussies and Kiwis arrived, the Kiwis would go to the landing stip and perform a haka. Most impressive. As hot as it got at times, I felt sorry for the people standing on the tarmac barefooted.
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Manner of Speaking



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PostPosted: Fri Oct 29, 2004 6:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

crazylemongirl,

A few months go I taught "the Lion Sleeps Tonight" to about 300 elementary school students; I overdubbed the song onto the opening 10 minutes of the movie The Lion King and played it on the televisions in the school. They loved it!

I started researching haka as something 'next' to teach them...I wanted to ask, do you think it's appropriate to write a haka in English, and teach it to a group of elementary age kids? I'm Canadian, I don't know that much about NZ/Maori culture, I'm afraid. Embarassed
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crazykiwi



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PostPosted: Sun Oct 31, 2004 5:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Haha! some of us kiwi boys (and not so kiwi boys) used to do the haka at 3am down the pub, for a great laugh, and its a great stress releiver!

as to the question from manner of speaking. if you wanted to teach them the english translation AND the actions that go with the original haka, it wouldnt mix to well. just teach them both versions, i think the kids would love it considering the first couple of lines mean "you die you die, you live you live " or the other way round, cant remember. anyway, i say go hard.

side note. saw on k1 fighting (or one of those ones) a japanese fighter coming out to the song "pokarekare ana". I heard it was a big hit over these ways at some stage. very nice.
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Len8



Joined: 12 Feb 2003
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 31, 2004 7:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The Korean Version of Pokarekareana is in the norebongs. I forget the Korean name, but if you hummed it for the Koreans they would know what it is.

Was very popular, and it's often sung at those big musical gatherings that you see on TV. Everyone sings it too, so it's quite impressive.
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Manner of Speaking



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PostPosted: Sun Oct 31, 2004 9:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

crazykiwi wrote:
as to the question from manner of speaking. if you wanted to teach them the english translation AND the actions that go with the original haka, it wouldnt mix to well. just teach them both versions, i think the kids would love it considering the first couple of lines mean "you die you die, you live you live " or the other way round, cant remember. anyway, i say go hard

Ok thanks! Smile
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Medic



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PostPosted: Fri Nov 05, 2004 2:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I remember the Korean version for Poekarikari ana. Its "Biba rabi chi don Panda"
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jaganath69



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PostPosted: Fri Nov 05, 2004 10:49 pm    Post subject: Re: haka = stunned silence Reply with quote

crazylemongirl wrote:
so I was doing this lesson on new zealand for my kids and I managed to find a clip online of the allblacks doing the haka against the Tongans. Now my boys usually have something to say about just everything but never before have I had a class sit in stunned silence after seeing taht.

Kind of made my day as the seeing that.


Probably scared them more than it does the sheep! Laughing

Cheers

Jaga
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inexhile



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PostPosted: Sat Nov 06, 2004 10:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Pokarekare ana is a Korean song. it was appropriated by some Maori soldiers during the korean war. When confronted with this, Howard Morrison said "Well us fullahs are great borrowers aye".
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crazykiwi



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PostPosted: Sun Nov 07, 2004 5:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Quote:
Pokarekare ana is a Korean song. it was appropriated by some Maori soldiers during the korean war


Shocked Shocked

Just did a google search on it. The copyright of this song was placed upon it in 1926, so no, its not actually a korean song. The words tell a very distinct story about a guy asking his girlfriend to come back, all in Maori. The maori soldiers probably sung it here in korea, and THEY probably "borrowed" it for themselves. Who told you your version?
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inexhile



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PostPosted: Sun Nov 07, 2004 5:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

my drunk mate told me, there fore it must be true.
seriously, There was a special on arirang about 1 year ago. The whole show was about NZ. some korean friends watched it and were blown away to hear the tune. They told me it is a "very old" korean song. A kiwi mate told me that he'd seen Howie say that on a TV show about the issue. Don't know what show, it was in NZ.
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