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Cedar



Joined: 11 Mar 2003
Location: In front of my computer, again.

PostPosted: Sun Oct 31, 2004 7:22 am    Post subject: Stupid Questions.... Reply with quote

Actually this cracked me up for the past two days, but I get variations all the time:

I am in grad school, I do my research in Korean. Now that I am studying, I have to read books in Korean on a frequent basis...

So, I am taking the bus to Daegu and we are the rest area. The inside of the bus was really hot (putting me to sleep), so at the rest stop I decided to sit outside the bus in the nice fall sunshine and read.

Man comes and looks over my shoulder.

Man: (in English) "Can you read Korean?"
Me: (looking at him and waiting for him to realize the lack of logic in his question)
Man: (in English) "Can you speak Korean?"
Me: (still staring at the man)
Man: (startled) "Wait, are you Korean?"
Me: (shaking my dark blond haired head with large eyes and freckles)(in English) "No, I am just looking at the book but can't understand anything."
Man: (in English) "Korean is a very hard language."
Me: (in Korean) "Really, do you think I wouldn't be able to speak or read and I'd be sitting here making notes in the margins?"
Man: (in Korean) "Oh, sorry, excuse me, uhh, sorry."

What about the rest of you (who speak and read Korean decently), any funny stories?
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ThePoet



Joined: 15 May 2004
Location: No longer in Korea - just lurking here

PostPosted: Sun Oct 31, 2004 4:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm no rocket surgeon, but by the looks of that conversation, he was trying to start a conversation with you probably to get to know you better...He might have been shy and it was the first thing he could think of.

I remember about 20 years ago I was at a movie and there was a really beautiful girl in front of me at the refreshment line. She was looking back a lot and smiling. I was way too shy to even say boo. When she got to the front of the cue, she looked back and down and said "Oh I see you have a bus pass too". My brilliant come back: "Uh huh" and then I proceeded to order my snacks. -- sigh.

Poet
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jajdude



Joined: 18 Jan 2003

PostPosted: Sun Oct 31, 2004 4:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nice post poet.

Ralph Wiggam (or is it Milhouse) has a crush on Lisa Simpson, so one day he says, "'So, do you like... stuff?"

We have all been there I think, when it comes to "wannabes" missed.
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marista99



Joined: 05 Jun 2004
Location: Incheon

PostPosted: Sun Oct 31, 2004 5:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I like that..."Wait, are you Korean?"

Definitely never had anyone ask me that!
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shakuhachi



Joined: 08 Feb 2003
Location: Sydney

PostPosted: Sun Oct 31, 2004 5:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Cedar wrote:
What about the rest of you (who speak and read Korean decently), any funny stories?


Hey, watch out or people will think you are showing off (not me).
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Circus Monkey



Joined: 10 Jan 2003
Location: In my coconut tree

PostPosted: Sun Oct 31, 2004 8:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ThePoet wrote:
I'm no rocket surgeon, but by the looks of that conversation, he was trying to start a conversation with you probably to get to know you better...He might have been shy and it was the first thing he could think of.

I remember about 20 years ago I was at a movie and there was a really beautiful girl in front of me at the refreshment line. She was looking back a lot and smiling. I was way too shy to even say boo. When she got to the front of the cue, she looked back and down and said "Oh I see you have a bus pass too". My brilliant come back: "Uh huh" and then I proceeded to order my snacks. -- sigh.

Poet


Perhaps. But then again, have you ever been bothered with a thousand questions when you are just sitting on the bus trying to mind your own business? Don't take this the wrong way, Poet, but some days a person doesn't feel like fielding questions from complete strangers all the time.
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intergalactic



Joined: 19 May 2003
Location: Brisbane

PostPosted: Sun Oct 31, 2004 9:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have a Canadian friend who is married to a Korean man. They have 10 month old twins. One twin looks asian, one looks caucasian. My friend told me that in Canada, people would approach her and ask about the babies. When they heard the babies were twins, they sometimes asked "Are they identical?"
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Circus Monkey



Joined: 10 Jan 2003
Location: In my coconut tree

PostPosted: Mon Nov 01, 2004 4:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've had Koreans walk up to me while I'm with my son and blurt out "Mi-gook baby!" You're right. Ignorance can be found everywhere.
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J.B. Clamence



Joined: 15 Jan 2003

PostPosted: Mon Nov 01, 2004 7:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

It sounds to me like the guy was curious how you learned Korean well enough to read a book, so he wanted to strike up a conversation and didn't know how else to start it (Kind of like how someone might say, "Wow, it's pretty cold, isn't it?" when it's -20). Maybe his ice-breaker wasn't worded the best way, but that doesn't make him an idiot. IMHO, you handled it pretty rudely. He was just trying to be friendly.
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Cedar



Joined: 11 Mar 2003
Location: In front of my computer, again.

PostPosted: Mon Nov 01, 2004 7:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

JB,

I don't think that was rude, I waited for him to figure out what he was saying didn't compute... I could have said something rude, but all I did was make a remark that could be interpreted as funny "No I am just looking at it" and he took me seriously and said that Korean was a hard language (no argument from me on that count). I mean, this guy seriously believed I was just sitting around staring intently at a book and marking things in the margin...

I've said "No I am just looking at the book" in the past to other Koreans and they've gotten the joke in it and laughed.
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cheem



Joined: 18 Apr 2003

PostPosted: Mon Nov 01, 2004 8:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Cedar wrote:
I mean, this guy seriously believed I was just sitting around staring intently at a book and marking things in the margin...

Going by your dialogue, I think the guy knew you could read Korean.

I get "conversation starters" like these once in a while. They never make sense but I just go with them. I figure it's that, or I can make a sarcastic remark, make the person feel stupid, give them one more painful memory for the day, and make myself look like an ass.

Not saying you did any of these things, but would it have been that much harder just to say, "Yeah"?

I'm an apologist, btw.
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Cedar



Joined: 11 Mar 2003
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 01, 2004 2:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It comes down to this... we all see people on the subway or bus or other random "waiting" places reading English books (often ones that are obviously for language aquisition) and not one of us would ever consider asking the person "Can you read English?" Of course they can.

I can't see as how this would be a legitimate conversational opener. Why not? Because when I am reading something in Korean, lots of other Koreans have looked over my shoulder and then asked me in Korean something along the line of "Are you studying ___subject of book__?" or "Is that book interesting?"
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cheem



Joined: 18 Apr 2003

PostPosted: Mon Nov 01, 2004 3:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Cedar wrote:
not one of us would ever consider asking the person "Can you read English?" Of course they can.

This is a poor analogy because English is a ubiquitous language. It's far more common, you'd agree, to see a white person reading an English book than a Korean book.

You mentioned that you get variations of this all the time. Do you honestly believe these people think you're holding a book to your face just for kicks, or can you accept that they might be trying to kickstart some smalltalk? I tend to think the latter.
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anae



Joined: 13 May 2003
Location: cowtown

PostPosted: Mon Nov 01, 2004 3:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

When my Korean husband and I were dating, we had a waitress ask us if we were brother and sister. I guess that would make me the albino member of the family. Laughing
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casey's moon



Joined: 14 Sep 2004
Location: Daejeon

PostPosted: Mon Nov 01, 2004 4:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Anae, that was obviously the person having no idea how to ask if what your relationship was and going about it the dumbest (and funniest) way ever!!! I can't believe how many people just go ahead and ask what relationship my husband and I are... so bold, but they can't help it because they are sooo curious.

I don't think Cedar was rude at all, considering the fact that the person who approached her was actually quite rude to interrupt her without apologising in the first place. If someone needs my help, it's fine for them to interrupt me while I'm reading or studying on the subway, but if they just want to satisfy their own curiousity, it's plain rude. During my first and even second year here, I would always go out of my way to make anyone who tried to talk to me feel comfortable, even if I had something else I needed to do. But now that Korea is my (possibly) permanent home, I have realized that I also need to feel comfortable and need to be treated with respect, like any other person who calls Korea home. I'm still very polite to anyone who approaches me in an appropriate and polite manner, but interrupting me while I'm busy to ask an incredibly stupid and unnecessary question is NOT polite or appropriate.
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