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[khyber]

I'm currently doing the Atkins diet in Korea.

I kinda love it. I have done it for 14 days and lost 15lbs (not unhealthy).
Simply it's this: The diet limits your carbs (the first thing your body digests in foods), and then starts to burn fat instead.
So, you have to limit your carbs to about 20g a day (while you want to lose weight).

Good things to eat:
Meat (ANY kind save oysters and organ meat...[damn!])
Cheese (about 100g a day...a LOT)
cream
about 3cups of vegetables
all herbs are fine

Bad things to eat:
fruit
rice pasta
ANY grains
ANY (save for VERY moderate amounts of nuts)
NO sugars or anything sweet (honey, corn syrup etc...)

It's a bit hard in korea unless you're a HUGE fan of Sam gyup sal...but i mean huge (or bulgogi, or galbi, or oh ri....)
but if you can't live without at LEAST fruit rice and pasta....there's trouble.

It's kinda hard being REALLY conscious of how much sugar your taking in

I have been doing virtually no excercise during my first 2 weeks. My second two weeks i'm kicking it up. So we'll see how it works.

some bad things that can happen:
1) Constipation; of course, with no grains fruit and limited vegetables, while in the weight loss ("induction") phase, you don't get much fibre. Having a good digestive tract will be of benefit to you
psyllium mixed with water is said to help. I don't know if metamucil would work b/c of the carb count.


2) Lack of vitamins and minerals: Some are simply not met b/c of the lack of certain foods being eaten. Personally, I just got my first leg cramp last night and i'd bet they'll be a bit regular.
This can be solved by taking SUPPLEMENTS!



I wonder:
1) IS anyone else doing Atkins in Korea?
2) Do you have some recipes that uise things like that

If anyone else is interested in this, I'd love to hear what you gotta say.

[Zyzyfer]

I've got an alcoholic friend from Texas who came back spouting this Atkins business. To see this dude who used to require being drunk to get to sleep at night complain about sugar is funny as hell.

I'm dabbling in it in a basic sort of manner, but it's a really hard diet to have in Korea.

[The Den]

Hi, I've been doing sort of a modified version of Atkins. I do the really low carb thing and it has worked well for me. I have not eaten any bread, pasta, rice, fruit or anything like that for the past 6 weeks. I have lost 10 kg so far. I have also been doing quite a lot of exercise. The exercise thing was not new for me but this is the first time I have changed my diet so aggressivley. I am currently in a weight lifting phase of my exercise program and I have been noticing the results. I read the Atkins book and there are recipes in that. However I do not know of any off hand. Atkins does have a web site. You may also want to check out
[url]fitday.com[/url] it is a site that lets you keep track of your carbohydrates, protein and fat and it makes nice pie charts. It is really easy to use. You may also want to check out the weight loss forums at [url]Menshealth.com[/url] they have inspired me immensly, and one more site while I am at it [url]nutritiondata.com[/url]

[Ryst Helmut]

Yep, Zyz and I talked about the Atkins approach (no I am not that drunk.), and I'll say this:

Atkins sucks big-time in Korea. I have read so much on this, and do understand Phase 1-4 (as my family has been doing it for years, and I, well...still a lard hass).

The method works, no doubt about it. And your 15 lb loss is standard, I lost about 8kgs the first 2 weeks or so, but the lifestyle is what kills.

Based on US communities, there are plentiful health food stores to keep you on track for such a lifestyle (Phase 2-4). Korea? Bugger!

Shipping to Korea? Have you seen the costs? Oh, wait...they don't ship to Korea!

I already have exhausted myself, thus my psuedo-tirade will dissipate into blubber (no pun intended).

Shoosh,

r yst

[eamo]

I was on Atkins strictly at home and lost about 6kgs. (I wasn't much overweight in the first place)

Of course it's a lot harder in Korea as you don't shop as well here. Especially if you can't read half the labels!!!

Basically, if you're not too worried about your fat intake then stick to meat, cheese and eggs. There's tons of great stuff you can make with those three. (omelette anyone?) I'm a real carnivore and cheese lover so Atkins fairly is easy for me. I really miss bread though, but, as we know, most bread in Korea sucks!!

I think corn is low-carb so I eat lots of tins of Green Giant!!

[BTM]

Diets are for people who aren't very clever, or are desperate.

Eat well, eat natural, eat from all food groups, in moderation, get exercise, and you will eventually get to a healthy point, and can tone and build muscles from there.

The faster you lose weight, the worse it will be for your body, and the likelier it will be that you'll gain it back.

Why are people so farking stupid? I despair sometimes.

[eamo]

[Harpeau]

I did Atkins for the month of August and lost about 5kg. It was good. Now, my metabolism is a bit faster and am feeling much more energised. Today, I sort of follow Atkins a little. I'm taking these nutritional weight loss pills that are interesting. I'm also working out irregularily. I like Atkins, but my breath reeks so badly when I'm on it.

Cheers!
Harpeau

[eamo]

[BTM]

[eamo]

[desultude]

BTM said:

[khyber]

hey btm.

what do you call "balanced"?

i'm guessing you don't know Atkins. Phase 4 of Atkins IS balanced, but you have to get to that phase by first controlling your carbs....THUS the severe intake of them at the start.
You have to put your metabolism (and your insulin and glucagon levels) BACK where it should be HENCE this crazy first phase. AFter that, you slowly try to find what is balanced.
It's not a matter of just "jumping into a balanced diet".

besides, in phase 1 of atkins you don't have to eat "in moderation"...you just have to eat the right foods...and you can eat more than "in moderation" (though that terms is just as "farking stupid" as what you seem to despair over).


before you bash something, have at LEAST the first clue.

and what if i were desperate...or i wanted the change faster? and how the *beep* do you know what i was eating before Atkins. I'd wager my diet was virtually the same as yours.

so please spare the selfrighteousness for something you know
unless you've been overweight and have a clue
yeah, i think my other phases will be a bit similar...but i'm gonna start drinking some fruit juice because i miss juice a heaps.

[weatherman]

[khyber]

W.M.

1/2 cup of rice approx 22.1g
1slice white bread 14.1g
potato (now...i may be off here)...what they called one sweet potato back home: (i think it was) 17g

check out the levels at
www.atkins.comthere is a carb counter..


Also, i feel like a bit of a jerk. I should have noted that the "Atkins Diet" isn't really called that by Dr atkins himself. He calls it a lifestyle.
Although i would say phase 1 of Atkins IS a diet....to "be on Atkins" is supposedly a lifetime thing. Although to claime that healthy eating has orginated from Atkins himself is a bit ridiculous.

also, if you read his book you'd see that there is a LOT of criticism over the current "food intake" suggestions (the 6-8servings of milk....8-10 servings of grains or whatever). He thinks (and if you read the book you may agree) that this is a big problem with obesity. HAmburgers are fine, but the bun is what's makin you fat (unless your carb intake is too high).
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