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[Beageal]

I'm using the same laptop that's allowed me to send & receive from across Canada, but here in Bundang it just doesn't work right. I still receive perfectly fine, but I can't send, except to my separate email accounts, all of which use the same Canadian host. I think it may have something to do with the mail server, but I don't know what to do about it. I use the same mail.look.ca for both incoming and outgoing, but only outgoing has the problem. In trying to find a solution for this, I read that there can be issues sending email from some Korean servers which have been universally blocked due to their high spam flow, but would that affect me? If anyone's had this same problem, and has a ny suggestions, I's definitely appreciate some help.

[the saint]

I had the same issue. I was using an email supplied by Thrunet which had a @korea.com extension. It turned out that spam filters were swallowing my emails because my friend's ISPs had blacklisted Thrunet. I discovered this because some, though not all ISPs generated a message about this. Others simply vanished though. I evnetually ditched the email altogether.

Might not be the same issue with your account but I thought it might help to know...

[Sage Monkey]

PM me with your email address and I will give you a Gmail invite. Go to www.gmail.com and check out why you should accept my offer.

[Demophobe]

Go here to find out why gmail should be used very selectively and carefully.

http://gmail-is-too-creepy.com/

[the saint]

Sure, what demo refers us to is obvious to anyone who uses a third party to host their email.

What is even more creepy though is that people never thought of this risk before gmail came along. Strikes me as naive to think the same cannot be said of Hotmail, Yahoo or any other online web-based email service...

Imagine the day the first person is in trouble with authorities based on info in their gmail account. Google would be shunned overnight! Talk about justice!

[Demophobe]

Well, I agree to a point. The problem lies in that Gmail explicitly says that they will do many things with your mail....it's right in the agreement. The same terms are not found in Hotmail or Yahoo, and thus anything they do glean from an account is technically a breach of contract, or, a.k.a., cannot be used against you in the same way Gmail-based findings can.

The fact that they don't state it outright doesn't mean they don't do it, it simply affords us a legal out if one should need it. Also, it means that the watchdog groups (and there are many) would be keeping a close eye out for signs of scanning, targeting, submission to higher authorities, etc by other web-based mail systems. If this 'scanning' turns up in web-based accounts that don't state in the terms of use that the host will indulge in this type of activity, they will be guilty, before even a user in violation of the public law. This type of evidence could easily be inadmissable in court as well.

Additionally, although we are all commercially targeted (MS admitted turning over e-mail addys for advertising revenue), we aren't scanned for keywords. This is a very important part of the Gmail thing. Of course, no human is pouring over your e-mails, but a program as efficient as the Google engine itself at zoning in on things...even scarier than a human, if you ask me.

I don't really buy into this stuff so deeply...I still have and use my Gmail account. It's just food for thought and as knowledge is power, we should be in the know about this. It is after all, our personal correspondance that they are browsing.

[mindmetoo]

I had this problem with a Canadian ISP while living in Seattle. A mail server is two components: a server that stores and forward emails to you (pop3) and a server that receives and fowards emails from you (SMTP).

Sending you your emails is no problem. No one can wreck the Internet reading the dirty little emails people send you.

However, allowing unknown or suspicious IP net blocks having access to the SMTP server can be dangerous as spammers can hack into the system and use it to blast out massive amounts of spam. Given Korea is ground zero in the war on spam, it's not surprising a lot of North American ISP would block access to their SMTP server from a known Korean net block.

If you want to send, you might have to call your ISP and figure out a workaround.

[Beageal]

Thanks for the thought, all. I emailed my old Canadian ISP and they told me the problem and what to do. It was simply the fact that your outgoing mail server has to be that of your current ISP. Now my only problem is finding out my Korea ISP's mail server. My school set it up for me, and the receipt's entirly in Korean. Though I do know the company name: it's ABN; they do the cable and the internet here. And I have found the website www.abn.co.kr, but it, too, is entirely unreadable to me. Anybody have any thoughts on how I could find out what their mail server is (other than the obvious get my school to call them and find out)?