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katydid



Joined: 02 Feb 2003
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 10, 2004 6:27 am    Post subject: Punishment Methods In Class Reply with quote

CLG's post got me thinking.

The one way I make my unruly classes settle down is through writing lines. What can I say, I teach girls. I don't have them hold up their desks. Smile

Will I make myself look like a sadist if I ask what other punishment methods in the classroom have you found to work?
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justagirl



Joined: 17 Jan 2003
Location: Cheonan/Portland

PostPosted: Wed Nov 10, 2004 6:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

up-downs. They hold their earlobes with their fingers and do squats. No cheating allowed--only full squats count, and if someone is trying to go fast, they get stopped and have to do it in unison with everyone else.
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sistersarah



Joined: 03 Jan 2004
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 10, 2004 7:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

all my students know my rule: study first, if a good job is done, a game will follow. kids that misbehave or kids who were late (for an inexcusable reason) don't get to play the game. they sit at the back and write lines. simple but effective. they don't like writing the lines and they don't like being left out of the game while they can see everyone having fun.
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oneiros



Joined: 19 Aug 2003
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 10, 2004 7:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm a total non-physical punishment person. Time outs and writing lines work for me. Plus I have the really scary teacher stare perfected.
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travelinbri



Joined: 23 Mar 2003

PostPosted: Wed Nov 10, 2004 12:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Lots of things work, having kids stand up and sit down can be a game that they get into b ut also makes them shut up, it is always good to put kids in a position where their peers put pressure on them to stop acting out... also the old you dont need a chairt for the rest of the period is always decent.
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paperbag princess



Joined: 07 Mar 2004
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 10, 2004 6:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

i make my older boys do real push-ups after 3 xs, most of them need the exercise anyway. Very Happy

the younger kids i use a positive reinforcement system, which really works. i write the class name on the board and then: 1, 2, 3. the numbers represent their stamps for the day. everyone gets 3 stamps at the end of class as long as no one breaks any of the 5 rules (no korean, be good, raise your hand, be quiet when the teacher is talking, and no telling). the kids self patrol each other ususally end up with 3 stamps for their stamp paper. i'm happy and their happy! it works because they already have their reward and it's up to them to keep it.
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Grotto



Joined: 21 Mar 2004

PostPosted: Wed Nov 10, 2004 8:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Laughing In my utopian classroom it is my dream to have each student wear a collar....similar to the ones vets use to stop dogs from uncontrollable barking. Wink Twisted Evil

Twisted Evil Only difference would be I would have a remote with various settings Wink Laughing

Level 1: ouch! okay teacher I will stop talking and pay attention

Level 2: AAhhhh sorry teacher sorry Laughing

Level 3: dance mailman dance! Laughing Laughing

On the flip side instead of saying Kugae (louder) all the time it could also be used to make them speak louder Wink

Damn these draconian human rights activists Wink
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crazylemongirl



Joined: 23 Mar 2003
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 10, 2004 8:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have a whole bunch of methods for controlling classes. It depends on the level personality of the class. . Obviously I would like to use more postive reinforcement techniques but a) I ahve 40 students in a class b) I see them once a week. My punishment techniques are very age group specific as I teach teenage boys at a public school

If you sleep in my class then I draw hearts on your face with marker pen.

I use this with a number of first year classes I say 'gatchida attention' then the kids say it. I say it back until everyone is saying it and then we move on.

Fingers. I ask for quiet counting down the times on fingers. If it gets to zero everyone puts their hands up and we have 10 seconds of queit and hands up.

Individuals it's the love hearts. My students abousoultley hate doing those stupid love heart arms infront of their peers. They get two chances. Once they go to the back of the room. Next time it's out.

If the kids are sent out. Then they lose their break and have to do love hearts in the teachers room. The homeroom teacher sees them, then they get in trouble. This is really effective for classes who have gym class after english class cause the kids will be late for gym class and the gym teacher will kill them. Or they are required to make up the work after school on their knees in the staffroom.

Plus minutes. If it's a class I'm having trouble with I will start adding minutes to the lesson if i have to wait for them to be queit. Yes it's intailly a punishment for me too, but the pay offs have been great.

Other times I will speak very softly so they wonder what I am saying.

I think the key to having well discplined classes is in general to have well discplined lessons. That means that things have to be well organised and planned out. I find that for my boys any activity shoouldn't last more than about 10 minutes or they get bored and cllassroom management becomes more diffcult.
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matthewwoodford



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PostPosted: Wed Nov 10, 2004 9:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I think the key to having well discplined classes is in general to have well discplined lessons. That means that things have to be well organised and planned out. I find that for my boys any activity shoouldn't last more than about 10 minutes or they get bored and cllassroom management becomes more diffcult.



I think this is totally right. You've got to keep the lesson pacy and vary activities. I also think banning Korean cuts down on a lot of behaviour problems, and that's a rule they will self enforce.
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d503



Joined: 16 Oct 2004
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 11, 2004 1:40 am    Post subject: so funny Reply with quote

I don't really have much to add but Grotto's post made me laugh so hard. I just got back from two heavily wound classes (I now hate peppero day) and i have a pleasant image of zapping those kids silly. Very Happy
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peemil



Joined: 09 Feb 2003
Location: Koowoompa

PostPosted: Thu Nov 11, 2004 2:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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In my utopian classroom it is my dream to have each student wear a collar....similar to the ones vets use to stop dogs from uncontrollable barking.

Only difference would be I would have a remote with various settings

Level 1: ouch! okay teacher I will stop talking and pay attention

Level 2: AAhhhh sorry teacher sorry

Level 3: dance mailman dance!

On the flip side instead of saying Kugae (louder) all the time it could also be used to make them speak louder

Damn these draconian human rights activists


Brilliant. I love this. "Dance Mailman dance!"
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I_Am_Wrong



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PostPosted: Thu Nov 11, 2004 3:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

from a purely psychological perspective, writing lines is bad bad bad. You want to encourage good behaviour and you want the students to enjoy learning English. Using a dreadful task in the learning target (writing lines) is only going to make kids hate learning English.

If it's one or two students I do the stand at the back of the room and put your hands on your head. If the student is being really bad I threaten to send them out of the classroom (I work in Public Elementary and the kids don't want to be sent out of the classroom for the life of them).

If the class is just being too noisy or I need to get their attention then I have two things I do:
1) I say "look at me" the kids draw a circle to one eye, draw a circle to the other eye and then push their hands out towards me while saying "Look, Look, Look at me" I then have their full attention.

2) I say "stop" and they pat their knees, clap their hands twice, raise their fists while saying "stop, stop, stop, attention" I then have their full attention.

In general positive behaviour works the best and using their peers as reinforcement will do wonders. If a student gives a good answer then I give a compliment (very good, fantastic etc.) Everyone claps twice, repeats my compliment and points their thumbs toward the student who answered correctly. Works like a charm.
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captain kirk



Joined: 29 Jan 2003

PostPosted: Sun Nov 14, 2004 5:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Peppero Day lots of students were hyper. I asked how they felt, 'dizzy' and nauseous. But at the same time rarin' to go. The adult equivalent of being hungover and fighting back with coffee. Head swimmin' round and round, full of crapulous thoughts.
Well Curtis and Jason were stuffin' dried ramyon covered with that spice powder into their maws when I stomped in. So I got them to stand holding chairs over their heads. They're what, 12, but runty. For the moment. After ten minutes of that Jason was either pretending or for real, lolling with his head entirely back, or forward, like his chicken neck had been broken. He rested the chair on his head instead of holding it up with his scrawny arms. I promised everyone that a new regime was upon them, and a day would come when they could easily, bit by bit, strengthen their young bodys' limitless capacity for growing strength. A day when holding up two, or three chairs would be childs play.
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hellofaniceguy



Joined: 10 Jan 2003
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 14, 2004 5:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'll tell you what has worked for me....and still does. When one student acts up....I have the entire class raise their arms holding chairs, books or whatever except the student who was bad. Of have the entire class stand against the wall with their noses touching the wall...except the bad student. He/she gets to sit and eat candy and laugh.
Let me tell you....the bad students learn real quick like to behave! The other students hate being punished for someone else and when class is over...."talk" to the bad student outside....behind the building...away from people!
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