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jajdude



Joined: 18 Jan 2003

PostPosted: Sun Dec 19, 2004 8:15 pm    Post subject: Should I take this job..? Reply with quote

It all seems OK, the boss seemed nice enough, but he wants the foreign teachers to work Saturdays, 2-6. The schedule still adds up to about 25-30 classes per week (45 minute classes), so it isn't a real heavy load, it's just not having Saturdays all free, and going to the "office" 6 out of 7 days can be a drag. The pay is 2 million. I think if he said 2.2 or 2.3 I'd be more willing to say "sure". Maybe I'll ask for 2.2 and see if he'll go for it. The previous teacher just bailed on him a few days ago, so he may be in a tough position to say no to a request for higher pay.

If it weren't for the Saturdays, I wouldn't hesitate...
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manlyboy



Joined: 01 Aug 2004
Location: Darwin, Northern Territory, Australia

PostPosted: Sun Dec 19, 2004 8:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Besides the previous teacher, how many others have "just bailed on him"? More than a few means big red flag time.
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jajdude



Joined: 18 Jan 2003

PostPosted: Mon Dec 20, 2004 1:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well, he said she was the first to do that.
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trevorcollins



Joined: 02 Jul 2004

PostPosted: Mon Dec 20, 2004 2:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

6 days a week for 2 mil ? Yuck. Keep looking.
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jajdude



Joined: 18 Jan 2003

PostPosted: Mon Dec 20, 2004 3:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well I'd like to but really want to start asap. Could risk giving up a good one...
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casey's moon



Joined: 14 Sep 2004
Location: Daejeon

PostPosted: Mon Dec 20, 2004 3:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I agree with trevorcollins. You can definitely find something for 2 million for 5 days a week.
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hellofaniceguy



Joined: 10 Jan 2003
Location: On your computer screen!

PostPosted: Mon Dec 20, 2004 4:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Why? Why do it!? Why start setting a precedent by working Saturdays! Are you that desperate for a job? If so��you��re in the wrong profession.
If you get two days off during the week��well then OK. But a six day work week? It does not matter if the work load is easy or not!
Pretty soon other hakwons will want teachers to work on the weekends also.
Stay away��and look elsewhere. But��judging from your post��.you��ll do it. And that��s a shame.
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Daechidong Waygookin



Joined: 22 Nov 2004
Location: No Longer on Dave's. Ive quit.

PostPosted: Mon Dec 20, 2004 4:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

jajdude wrote:
Well I'd like to but really want to start asap. Could risk giving up a good one...


Cmon. You wont be passing up a good one. Saturdays for 2 mil?! You can find a better job within a week.
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Son Deureo!



Joined: 30 Apr 2003

PostPosted: Mon Dec 20, 2004 4:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Tell him you'll do it if there are no Saturdays. It's not worth it, especially for the lousy 2 mil. You need a full two days off a week if you're going to have any kind of life outside of work.
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captain kirk



Joined: 29 Jan 2003

PostPosted: Mon Dec 20, 2004 5:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Aw, man, the going in. Boss seems like a nice enough guy and yet something is wrong, a little bit wrong, with working Saturdays, isn't it? I worked Sundays for three hours this last job and got, without asking for it, 25,000 an hour. The management knew it was asking alot. But it was besides/on top a six hour block M-F.
He knows, the boss, you're leaking money looking and want to hustle into job, but bargain a little if you can. Get something for that Saturday work, a bit more. He's needing something since someone just bailed. Yon haggie owner figures f-teachers are just shluffing around in their pajamas, and they're doing them a favour. Uh-uh, there's that '40% of the job is class management' and the kids don't really want to be there.
He might be thinking, or say, that he doesn't know whether you're going to work hard, with energy. Maybe you can work something out. That doesn't leave you feeling you've sold yourself short to get landed quick. A year's a long time.
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ThePoet



Joined: 15 May 2004
Location: No longer in Korea - just lurking here

PostPosted: Mon Dec 20, 2004 5:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

jajdude wrote:
Well I'd like to but really want to start asap. Could risk giving up a good one...


Listen...My boss just advertised a great job last week. its 1.9 but believe me -- that extra 100 thou is not going to help you keep your sanity when you always feel burned out. If you want a "good one" email me for the details.

Poet
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fidel



Joined: 07 Feb 2003
Location: North Shore NZ

PostPosted: Mon Dec 20, 2004 3:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Ryst Helmut



Joined: 26 Apr 2003
Location: In search of the elusive signature...

PostPosted: Mon Dec 20, 2004 5:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

jajdude wrote:
Well, he said she was the first to do that.


That's like asking your girlfriend how many men she's slept with!

What's the rule? Numbered answer Xs 5 = closer to true amount?


!shoosh

Ryst
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rapier



Joined: 16 Feb 2003

PostPosted: Tue Dec 21, 2004 1:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Look at the whole picture: advantages v disadvantages. You may work saturdays, but you may also have a good workplace atmosphere, good syllabus, live close to work, get paid reliably on time, etc etc.
On the other hand, you could get a M-F job for more cash, but suddenly find the boss is satan and he scr*ws you as much as he possibly can.
Its hard to tell...
If you've left yourself short of money arriving here, then you may have to take the first thing that comes up and get on with it.
Are you American? Because many Americans /Canadians go on like 2.3 is a normal base pay.
Try being Kiwi or south african, or any other nationality- we don't get a pay rise for our passport like they do..
Just do what you feel. This board is full of people boasting they get paid the earth for 2 hours a week or whatever. Its balls.Make up your own mind.. I'd rather have 2.0 than 2.1 if it means I get a proper organised syllabus and reliable boss.
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Wishmaster



Joined: 06 Feb 2003

PostPosted: Tue Dec 21, 2004 7:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Back in Korea, eh? What happened to all the good money that could be made in Vietnam or whatever? Anyhow, the director says that one person has done the run. That isn't a good sign and should tell you a little about how things work around there. She says only one person has bolted, but how do you really know? If she is as desperate as you say she is, she might be trying to cover her ass by lying and saying anything to get you to sign. Saturdays? With all of the freakin' jobs in Korea....why, oh why, would you work on Saturday? Not me...I'm not Korean. I like my weekends free and easy......
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