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Derrek
Joined: 15 Jan 2003
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 Posted: Thu Dec 23, 2004 7:01 pm Post subject: Degree-checking soon to become reality for teachers |
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Some of you know that I have been looking into this, and just to let you know...
My Korean co-worker said that there is an office being formed that will start checking the legitimacy of foreigner degrees. Has anyone else seen this in the news? He heard it from the Kyonngi-do people. Not sure if it will be involving immigration or what yet, but sounds like it's definately not just Kyonngi-do. I didn't get many details, and will press for more. My co-workers were discussing it.
After the Konkuk University embarrasment, there is a big push for this (not sure who is doing the pushing).
Anyway, my co-worker said that they intend to be very strict about it -- sounded like Taiwan.
Personally, I'm all for it, and I think it's great. I have a feeling that MANY foreigners here teach with fake degrees. Getting rid of them can only make the job pool tighter, and perhaps raise salaries for others with legal degrees. |
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Daechidong Waygookin
Joined: 22 Nov 2004
Location: No Longer on Dave's. Ive quit.
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| Posted: Thu Dec 23, 2004 7:26 pm Post subject: |
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| AWESOME! Something I called for in another thread. Please, check my degree and check everyone else's. Time to kick out the illegals, improve the conditions and the reputation of all those who are here legally. |
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thorin
Joined: 14 Apr 2003
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| Posted: Thu Dec 23, 2004 7:32 pm Post subject: |
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| Great idea but I think if there was really a new national policy it would be announced by someone other than Derrek from Dave's ESL Cafe. |
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katydid
Joined: 02 Feb 2003
Location: Here kitty kitty kitty...
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| Posted: Thu Dec 23, 2004 7:35 pm Post subject: |
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This is a good step. Checking for college degrees, that makes sense.
There are other countries who insist you send them a high school transcript, as well, indicating you both took and passed high school English.
Asking for that, in conjuction with your college degree and transcripts, that *doesn't* make sense, but I suppose if it's the law of the land, then ya gotta do what ya gotta do. |
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katydid
Joined: 02 Feb 2003
Location: Here kitty kitty kitty...
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| Posted: Thu Dec 23, 2004 7:36 pm Post subject: |
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| thorin wrote: |
| Great idea but I think if there was really a new national policy it would be announced by someone other than Derrek from Dave's ESL Cafe. |
Like who? Real Reality? 
See! He's needed!  |
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VanIslander
Joined: 18 Aug 2003
Location: Geoje, Hadong, Tongyeong,... now in a small coastal island town outside Gyeongsangnamdo!
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| Posted: Thu Dec 23, 2004 7:47 pm Post subject: Re: Degree-checking soon to become reality for teachers |
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| Derrek wrote: |
| Personally, I'm all for it, and I think it's great. I have a feeling that MANY foreigners here teach with fake degrees. Getting rid of them can only make the job pool tighter, and perhaps raise salaries for others with legal degrees. |
I fear it'll mostly just make recruiters and employers more desparate and thus more willing to lie to potential hirees about the benefits and working conditions, which would negatively impact the majority of us in our future search for new positions. |
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thorin
Joined: 14 Apr 2003
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| Posted: Thu Dec 23, 2004 7:48 pm Post subject: |
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| Real Reality may be a little dry but his links have a bit more credibility than Derrek Reality. |
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Daechidong Waygookin
Joined: 22 Nov 2004
Location: No Longer on Dave's. Ive quit.
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| Posted: Thu Dec 23, 2004 7:54 pm Post subject: Re: Degree-checking soon to become reality for teachers |
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| VanIslander wrote: |
| Derrek wrote: |
| Personally, I'm all for it, and I think it's great. I have a feeling that MANY foreigners here teach with fake degrees. Getting rid of them can only make the job pool tighter, and perhaps raise salaries for others with legal degrees. |
I fear it'll mostly just make recruiters and employers more desparate and thus more willing to lie to potential hirees about the benefits and working conditions, which would negatively impact the majority of us in our future search for new positions. |
Why? I dont think so. MAYBE newbies. Not long timers. |
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hellofaniceguy
Joined: 10 Jan 2003
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| Posted: Thu Dec 23, 2004 8:30 pm Post subject: |
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| It's not a problem for those who do not have bogus degrees. |
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Daechidong Waygookin
Joined: 22 Nov 2004
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| hellofaniceguy wrote: |
| It's not a problem for those who do not have bogus degrees. |
Its a great thing for those with real degrees. I wonder what % of the teachers here are illegal. 10%? 20%? 30%? Think of all of them leaving and creating a shortage of teachers. Demand will rise as supply drops and salaries should be picking up, as well as working conditions. I say its great. |
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mindmetoo
Joined: 02 Feb 2004
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| Posted: Thu Dec 23, 2004 8:53 pm Post subject: |
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| hellofaniceguy wrote: |
| It's not a problem for those who do not have bogus degrees. |
'xactly. But shouldn't the local embassy/consulate you go to for your visa have a list of accredited degree granting institutions. The Korean consulate in Seattle would not verify my Ontario university degree. I had to go back home to get that done. This, I thought, was the reason you had to go to the consulate/embassy closest to your degree granting institution. |
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PolyChronic Time Girl
Joined: 15 Dec 2004
Location: Korea Exited
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Actually, after that whole Konkuk thing, my boss went to all us foreign teachers and had us write down our universities, addresses, phone numbers and said he was going to make sure our degrees were legal. I had no problem...I'm legal but my coworkers were put off by the whole thing...hmmmmmm  |
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jaganath69
Joined: 17 Jul 2003
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| I forsee the numbers of Quebecers dropping dramatically. |
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fondasoape
Joined: 02 Dec 2004
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| Posted: Thu Dec 23, 2004 9:01 pm Post subject: |
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| PolyChronic Time Girl wrote: |
| Actually, after that whole Konkuk thing, |
Excuse me, but I missed the story. What Konkuk thing? |
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Ryst Helmut
Joined: 26 Apr 2003
Location: In search of the elusive signature...
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| Posted: Thu Dec 23, 2004 9:22 pm Post subject: |
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| fondasoape wrote: |
| PolyChronic Time Girl wrote: |
| Actually, after that whole Konkuk thing, |
Excuse me, but I missed the story. What Konkuk thing? |
So I see December 3rd is your join date....soooo, just above...there is a 'search' function. It is your best friend.
I typed "Konkuk," and voila!
http://www.eslcafe.com/forums/korea/viewtopic.php?t=29239&highlight=konkuk
!Shoosh
Ryst |
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