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Another Reason to Not Use Internet Explorer

 
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Real Reality



Joined: 10 Jan 2003
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Sat Dec 25, 2004 7:23 pm    Post subject: Another Reason to Not Use Internet Explorer Reply with quote

Yet Another Reason to Not Use Internet Explorer
Attention to anyone who's still foolish enough to use Internet Explorer:

As though your Web browser weren't vulnerable enough to spyware, secret ActiveX controls and other hacker attacks, security experts have now unveiled an even more insidious hole. Phishers (people who try to intercept your Web passwords and private information) can now make any text they like appear in the address bar. They can, for example, make it look like you're viewing the Web page of PayPal or eBay; when you "log in," you'll actually be sending your account information straight into the phishers' databases.

So what should you do? If you ask me, you should switch immediately to the free, infinitely superior browser Firefox (if you use Windows or Mac) or Safari (Mac OS X). You'll absolutely love its tabbed browsing, pop-up window stopper and other advanced features-and you'll be safe from most of the security holes in Internet Explorer.
The New York Times (December 24, 2004)
http://www.nytimes.com/2004/12/24/technology/circuits/24pogues-posts.html

Firefox
http://www.mozilla.org/products/firefox/
Safari
http://www.apple.com/safari/
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Gollum



Joined: 04 Sep 2003
Location: Japan

PostPosted: Sat Dec 25, 2004 7:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I use the new Firefox about 50% of the time or so. I have it set up as my default, but end up having to load IE whenenver I encounter a variety of issues, including:

-- Won't stream .wmv files-- must download and open the WM application
-- Numerous Flash errors on Korean sites like cyworld and enuri.com
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fandeath



Joined: 01 Nov 2004

PostPosted: Mon Jan 03, 2005 6:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I use both Firefox and IE6, but I still use IE as my default. It will be hard to shift the majority of people away from IE.


The moment firefox gains a large enough marketshare, it will also be targeted by hackers and all weaknesses will be exposed.
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Sage Monkey



Joined: 01 Nov 2004

PostPosted: Mon Jan 03, 2005 8:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've seen the paypal one, it came in an email asking me to login and do something. It actually directed me to a very authentic looking site with the right address and everything. The link opened in Firefox by the way so the problem isn't limited to IE. I actually logged into the site and then noticed that things about my account weren't right and was instantly suspicious when it started asking for my visa information. Needless to say, I opened up the real paypal site instantly upon becoming suspicious and changed my password. It scared the crap out of me.

I am usually very security savvy when it comes to computers so the fact that I fell for the fraud enough to actually visit the site and login means that it is looks pretty authentic. Be careful people.
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Demophobe



Joined: 17 May 2004

PostPosted: Mon Jan 03, 2005 3:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

fandeath wrote:
I use both Firefox and IE6, but I still use IE as my default. It will be hard to shift the majority of people away from IE.

The moment firefox gains a large enough marketshare, it will also be targeted by hackers and all weaknesses will be exposed.



Of course, this holds some water. One must remember however, that IE is wrapped around so many integral parts of your OS....it is far from being a stand-alone product. So much is it a part of Windows, that it's list of vulnerabilities is and always will be much, much longer.

It already holds enough share and is growing daily to catch the eyes of many manipulative types out there.
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hari seldon



Joined: 05 Dec 2004
Location: Incheon

PostPosted: Wed Jan 05, 2005 2:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

fandeath wrote:
I use both Firefox and IE6, but I still use IE as my default. It will be hard to shift the majority of people away from IE.


The moment firefox gains a large enough marketshare, it will also be targeted by hackers and all weaknesses will be exposed.

Mozilla products own a 7% and growing piece of the browser market.

I doubt hackers will target free open source software with anything approaching the zealousness with which they target the greedy Microsoft monopoly.
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fandeath



Joined: 01 Nov 2004

PostPosted: Wed Jan 05, 2005 11:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sorry, I didn't buy into the hype. And nothing is 100% 'secure'. As with anything that becomes popular, there will be a backlash.

Here's an interesting blog about the subject:
http://www.blawgchannel.com/2004/11/todays_browser_.html
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Sage Monkey



Joined: 01 Nov 2004

PostPosted: Thu Jan 06, 2005 1:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

hari seldon wrote:
fandeath wrote:
I use both Firefox and IE6, but I still use IE as my default. It will be hard to shift the majority of people away from IE.


The moment firefox gains a large enough marketshare, it will also be targeted by hackers and all weaknesses will be exposed.

Mozilla products own a 7% and growing piece of the browser market.

I doubt hackers will target free open source software with anything approaching the zealousness with which they target the greedy Microsoft monopoly.


The chances are good that the hackers themselves are using an opensource browser and therefor wouldn't target one with as much enthusiasm as a Microcrap product.
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fandeath



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PostPosted: Thu Jan 06, 2005 1:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes, I agree it wouldn't be as big as a target as Microsoft, but if it can be exploited, it will.
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The King of Kwangju



Joined: 10 Feb 2003
Location: New York City

PostPosted: Fri Jan 07, 2005 10:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

hari seldon wrote:
I doubt hackers will target free open source software with anything approaching the zealousness with which they target the greedy Microsoft monopoly.

You're dreaming.
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hari seldon



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PostPosted: Fri Jan 07, 2005 5:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The King of Kwangju wrote:
hari seldon wrote:
I doubt hackers will target free open source software with anything approaching the zealousness with which they target the greedy Microsoft monopoly.

You're dreaming.


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hari seldon



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PostPosted: Fri Jan 07, 2005 5:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

hari seldon wrote:
The King of Kwangju wrote:
hari seldon wrote:
I doubt hackers will target free open source software with anything approaching the zealousness with which they target the greedy Microsoft monopoly.

You're dreaming.


We'll see. Meanwhile...

Secunia lists five advisories for Firefox 1.0:
http://secunia.com/product/4227/#advisories
It lists 75 for IE 6.0:
http://secunia.com/product/11/

Firefox has one moderately critical unpatched vulnerability -which virtually all browsers share. In contrast, IE has "extremely critical" unpatched advisories, even after a long, long list of patches is installed.

Why would anyone want to needlessly expose their PC to all of Internet Explorer's vulnerabilities?
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Cthulhu



Joined: 02 Feb 2003

PostPosted: Fri Jan 07, 2005 5:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Love Firefox. Of course, I always hated Explorer and loved Netscape. Windows and its components are a perpetual "work in progress."
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