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Real Reality
Joined: 10 Jan 2003 Location: Seoul
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Posted: Thu Jan 06, 2005 8:15 pm Post subject: Dual Citizens Choose Before 18 or Must Serve |
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Dual Citizens Must Choose Before 18 to Avoid Draft
A court has ruled that if dual citizens do not give up their Korean citizenship before the age of 18, they may not do so until after they complete their mandatory military service. It ruled that laws requiring dual citizens to choose their nationality before they turn 18, with the objective of protecting national security through conscription at a time of North-South confrontation, were constitutional. Seoul High Court upheld Thursday a lower court ruling that a 23-year-old dual citizen who was born in the United States could not give up his Korean citizenship until he had completed his mandatory military service. The man had filed a lawsuit against the Justice Minister, demanding the ministry accept his application to give up his Korean citizenship.
In its decision, the court said Korea's nationality and conscription laws make it so that male dual citizens are eligible for conscription once they turn 18, and they may not give up their Korean citizenship until their military service has been fulfilled.
by Keum Won-seop, Chosun Ilbo (January 6, 2005)
http://english.chosun.com/w21data/html/news/200501/200501060020.html |
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dogbert

Joined: 29 Jan 2003 Location: Killbox 90210
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Posted: Thu Jan 06, 2005 8:26 pm Post subject: |
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I wonder if that was 18 in Korean years or real years. |
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Real Reality
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Posted: Thu Jan 06, 2005 11:15 pm Post subject: |
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dogbert

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Posted: Thu Jan 06, 2005 11:39 pm Post subject: |
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Well, imagine you're Joe Kyopo chillin' with the KK back in El Lay thinking, "No sweat, homez, I won't turn 18 until another six months" and meantime, in Korean age, you're already 19 and need to get your ass down to the induction office ASAP. Makes a difference. |
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Real Reality
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Posted: Fri Jan 07, 2005 2:08 am Post subject: |
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The date of birth? The date on their national ID cards? The "official" age? |
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chiaa
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Posted: Fri Jan 07, 2005 2:36 am Post subject: |
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I wonder what the other country that the person is a citizen of has to say about that?
If you are a US citizen and serve in another countries armed forces, I believe that is grounds for losing your citizenship.
This can be interesting. |
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phaedrus

Joined: 13 Nov 2003 Location: I'm comin' to get ya.
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Posted: Fri Jan 07, 2005 2:47 am Post subject: |
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...and the abuses that would follow should dual citizens be given the unlimited right to give up their citizenship.... |
I'm glad my wife and I are only pursuing Canadian citizenship for our son. The wording of that quote makes it seem as if Koreans are owned rather than governed by Korean law. |
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T-dot

Joined: 16 May 2004 Location: bundang
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Posted: Fri Jan 07, 2005 5:10 am Post subject: |
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I know some gyopos that have renounced their citizenship after 18. one guy did it last week. Just had fill out some military exempt form. |
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mindmetoo
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Posted: Fri Jan 07, 2005 4:10 pm Post subject: |
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chiaa wrote: |
I wonder what the other country that the person is a citizen of has to say about that?
If you are a US citizen and serve in another countries armed forces, I believe that is grounds for losing your citizenship.
This can be interesting. |
It used to be, I believe, but now it's kind of something they might hold over your head, a la Dead Eye Dick. Remember that idiot that served with the Taliban army? He was the first American citizen found serving for the enemy before they turned up a lot more at Camp Xray. There was talk about stripping him of his citizenship for serving in another nation's armed forces but that didn't come about. |
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fidel
Joined: 07 Feb 2003 Location: North Shore NZ
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Posted: Sat Jan 08, 2005 12:27 am Post subject: |
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If you are a US citizen and serve in another countries armed forces, I believe that is grounds for losing your citizenship |
Why? It's okay to serve in the US military if you are a member of another country. How do I know you say? Because I hear it on AFKN radio all the time. It's no big deal in most countries to serve in each others military. At any given time there are hundreds/thousands of Aussies, Kiwis, Gurhkas, Sikhs etc serving in the British forces.
Losing your citizenship.. Blah! |
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chiaa
Joined: 23 Aug 2003
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Posted: Sat Jan 08, 2005 3:29 am Post subject: |
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fidel wrote: |
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If you are a US citizen and serve in another countries armed forces, I believe that is grounds for losing your citizenship |
Why? It's okay to serve in the US military if you are a member of another country. How do I know you say? Because I hear it on AFKN radio all the time. It's no big deal in most countries to serve in each others military. At any given time there are hundreds/thousands of Aussies, Kiwis, Gurhkas, Sikhs etc serving in the British forces.
Losing your citizenship.. Blah! |
Hey it is just what it says on my passport. |
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