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Interesting comments about divorce in Korea by K-female
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Gollum



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PostPosted: Sun Jan 16, 2005 11:20 pm    Post subject: Interesting comments about divorce in Korea by K-female Reply with quote

I'm online chatting with a Korean female friend. We used to date, but stopped because we had no *spark*, but remained friends. We often chat online about different people we date, etc.

Yesterday we started chatting about the whole ES issue, and she went off on a tangent about divorce in Korea. She said that there was a story out last weekend about the rapidly rising numbers of people seeking divorce in Korea... wish I could remember the stats she quoted for me. Something like several hundred couples per day get divorced. The total for one week equaled half of the number of people who marry in the same week.

Then she told me that, "Korean men have more hardship after divorce."

I was a little surprised at hearing a Korean woman say this. I expected her to tell me what I already felt -- that Korean women get the shaft in such situations. She looked at it a different way, however. She said that there are now stories about how many divorced Korean men are unable to care for themselves, since their mothers and wives did it for them their whole life.

It is kind of interesting, if you think about it. Also, I don't know how many Korean women are interested in having a future with a divorced Korean guy. I know most Korean guys don't want to marry a divorced Korean woman -- that's for sure. Even in my home country, there is a bit of a stigma with some, but it's much stronger among Koreans.

She also mentioned that lots of Korean women go to the internet to date.... foreigners. As a person who's been dating in Korea for nearly 3 years now, I'd have to agree. Lots of divorced women do seek to date foreigners. I'd say this is true because we don't attach such a stigma to them for being divorced. Also, I know for a fact that Korean women feel a great deal of shame over divorce. When they are with a foreigner, they don't have to feel that way.

Lastly, we chatted about how women are treated as "property" in Korea (their name is transferred to their husband's family book, and erased entirely if they divorce).

My friend made an interesting deduction after hearing me say, "Korean men are very proud and nationalistic, and many are really worried about losing their women and the future of their nation to foreigners."

She responded by saying, "If that's the case, then Korean men need to realize that 50% of the female population is divorcing, and they need to start caring about that 50% if they intend to keep a national identity for much longer."

What do you think? Are Korean men ignoring that 50% of the female population that divorces?

Do Koreans re-marry after divorce? I only know divorced Koreans, but I imagine if they re-marry, they hide previous marriages at all costs.
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TheMrCul



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PostPosted: Mon Jan 17, 2005 12:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I heard that there was actually a TV show where divorced people can meet up and start relationships with each other.

Don't many Korean guys (divorced and not) get foriegn girls too? (Not from the West, but from the Phillipines, Vietnam, China etc)
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ulsanchris



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PostPosted: Mon Jan 17, 2005 2:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've read the other day that a most of the men marrying foreign women are men who divorced korean women. The men who married the foriegn woman clam that they are more docile and likely to listen to them.
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JZer



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PostPosted: Mon Jan 17, 2005 3:21 am    Post subject: Asian men wanting women to becon to every call Reply with quote

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The men who married the foriegn woman clam that they are more docile and likely to listen to them.


I will first state that I am a man but secondly what is it with Asian men wanting women who will becon to every call. (Sorry, I have not lived in Korea yet but am planning to move there soon but I have been to Taiwan and have many Asian friends.) I find it really boring when a women cannot state their own opinion. I dated a Korean girl for a while a it became a little boring because I had to plan every date. I love girls who have their own opinion and will plan things that they would like to do with me.
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Blind Willie



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PostPosted: Mon Jan 17, 2005 3:23 am    Post subject: Re: Asian men wanting women to becon to every call Reply with quote

JZer wrote:
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The men who married the foriegn woman clam that they are more docile and likely to listen to them.


I will first state that I am a man but secondly what is it with Asian men wanting women who will becon to every call. (Sorry, I have not lived in Korea yet but am planning to move there soon but I have been to Taiwan and have many Asian friends.) I find it really boring when a women cannot state their own opinion. I dated a Korean girl for a while a it became a little boring because I had to plan every date. I love girls who have their own opinion and will plan things that they would like to do with me.

I must have been dating the wrong Asian girls... I've never been with a push over.
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rapier



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PostPosted: Mon Jan 17, 2005 5:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

"The problems of being a single parent in korea"
The "hoju" or family registry system, which considers children part of the ex-husband's family record even when they live with the mother, is expected to be abolished by next month.

http://www.koreaherald.co.kr/site/data/html_dir/2005/01/10/200501100032.asp?kpage=4&kppage=0&scode=FA&art_id%22=
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rapier



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PostPosted: Mon Jan 17, 2005 5:25 am    Post subject: Re: Interesting comments about divorce in Korea by K-female Reply with quote

[quote="Gollum"]
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She said that there are now stories about how many divorced Korean men are unable to care for themselves, since their mothers and wives did it for them their whole life.

So its high time they learned. I've known how to make my own bed since I was 7, cook a square meal at age 13, And am atill able to drag myself to the doctor even when sick with the fever, to get medication I need by commonicating in a language I can't even speak. THEY ARE OVERGROWN BABIES.


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I know most Korean guys don't want to marry a divorced Korean woman -- that's for sure.
I know for a fact most divorced Korean women would never consider marrying a Korean man second time round. Once bitten.

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Lastly, we chatted about how women are treated as "property" in Korea (their name is transferred to their husband's family book, and erased entirely if they divorce).
See my link in my post above.

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She responded by saying, "If that's the case, then Korean men need to realize that 50% of the female population is divorcing, and they need to start caring about that 50% if they intend to keep a national identity for much longer."
Exactly. But divorced women are sidelined here, and treated as lower than bugs by their former in-laws.
Some are lucky and get visiting rights to their own children, many do not as an act of spite by their former husbands. Some are fortunate enough to be handed over the kids along with a paternal stipend to care fore them. many look for a new life abroad and marriage to a foreigner.

Let me just say that the divorcees i've known here have been wonderful women, and I have much smpathy for the B.S they suffer in korea...
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JZer



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PostPosted: Mon Jan 17, 2005 1:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Blind Willie, sorry for the blank statement. I was not really trying to apply that Korean women don't have their own opinion.


I probably should have wrote:I dated a girl (insert any nation that you like) for a while a it became a little boring because I had to plan every date. I love girls who have their own opinion and will plan things that they would like to do with me.

I will really just asking what men see in women who becon to their every call.
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ulsanchris



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PostPosted: Tue Jan 18, 2005 1:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I will first state that I am a man but secondly what is it with Asian men wanting women who will becon to every call.


One of the reason some western guys for saying they will only date korean woman is because they (korean women) haven't been corrupted by feminism. that they know how to serve their man better and do more and such stuff.
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Sonja



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PostPosted: Tue Jan 18, 2005 1:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Another great, unbiased, thread from Gollum (aka: the Playboy, hehe). Yes, all Korean men are terrible, all those poor Korean women didn't do anything wrong, they were all victims of the evil Korean men (yet chose to marry their husband in the first place, strange is it not?). Luckily for them (and for older foreign men who can't get any) foreigners come to the rescue. Quick! where is super-daechidong-mega- kindy- teacher- with-nerves-of-steel-living in an officetel???
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TheMrCul



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PostPosted: Tue Jan 18, 2005 1:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Right...
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SuperFly



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PostPosted: Tue Jan 18, 2005 1:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well my wife treats me like property. She tells the vet that she owns me...she tells the vet she bought me for 150 dollars. Sure, she pays for all of my shots, and buys me treats....but wtf? Owns me?
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Gollum



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PostPosted: Tue Jan 18, 2005 6:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sonja wrote:
Another great, unbiased, thread from Gollum (aka: the Playboy, hehe). Yes, all Korean men are terrible, all those poor Korean women didn't do anything wrong, they were all victims of the evil Korean men (yet chose to marry their husband in the first place, strange is it not?). Luckily for them (and for older foreign men who can't get any) foreigners come to the rescue. Quick! where is super-daechidong-mega- kindy- teacher- with-nerves-of-steel-living in an officetel???


Me? Playboy? Hardly.

All Korean men terrible? No. Why would you think I said that?

Why don't you reserve your angry hate comments about foreigners for the anti-ES site? Do you think all foriegners are terrible?

This is a discussion about something different. Keep on topic.
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Gollum



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PostPosted: Tue Jan 18, 2005 6:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

TheMrCul wrote:

Don't many Korean guys (divorced and not) get foriegn girls too? (Not from the West, but from the Phillipines, Vietnam, China etc)


Very true.

There are numerous banners and posters out in the country that advertise this. I didn't know what they were about until a K-gal pointed them out to me. Now I notice them whenever I'm out and about in rural areas.

Man, I feel sorry for those girls. I saw a TV show about guys marrying these girls, and not one of them truly looked happy. I'm not saying their husbands were bad (country folk are much kinder, although can be more traditional and strict, in my opinion), but they just didn't look at all excited by their lifestyle. I know that filipinas come here, and it's a hell of a shock. Suddenly they leave behind their friends/family (they are arguably closer to friends/family than Koreans) and support system, and come to place knowing little language. Often they have to care for/cook for their husband's family too.

I'm sure they were promised a lot when they signed up for whatever service matched them up.

I do have a Mongolian friend whose sister married an older Korean ajosshi. She's happy. They don't live together, but they have a business together, and he's good to her when they see each other. She's massive like a watermelon, but it's a win-win situation for both of them somehow.
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Blind Willie



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PostPosted: Tue Jan 18, 2005 7:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Gollum wrote:
Sonja wrote:
Another great, unbiased, thread from Gollum (aka: the Playboy, hehe). Yes, all Korean men are terrible, all those poor Korean women didn't do anything wrong, they were all victims of the evil Korean men (yet chose to marry their husband in the first place, strange is it not?). Luckily for them (and for older foreign men who can't get any) foreigners come to the rescue. Quick! where is super-daechidong-mega- kindy- teacher- with-nerves-of-steel-living in an officetel???


Me? Playboy? Hardly.

All Korean men terrible? No. Why would you think I said that?

Why don't you reserve your angry hate comments about foreigners for the anti-ES site? Do you think all foriegners are terrible?

This is a discussion about something different. Keep on topic.

Denial aint just a river.
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