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ghostshadow



Joined: 27 Apr 2004
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Mon Jan 17, 2005 6:48 pm    Post subject: Non-teaching jobs Reply with quote

Alright, I know there are tons of teaching English jobs out there... and Dave's ESL is a great resource... now is there a great resource site for non-teaching jobs in Korea for those that are Native English speakers?

If you guys/gals know any please let me know...

Thanks
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diablo3



Joined: 11 Sep 2004

PostPosted: Mon Jan 17, 2005 8:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Absolutely.
Your chances are increased if you do not have a degree in teaching or arts. For example, a degree in Computer Science could give you an opportunity to work in IT based companies.

If you network, this will help you too.

What is your degree in anyway?
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Wangja



Joined: 17 May 2004
Location: Seoul, Yongsan

PostPosted: Mon Jan 17, 2005 8:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Jobs in banking, law firms, international companies, hotels etc etc - many other choices, career choices too. Knowledge of Korean is usually a plus point.

Using the specialist agent for your chosen discipline will produce many results.

But beware, outside teaching, Korea is considered a desirable location and competition is quite high.
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mindmetoo



Joined: 02 Feb 2004

PostPosted: Mon Jan 17, 2005 9:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Assuming you don't have an MBA or a degree in Computer Science, the simple answer is "no". There's no hidden web page with jobs for English editors, playwrights, greeting card writers, copywriters, Korea Herald reporters, tourism web page writers, t-shirt slogan designers, English textbook authors, etc. that go wanting for applicants.

The harder answer is yes they're out there but you have to make connections with Koreans. Korean translators are great people to know. Translation pays a horrible, horrible wage here and good translators spend vast amounts of their time hunting for work. The two translators I know always forward me editor jobs when they come across them while looking for jobs. I've gotten a few decent enough side projects from them.

As well, nearly everyone who teaches English in Korea would rather be a reporter or an editor at a funky Korean internet company. You're competing against all of us. If you've got job experience in those areas, you're better positioned then. If you have no experience and just ambition, well, you'll have to pound a lot of pavement and buy translators a lot of coffee.
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ghostshadow



Joined: 27 Apr 2004
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Mon Jan 17, 2005 11:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The type of work I was looking for are office types, not IT or engineering. I was thinking about a place of resource for just normal jobs in general.
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turtlepi1



Joined: 15 Jun 2004
Location: Abu Dhabi, UAE

PostPosted: Mon Jan 17, 2005 11:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ghostshadow wrote:
The type of work I was looking for are office types, not IT or engineering. I was thinking about a place of resource for just normal jobs in general.


Are you fluent in Korean? If not I would imagine it is unlikely....
(sorry I couldn't be of more help...did you try any of the biggies like Monster or Workopolis.com?)
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Wangja



Joined: 17 May 2004
Location: Seoul, Yongsan

PostPosted: Tue Jan 18, 2005 1:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

May not be your skill but from Yahoo jobs in my mail box today (there is at least one a day) ... http://hotjobs.yahoo.com/jobseeker/jobsearch/job_detail.html?job_id=JPSGFRS55

salary
$80,000 - $120,000
skills required
purification, commerical, biologics, protein, bioreactor, korea, seoul
job description
Manager, Purification Operations - Seoul, South Korea

PLEASE NOTE:
This position is located at a startup commercial biologics manufacturing facility in Seoul, South Korea. Candidates who apply to this position must be willing to relocate, live and work in Seoul, South Korea.
Major expenses including apartment living, automobile, an annual month-long trip to the United States and American schooling for children will be paid for by this company. You will also be eligable for significant tax advantages. This is an incredible opportunity to develop a new world class large scale pharmaceutical manufacturing facility, gain exposure to major pharmaceutical companies and save a lot of money!
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Daechidong Waygookin



Joined: 22 Nov 2004
Location: No Longer on Dave's. Ive quit.

PostPosted: Tue Jan 18, 2005 3:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wangja wrote:
May not be your skill but from Yahoo jobs in my mail box today (there is at least one a day) ... http://hotjobs.yahoo.com/jobseeker/jobsearch/job_detail.html?job_id=JPSGFRS55

salary
$80,000 - $120,000
skills required
purification, commerical, biologics, protein, bioreactor, korea, seoul
job description
Manager, Purification Operations - Seoul, South Korea

PLEASE NOTE:
This position is located at a startup commercial biologics manufacturing facility in Seoul, South Korea. Candidates who apply to this position must be willing to relocate, live and work in Seoul, South Korea.
Major expenses including apartment living, automobile, an annual month-long trip to the United States and American schooling for children will be paid for by this company. You will also be eligable for significant tax advantages. This is an incredible opportunity to develop a new world class large scale pharmaceutical manufacturing facility, gain exposure to major pharmaceutical companies and save a lot of money!


Christ, thats what I learned to do for 4 long years at university. Nice wage too.
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tomato



Joined: 31 Jan 2003
Location: I get so little foreign language experience, I must be in Koreatown, Los Angeles.

PostPosted: Tue Jan 18, 2005 7:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hello, Ghost Shadow!

I asked the same question a year ago, and I got responses both positive and negative:

http://www.eslcafe.com/forums/korea/viewtopic.php?t=12538&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=15

I can't answer your question firsthand, because I'm still working on the prerequisites.
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SuperFly



Joined: 09 Jul 2003
Location: In the doghouse

PostPosted: Tue Jan 18, 2005 1:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

mindmetoo wrote:
Assuming you don't have an MBA or a degree in Computer Science, the simple answer is "no". There's no hidden web page with jobs for English editors, playwrights, greeting card writers, copywriters, Korea Herald reporters, tourism web page writers, t-shirt slogan designers, English textbook authors, etc. that go wanting for applicants.

The harder answer is yes they're out there but you have to make connections with Koreans. Korean translators are great people to know. Translation pays a horrible, horrible wage here and good translators spend vast amounts of their time hunting for work. The two translators I know always forward me editor jobs when they come across them while looking for jobs. I've gotten a few decent enough side projects from them.

As well, nearly everyone who teaches English in Korea would rather be a reporter or an editor at a funky Korean internet company. You're competing against all of us. If you've got job experience in those areas, you're better positioned then. If you have no experience and just ambition, well, you'll have to pound a lot of pavement and buy translators a lot of coffee.




Could you forward me one of those contacts? I need a translator for my Korean and Chinese vendors when I go to Korea on business.
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Tiberious aka Sparkles



Joined: 23 Jan 2003
Location: I'm one cool cat!

PostPosted: Tue Jan 18, 2005 6:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I was offered a position at a German company outright by the husband of my wife's friend. I don't speak German, and explained that my Korean wasn't good enough to use daily in the workplace.

No problem, he said. All the workers spoke English well. Would I be teaching English? No, business-related office work.

Sounded OK, but the pay was less than what I currently earn.

Sparkles*_*
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mindmetoo



Joined: 02 Feb 2004

PostPosted: Tue Jan 18, 2005 6:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Tiberious aka Sparkles wrote:
I was offered a position at a German company outright by the husband of my wife's friend. I don't speak German, and explained that my Korean wasn't good enough to use daily in the workplace.

No problem, he said. All the workers spoke English well. Would I be teaching English? No, business-related office work.

Sounded OK, but the pay was less than what I currently earn.

Sparkles*_*


Yeah, that's the other thing the OP should consider. Do you want to trade your 18 hours of work a week for a 40+ hour a week job that requires you to wear a suit and tie?

You think a hagwon is bad, try office politics and a bad office environment.
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Wangja



Joined: 17 May 2004
Location: Seoul, Yongsan

PostPosted: Tue Jan 18, 2005 7:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

mindmetoo wrote:
Tiberious aka Sparkles wrote:
I was offered a position at a German company outright by the husband of my wife's friend. I don't speak German, and explained that my Korean wasn't good enough to use daily in the workplace.

No problem, he said. All the workers spoke English well. Would I be teaching English? No, business-related office work.

Sounded OK, but the pay was less than what I currently earn.

Sparkles*_*


Yeah, that's the other thing the OP should consider. Do you want to trade your 18 hours of work a week for a 40+ hour a week job that requires you to wear a suit and tie?

You think a hagwon is bad, try office politics and a bad office environment.


Only 40 !! wow ! A holiday camp .... more like 50+ and then mandatory team -building dinners and drinking sessions ..
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jajdude



Joined: 18 Jan 2003

PostPosted: Thu Jan 20, 2005 9:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

MBA?

Mostly bull anyway?
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