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babtangee



Joined: 18 Dec 2004
Location: OMG! Charlie has me surrounded!

PostPosted: Mon Jan 17, 2005 5:42 am    Post subject: Anyone Teaching North of Seoul? Reply with quote

Got offered a position in Chunchon. Very risky (hagwon's just starting out), yet very appealing to my sensibilities.

The director writes near fluently and studied at my uni, giving him instant cred. with me.

Is ANYONE working in Chunchon?

Do they have more trouble getting teachers nearer to the demilitarized zone?

I'd love to take this job, but my wife will take some convincing Rolling Eyes
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Daechidong Waygookin



Joined: 22 Nov 2004
Location: No Longer on Dave's. Ive quit.

PostPosted: Mon Jan 17, 2005 6:18 am    Post subject: Re: Anyone Teaching North of Seoul? Reply with quote

babtangee wrote:
Got offered a position in Chunchon. Very risky (hagwon's just starting out), yet very appealing to my sensibilities.

The director writes near fluently and studied at my uni, giving him instant cred. with me.

Is ANYONE working in Chunchon?

Do they have more trouble getting teachers nearer to the demilitarized zone?

I'd love to take this job, but my wife will take some convincing Rolling Eyes


What will you do when the North invades? At least here in
kangnam we'd be given some time to escape as the Han would slow them down considerably. So, any ideas? What would you do? Hide in the hills? Think about it.
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babtangee



Joined: 18 Dec 2004
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 17, 2005 6:43 am    Post subject: Re: Anyone Teaching North of Seoul? Reply with quote

Daechidong Waygookin wrote:


What will you do when the North invades? At least here in
kangnam we'd be given some time to escape as the Han would slow them down considerably. So, any ideas? What would you do? Hide in the hills? Think about it.


Um, I guess I'd ask if I can join up in the fight for communism!

Trading one wacky ideology for another is fine with me. And they really do need a nice white boy to speak out for them. And if I'm really lucky I might get to meet Dear Leader!! (I'd gush like a Korean gongjunim, I tells ya Embarassed )

If that doesn't work then I guess I'll have some fun tales to tell about North Koreas white-guy experimentations in, oh, I donno, 30 or so years or whenever they let me out of the prison camp.

Something tells me I will get a heads up when I hear the gunfire and excitement coming from the nearby border, though. I mean, it only takes, what, 20 minutes or so to drive the full length of SK North to South? How hard could it be to get to a comfy GI base?

And I'm pretty sure Dear Leader would be sensible enough to send a bit of long-range artillery your way while he sends the boys in. I reckon we're both got an equal probability of instant or slow and painful death should Kim Jong Il be as silly as you hypothesis. Though I think you give him too little credit. I mean he has (reportedly) got nukes. When they make me chief advisor on foreign affairs my first two words will be "use 'em".
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Dawn



Joined: 06 Mar 2004

PostPosted: Mon Jan 17, 2005 4:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm not in Chunchon, but am north of Seoul and near the DMZ. The school I've been at the past couple of years does have a bit of trouble finding qualified teachers, but I don't think proximity to North Korea is a major factor. Much bigger factors are qualifications (we require teachers to hold either a valid teaching certificate or to have a degree in English and prior teaching), working hours and distance from Seoul. Many teachers simply don't want to give up the conveniences and/or night life of the big city.

On the flip side, life in the more rural areas of Korea has its advantages. Housing can be much nicer, as property is cheaper. The Korean community gets to know you a lot faster and doesn't treat you like as much of an "outsider." Outdoor activities are more abundant, and (with the exception of yellow dust season), the air tends to be a lot cleaner. Right now, I'm living in a 24-pyung apartment that's approximately a seven-minute walk from the start of a decent series of hiking trails and less than five minutes from a nice bike path along the river. Almost everything I need and much of what I want is readily available in this town of 40,000. Notable exceptions are books and music, which I'd be buying off the Internet even if I were in my home country.

As for the threat possed by North Korea, the local population doesn't seem to give it much thought, and if they don't worry about it, why should we? Because I live maybe 150 meters off the "main route" from the DMZ into Seoul, there's an abundance of Korean and U.S. military bases in this area. That necessitated our getting used to the regular buzz of military aircraft -- a bit disconcerting at first, but after the first few weeks, most people no longer notice it.
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the eye



Joined: 29 Jan 2004

PostPosted: Mon Jan 17, 2005 5:21 pm    Post subject: Re: Anyone Teaching North of Seoul? Reply with quote

Daechidong Waygookin wrote:

What will you do when the North invades? At least here in
kangnam we'd be given some time to escape as the Han would slow them down considerably. So, any ideas? What would you do? Hide in the hills? Think about it.


Daechi, what's up with you? you've got to be joking, right?... please tell me you are, because i can't tell..i just woke up. one would think, living in seoul, you would know a little something about your fate regarding any kind of military offensive.
you'd be toast before you could jam, bro. this isn't 1812.

to the OP...don't worry about the proximity to north korea. i would be more worried by the fact that you are working for a brand new hogwan in a town that already has too many for it's stagnant population.
there are too many variables you can't estimate with a new hogwan...don't do it.

here's a few threads on chunchon...
http://www.eslcafe.com/forums/korea/viewtopic.php?t=31683&highlight=chunchon
http://www.eslcafe.com/forums/korea/viewtopic.php?t=31894&highlight=chuncheon
http://www.eslcafe.com/forums/korea/viewtopic.php?t=22106&highlight=chuncheon
http://www.eslcafe.com/forums/korea/viewtopic.php?t=17815&highlight=chuncheon
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chronicpride



Joined: 16 Jan 2003

PostPosted: Mon Jan 17, 2005 5:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm sure most people by now realize that DW lives in a world concocted from his own emotion, imagination, and limited perspective. That's why I feel bad about posting this, and triggering his heart to palpitate a little faster:

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North Korea has about 500 long-range artillery tubes within range of Seoul, double the levels of a the mid-1990s. Seoul is within range of the 170mm Koksan gun and two hundred 240mm multiple-rocket launchers. The proximity of these long-range systems to the Demilitarized Zone threatens all of Seoul with devastating attacks. Most of the rest of North Korea's artillery pieces are old and have limited range. North Korea fields an artillery force of over 12,000 self-propelled and towed weapon systems. Without moving any artillery pieces, the North could sustain up to 500,000 rounds an hour against Combined Forces Command defenses for several hours.

http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/ops/oplan-5027.htm

*closes eyes. Pictures a group hug of DW, Derek and Anda in tears of panic and despair*
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Daechidong Waygookin



Joined: 22 Nov 2004
Location: No Longer on Dave's. Ive quit.

PostPosted: Mon Jan 17, 2005 6:27 pm    Post subject: Re: Anyone Teaching North of Seoul? Reply with quote

the eye wrote:
Daechidong Waygookin wrote:

What will you do when the North invades? At least here in
kangnam we'd be given some time to escape as the Han would slow them down considerably. So, any ideas? What would you do? Hide in the hills? Think about it.


Daechi, what's up with you? you've got to be joking, right?... please tell me you are, because i can't tell..i just woke up. one would think, living in seoul, you would know a little something about your fate regarding any kind of military offensive.
you'd be toast before you could jam, bro. this isn't 1812.

to the OP...don't worry about the proximity to north korea. i would be more worried by the fact that you are working for a brand new hogwan in a town that already has too many for it's stagnant population.
there are too many variables you can't estimate with a new hogwan...don't do it.

here's a few threads on chunchon...
http://www.eslcafe.com/forums/korea/viewtopic.php?t=31683&highlight=chunchon
http://www.eslcafe.com/forums/korea/viewtopic.php?t=31894&highlight=chuncheon
http://www.eslcafe.com/forums/korea/viewtopic.php?t=22106&highlight=chuncheon
http://www.eslcafe.com/forums/korea/viewtopic.php?t=17815&highlight=chuncheon


I was joking. I thought it was pretty obvious...now I see sarcasm doesnt get across very well on the net.
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Plume D'ella Plumeria



Joined: 10 Jan 2005
Location: The Lost Horizon

PostPosted: Mon Jan 17, 2005 10:29 pm    Post subject: Anyone Teaching North of Seoul? Reply with quote

It wasn't obvious to me that you weren't serious, DW, since there seems to be a general patina of seriousness I've noticed, which surround your posts. Seems that others took you seriously too. Hmmm...we must ALL be a bunch of morons.
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babtangee



Joined: 18 Dec 2004
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 18, 2005 12:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Actually, I did assume Daechi was joking: hence my witty reply (though I certainly would do any and all of those things should I find myself in the clutches of Dear Leader). Otherwise I'd have to assume he was a fool.

And yeah, I wasn't really concerned about the DMZ; just hoping others were and thus this job offer wouldn't be so bad.

Now I have to think (thanks for the links): the guy says he's been open for a year, and is right next door to a primary school. However, says he wasn't sure how to go about teaching children (he's only been teaching teenagers), thus he needs me.

If his business does crumble, well I should have an F2 visa by then, so it shouldn't really affect me too much - apart, perhaps, from the guy blaming and hating me... am I right? Is this job really not worth the free flight?
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