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crazylemongirl



Joined: 23 Mar 2003
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 26, 2005 10:27 pm    Post subject: avoiding unwanted field trips Reply with quote

Ok,
So my principal as a sign of affection wants to take a weekend out of his busy schedule to show me around seoraksan. Now I'm not exactly one of those get back to nature types anyway as I like my creature comforts.

Also my korean isn't very good (and gets worse because he speaks to me in rapid fire korean) and he has no english. So the idea of spending any more than a few hours with him seems like tourture.

Fourtantly I've got the 'oh I have to meet my boyfriend' line. Which seemed to appease him, particularly as the guy is korean.

As peace offering I suggested a dinner on the days when I don't have korean class.

Anyone got any ideas to avoid these unwanted feild trips?
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Grotto



Joined: 21 Mar 2004

PostPosted: Wed Jan 26, 2005 11:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

doctors appointment
dentist appointment
sorry I made plans earlier in the week
Oh I am so tired....couldnt we just go for a drive/out for bulgogi/shopping?
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Derrek



Joined: 15 Jan 2003

PostPosted: Wed Jan 26, 2005 11:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sounds awful.

We get asked to do these 2-day trips once a semester, and we foreigners hate it. The people are nice, but something about hiking up a mountain while everyone else talks Korean is just not that fun. Luckily, I have made a few closer friends, and discussions are at least getting interesting in smaller groups.

The most awful thing is overnights... ugh... hate them. Why? Because they all sit up and drink soju and eat raw fish until 3 or 4am. If I don't join in, I'm looked at like I'm wangta, although they are still quite kind to me. The endless, "Are you OK? Are you feeling sick?" choruses make me borderline angry.

Then they turn around and get up at 7am.

My foreign co-workers and I had managed to get out of many of these events last year, however this year, the contract clearly stated that we must attend. Ha... apparently they didn't like us coming up with excuses to dodge such events.
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crazylemongirl



Joined: 23 Mar 2003
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 27, 2005 4:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Derrek wrote:
Sounds awful.

We get asked to do these 2-day trips once a semester, and we foreigners hate it. The people are nice, but something about hiking up a mountain while everyone else talks Korean is just not that fun. Luckily, I have made a few closer friends, and discussions are at least getting interesting in smaller groups.

The most awful thing is overnights... ugh... hate them. Why? Because they all sit up and drink soju and eat raw fish until 3 or 4am. If I don't join in, I'm looked at like I'm wangta, although they are still quite kind to me. The endless, "Are you OK? Are you feeling sick?" choruses make me borderline angry.

Then they turn around and get up at 7am.

My foreign co-workers and I had managed to get out of many of these events last year, however this year, the contract clearly stated that we must attend. Ha... apparently they didn't like us coming up with excuses to dodge such events.


Yeah I've been to the MT events (managed to get out of the last semester as I was on a plane to new zealand Razz ) but this is a seperate event altogether. Basically it would be me and the princpal which I think is a tad inapporiate.
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hellofaniceguy



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PostPosted: Thu Jan 27, 2005 4:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's easy...just say no thank you. I am not interested. I work all week and hang with you guys all week long...come Friday night, I am burned and need my space. I always tell them that and I tell them also that I appreciate the invitation but let's get together during the weekday for dinner, etc....weekends are for me and my family.
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Derrek



Joined: 15 Jan 2003

PostPosted: Thu Jan 27, 2005 7:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

My principal is female, and nearly my mother's age. ahahha

Yeah, I would feel weird about what you're going through.
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phaedrus



Joined: 13 Nov 2003
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 27, 2005 4:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

crazylemongirl wrote:
Basically it would be me and the princpal which I think is a tad inapporiate.


It would be odd for a Korean man to do something alone with a woman that he is not dating or married to, especially an older man.
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Derrek



Joined: 15 Jan 2003

PostPosted: Thu Jan 27, 2005 6:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

phaedrus wrote:
crazylemongirl wrote:
Basically it would be me and the princpal which I think is a tad inapporiate.


It would be odd for a Korean man to do something alone with a woman that he is not dating or married to, especially an older man.



OH MY GOSH!!!!!! Laughing Laughing

You're either Korean, or also believe you can die from "Fan Death!"

1. My k-female friend was nearly raped in a taxi by her older boss. The taxi driver did nothing.

2. A foreign friend in her 40s came to Korea for a visit, and was groped in public by a drunk ajosshi at a restaurant after he invited her to sit at his table and have dinner with them during a company outing. The table of 12+ company-members watched and did nothing -- probably shocked and embarrased, yet fearful for their jobs.

Korean men in high-power positions are DEFINATELY ones you should watch out for -- of any age.


I'm sure others can add more stories.

Are all Koreans this way? No. If you had to go on such a trip with your boss in another country, would CM feel it was strange or awkward? Yes. She would be nervous there, too.
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phaedrus



Joined: 13 Nov 2003
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 27, 2005 7:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Derrek wrote:
phaedrus wrote:
crazylemongirl wrote:
Basically it would be me and the princpal which I think is a tad inapporiate.


It would be odd for a Korean man to do something alone with a woman that he is not dating or married to, especially an older man.



If you had to go on such a trip with your boss in another country, would CM feel it was strange or awkward? Yes. She would be nervous there, too.


Yeah. It would feel a little strange anywhere. I'm thinking that if this guy is married, I can't see his wife thinking it's okay.

My wife would probably object a bit if I was to accompany another woman on a private field trip. My experience with having female friends when I was dating my wife is that men and women are never just friends, and a private field trip seems friendly to me.





Oh yeah, and excuses. I use family as an excuse. I hate outside of work activities. It's all work to me, especially if my boss is there.
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