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trout
Joined: 19 Nov 2004
Location: Canada
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 Posted: Mon Feb 07, 2005 8:52 am Post subject: e2 visa woes from canada.. help!! |
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i am applying for a work visa from canada. having just grauated from university i will not be awarded an actual diploma until may according to university regualtions. i spoke with the korean embassy and was informed that without the actual diploma a visa would not be issued through them due to so many instances of fraudualent docs.
the university says that they can send an offical letter saying i have completed the requirements and a transcript of my marks. this will not be accecptable for the embassy in canada but i have been told (not by the embassy)that if i go to korea and then get apply for the visa there it may be possible.
does anyone know if this is the case? or if there is any way around this snag?
thanks for any advice |
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Rather_Dashing
Joined: 07 Sep 2004
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I am in the exact same situation. The thread in which the discussion took place was deleted because the suggestion of using an illegal diploma came up.
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| but i have been told (not by the embassy)that if i go to korea and then get apply for the visa there it may be possible. |
I would like to know who told you this. I'm certainly entertaining this possibility. I'd like to know for sure that I can do this, since you don't want to spend $1000 on a ticket to Korea only to be denied an e2  |
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babtangee
Joined: 18 Dec 2004
Location: OMG! Charlie has me surrounded!
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| Posted: Mon Feb 07, 2005 12:44 pm Post subject: |
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I too am in the same situation - in Australia; not supposed to get my certificate until March. I really need to be in Korea now, as I plan to do an honours year in 2006 and thus have to be contract-free by March next year.
However, I certainly will not go to Korea without my degree where I may find myself having to teach illegally in order to get by. If the one that told you you may be able to get a visa without the degree if you are in Korea was a recruiter, I would seriously doubt it.
Rather than fight Korean law, I am not going to take no for an answer from my uni. My uni said it was possible that I could get my certificate early, but that I would have to have 'very specific documentation'. Then they got all mysterious about what that documentation would be. In other words, they don't want to have to print out a certificate early, so they are just trying to stall me. So I got an official letter from the Korean Embassy, a contract (to which I added my name, contract start/finish dates and the schools exact Korean address - and fixed up to look more professional - haha) and I took it down to my uni. I told them that I have to have my cert. to get this position I have been offered (which the K Embassy letter confirms), and if I can't have it asap the uni will have cost me a job!
They said they would present my case before a board. I don't know what this means, but I have been emailing them nearly everyday since (nearly two weeks ago now), and they have been ignoring my emails. So I rang yesterday and demanded an appointment to see someone. I am not taking no for an answer.
If you are taking this approach, I imagine a letter from an employer/recruiter stating that you will have a job once you have your certificate might help. Also, if you can, get in touch with some lecturers or your student union, try and get some help on your side - this will be my next step if talking to admin. doesn't help.
I would NOT recommend going to Korea without a certificate. You are not going to get a legit job or an E2 visa this way. |
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peppermint
Joined: 13 May 2003
Location: traversing the minefields of caddishness.
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| Posted: Mon Feb 07, 2005 3:35 pm Post subject: |
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| Good advice. In the past, a letter from the uni might be sufficient if you were lucky but in the current climate of mistrust towards ESL instructors, a note from God might not help. |
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J.B. Clamence
Joined: 15 Jan 2003
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| Posted: Mon Feb 07, 2005 6:53 pm Post subject: Re: e2 visa woes from canada.. help!! |
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| trout wrote: |
| i have been told (not by the embassy)that if i go to korea and then get apply for the visa there it may be possible. |
I'm interested to know where you heard this, because to me this doesn't seem logical at all. Whether you try to get the visa from overseas or while in Korea, the same process will happen: Your employer will send your documents to the immigration office and request a visa for you on your behalf. Your employer will then receive a Certificate of Visa Issuance, which you would then have to present to an overseas consulate or embassy to be issued the actual visa. Given this, it does not matter at all where you are (Korea or Canada) while this process takes place, so I can't see why anything would be different in the requirements if you were here. |
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Rather_Dashing
Joined: 07 Sep 2004
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| Posted: Mon Feb 07, 2005 8:24 pm Post subject: |
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| All right, I got some signed forms from my university saying I got my degree! Will it be enough? Time will tell, I'm going to the Korean Consulate tomorrow or Wednesday. |
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Manner of Speaking
Joined: 09 Jan 2003
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| Posted: Mon Feb 07, 2005 9:16 pm Post subject: |
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| Rather_Dashing wrote: |
| All right, I got some signed forms from my university saying I got my degree! Will it be enough? Time will tell, I'm going to the Korean Consulate tomorrow or Wednesday. |
I tried the same thing when I graduated from university. Finished my last course but didn't get awarded the diploma until 4 months later. Got a letter from the university stating I would be awarded the degree. No such luck from the Korean consulate.
Good luck, but I think it's unlikely to happen. Sorry. I honestly know how you feel. |
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Rather_Dashing
Joined: 07 Sep 2004
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| Posted: Mon Feb 07, 2005 10:18 pm Post subject: |
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| Manner of Speaking wrote: |
| Rather_Dashing wrote: |
| All right, I got some signed forms from my university saying I got my degree! Will it be enough? Time will tell, I'm going to the Korean Consulate tomorrow or Wednesday. |
I tried the same thing when I graduated from university. Finished my last course but didn't get awarded the diploma until 4 months later. Got a letter from the university stating I would be awarded the degree. No such luck from the Korean consulate.
Good luck, but I think it's unlikely to happen. Sorry. I honestly know how you feel. |
I'll try to have them call immigration and ask if it's okay, rather than ask their permission to certify me for an E2. The buck doesn't stop at the consulate.
I will fight this tooth and nail! I shall never surrender!  |
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Sage Monkey
Joined: 01 Nov 2004
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Rather_Dashing
Joined: 07 Sep 2004
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Thanks Sage Moneky! I'll do it tomorrow and let everyone know what happens.
Btw, your avatar scares me  |
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Pulgasori
Joined: 14 Sep 2004
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I too am in a similar situation (or rather I will be in a few months.)
I end classes in April, but won't receive the certificate until my commencement ceremony in mid June. In my situation, however, I can afford to be patient. I'm planning to start my MBA program in sept 06....so as long as I can find a job and start working in Korea before...say....August, I should be in the clear.
Which brings me to my question:
Is it common to apply for jobs, or work with recruiters during the time that I'll be waiting for my certificate? If all goes according to plan I'd like to be off for Korea within a week or two of my graduation ceremony. Am I likely to be able to find a position, and have the bulk of the legwork/paperwork done before I actually receive the certifcate? |
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J.B. Clamence
Joined: 15 Jan 2003
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| Posted: Tue Feb 08, 2005 6:43 pm Post subject: |
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| Am I likely to be able to find a position, and have the bulk of the legwork/paperwork done before I actually receive the certifcate? |
If it turns out that you absolutely need your diploma for immigration, then it may take a little bit longer than that. A lot of jobs expect you to send them a copy of your diploma with your application, but you might be able to get around that by promising you'll have it when it's time to apply for the visa, or you might have to wait to get the diploma before you can apply to certain schools, as there is a lot of mistrust at the moment. Your diploma, or a notarized copy, will have to be sent to your future school, who will then give it to immigration and wait to get a visa issuance conformation certificate. This itself takes at least a week. Then when they get the paper from immigration, they have to mail it to you, and then you go to the embassy to get your visa. And then you can come to Korea. As you can see, even if you won't need your diploma until it's time to apply for the visa, that process alone will take a few weeks after you've been offered a job before you can come to Korea. |
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Manner of Speaking
Joined: 09 Jan 2003
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If you have the letter from your university registrar, treat it just as you would a copy of an original degree and send it to the Korean embassy nearest you (Vancouver or Toronto for Canada), to get notarised. I went through this process exactly when I came here my first year and my letter was never disputed in authenticity since a branch of the Korean government had put a stamp on it to prove it was real.
To find out the process for getting your letter notarised, visit the website for the Korean embassy in Canada. They should have addresses, prices, and timelines there to help you out. Good luck!  |
Wow interesting. I wish I had known that before I first got here.  |
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Sage Monkey
Joined: 01 Nov 2004
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Rather_Dashing
Joined: 07 Sep 2004
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The Korean consulate refused to put their stamp on it. They told me that they can only stamp notarized copies of my original university diploma, and that the letters from the office of the registrar stating that I have my diploma are not acceptable.
I'm going to apply for jobs anyway and send that letter in lieu of a diploma to immigration. Let's see if that works.
If anyone here gets different results from different embassies/consulates in Canada, let me know. |
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