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SpecialK
Joined: 25 Nov 2004
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 Posted: Fri Feb 04, 2005 5:37 am Post subject: Lactose Intolerant |
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| Has anyone found lactose intolerant in Korea at all? My mother is coming for awhile and she is lactose intolerant. Just curious if they have it here. |
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JacktheCat
Joined: 08 May 2004
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| Posted: Fri Feb 04, 2005 5:42 am Post subject: |
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All Asians are lactose intolerant to a certain degree. Chinese the most, Koreans the least; due to genetics. We westerns sweat more, but we can better handle dairy products.
That said, dairy products here in Korea are low in lactose. And there is plenty of soy based stuff around. It's a good place to be lactose intolerant. |
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tzechuk
Joined: 20 Dec 2004
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| Posted: Sat Feb 05, 2005 12:23 am Post subject: |
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| JacktheCat wrote: |
All Asians are lactose intolerant to a certain degree. Chinese the most, Koreans the least; due to genetics. We westerns sweat more, but we can better handle dairy products.
That said, dairy products here in Korea are low in lactose. And there is plenty of soy based stuff around. It's a good place to be lactose intolerant. |
Are you serious about the Chinese being lactose intolerant?! I am Chinese and I am always drinking milk, eating cheese and whatnots.. my husband is Korean and he also drinks a lot of milk and eats a lot of dairy food... |
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ajuma
Joined: 18 Feb 2003
Location: Anywere but Seoul!!
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| Posted: Sat Feb 05, 2005 6:43 am Post subject: |
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tzechuk: Do either one of you have dark circles under your eyes, even though you get enough sleep? Cramping...um...etc! after consuming milk products? Skin rashes?
http://www.diagnose-me.com/cond/C344821.html
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| One of the most common nonallergenic food sensitivities is lactose intolerance. Except among those of Northern European descent, lactose intolerance is a condition suffered by almost 100% of the people in many areas of the world. In the United States, 95% of Orientals are lactose intolerant, 75% of blacks, 60% of native Americans, and from 2 to 24% of Caucasians, depending on the group studied |
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little mixed girl
Joined: 11 Jun 2003
Location: shin hyesung's bed~
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| Posted: Sat Feb 05, 2005 2:53 pm Post subject: |
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| tzechuk wrote: |
| JacktheCat wrote: |
All Asians are lactose intolerant to a certain degree. Chinese the most, Koreans the least; due to genetics. We westerns sweat more, but we can better handle dairy products.
That said, dairy products here in Korea are low in lactose. And there is plenty of soy based stuff around. It's a good place to be lactose intolerant. |
Are you serious about the Chinese being lactose intolerant?! I am Chinese and I am always drinking milk, eating cheese and whatnots.. my husband is Korean and he also drinks a lot of milk and eats a lot of dairy food... |
i think i heard something that since many ppl stop drinking milk after a certain age, that's when the disease (can i call it that?) develops.
some ppl continue to drink a lot of milk, eat a lot of dairy etc etc and are fine, and some ppl are just fine anyways.
i don't think u have anything to worry about... |
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mindmetoo
Joined: 02 Feb 2004
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| Posted: Sat Feb 05, 2005 5:03 pm Post subject: |
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| little mixed girl wrote: |
| tzechuk wrote: |
| JacktheCat wrote: |
All Asians are lactose intolerant to a certain degree. Chinese the most, Koreans the least; due to genetics. We westerns sweat more, but we can better handle dairy products.
That said, dairy products here in Korea are low in lactose. And there is plenty of soy based stuff around. It's a good place to be lactose intolerant. |
Are you serious about the Chinese being lactose intolerant?! I am Chinese and I am always drinking milk, eating cheese and whatnots.. my husband is Korean and he also drinks a lot of milk and eats a lot of dairy food... |
i think i heard something that since many ppl stop drinking milk after a certain age, that's when the disease (can i call it that?) develops.
some ppl continue to drink a lot of milk, eat a lot of dairy etc etc and are fine, and some ppl are just fine anyways.
i don't think u have anything to worry about... |
Humans, and only a percentage of humanity, are almost unique in we're one of the few mammals that still consume milk after a certain age. Lactose intolerance seems to be the default, intended to ween mammals off of their mother's milk and make them consume food.
Northern Europeans, with long cold winters, adapted because dairy was one of the few available food sources in winter. Many Asians and Africans, who come from places where food is in supply year round, found no survival benefit to lactose tolerance and that gene, while it exists in a percentage of all humans, never really became dominant. |
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JacktheCat
Joined: 08 May 2004
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| Posted: Sat Feb 05, 2005 5:21 pm Post subject: |
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| mindmetoo wrote: |
Humans, and only a percentage of humanity, are almost unique in we're one of the few mammals that still consume milk after a certain age. Lactose intolerance seems to be the default, intended to ween mammals off of their mother's milk and make them consume food.
Northern Europeans, with long cold winters, adapted because dairy was one of the few available food sources in winter. Many Asians and Africans, who come from places where food is in supply year round, found no survival benefit to lactose tolerance and that gene, while it exists in a percentage of all humans, never really became dominant. |
Well put mindmetoo. I couldn't have said it better.
Though, I've always wonder how Europeans stinky sweat evolved and what the evolutionary advantages of having bad BO are. And why only Europeans and Africans, not Asians. |
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paperbag princess
Joined: 07 Mar 2004
Location: veggie hell
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| Posted: Sat Feb 05, 2005 7:01 pm Post subject: |
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| i'd just like to point out that we're the only species of mammal who consumes milk after teething. |
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Kimchi Cha Cha
Joined: 15 May 2003
Location: was Suncheon, now Brisbane
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| Posted: Sat Feb 05, 2005 10:16 pm Post subject: |
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I'm lactose intolerant to a certain extent. I was extremely lactose intolerant as a baby (was even allergic to my mum!  ) though I've gradually been able to eat/drink diary products without hassles (I still stay clear of full cream back home). My first year here, I didn't touch the milk for fear that it might upset my stomach. But, since I've been back for 4 months, I have milk with cereal most morning and haven't had a problem yet. Depending on your mum's extent of lactose intolerance, I don't think it should be too much of a problem here. |
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tzechuk
Joined: 20 Dec 2004
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| Posted: Sun Feb 06, 2005 2:35 am Post subject: |
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tzechuk: Do either one of you have dark circles under your eyes, even though you get enough sleep? Cramping...um...etc! after consuming milk products? Skin rashes?
http://www.diagnose-me.com/cond/C344821.html
From the above link:
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| One of the most common nonallergenic food sensitivities is lactose intolerance. Except among those of Northern European descent, lactose intolerance is a condition suffered by almost 100% of the people in many areas of the world. In the United States, 95% of Orientals are lactose intolerant, 75% of blacks, 60% of native Americans, and from 2 to 24% of Caucasians, depending on the group studied |
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Nope. I have no dark circles. Never had, never will. I don't get a lot of sleep now and yet I never look tired. My husband has no dark circles either. We have no cramping, no rashes.. nothing. |
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tzechuk
Joined: 20 Dec 2004
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| Posted: Sun Feb 06, 2005 2:37 am Post subject: |
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| mindmetoo wrote: |
Humans, and only a percentage of humanity, are almost unique in we're one of the few mammals that still consume milk after a certain age. Lactose intolerance seems to be the default, intended to ween mammals off of their mother's milk and make them consume food.
Northern Europeans, with long cold winters, adapted because dairy was one of the few available food sources in winter. Many Asians and Africans, who come from places where food is in supply year round, found no survival benefit to lactose tolerance and that gene, while it exists in a percentage of all humans, never really became dominant. |
I guess may be it's because I have always had milk - nonstop - to make me lactose tolerant? |
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matthewwoodford
Joined: 01 Oct 2003
Location: Location, location, location.
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| Posted: Sun Feb 06, 2005 3:54 am Post subject: |
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The question I have is where were all the lactose intolerant people before the media alerted us to this problem? Is anyone here lactose intolerant? Do you remember suffering from lactose intolerance before you knew what it was?
Back in prehistory, when I was a kid, we were told milk was good for us. Of course we were also told how having too much leisure time would be a problem in the world of the future...
Anyway, it seems if you eat dairy products all your life you'll probably be fine with them. So why not just say your body will be fine with whatever foods you grew up with in most cases. |
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articulate_ink
Joined: 23 Mar 2004
Location: Left Korea in 2008. Hong Kong now.
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| Posted: Sun Feb 06, 2005 8:55 pm Post subject: |
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| matthewwoodford wrote: |
The question I have is where were all the lactose intolerant people before the media alerted us to this problem? Is anyone here lactose intolerant? Do you remember suffering from lactose intolerance before you knew what it was?
Back in prehistory, when I was a kid, we were told milk was good for us. Of course we were also told how having too much leisure time would be a problem in the world of the future...
Anyway, it seems if you eat dairy products all your life you'll probably be fine with them. So why not just say your body will be fine with whatever foods you grew up with in most cases. |
To answer your question, yes, I've been diagnosed with lactose intolerance. (Sometimes I wonder whether it's an allergy, though.) I'm a white American guy of Western European descent, with a little American Indian in the mix, if this matters. If a food product began its life in a bovine udder, I can't and won't consume it. I use soy- and rice-based substitutes: sliced faux cheese, for sandwiches; faux parmesan for Italian dishes; faux cream cheese for my morning bagel with lox; soy milk for baking; etc. Dunno how hard it will be to find this stuff in Korea but I'm not especially worried about it.
Yes, I suffered with it before I knew what it was, but it didn't take long to figure out what was causing problems. It's a very clear "if A then B" scenario: "If I eat cheese, then my ass will blow." Not something you can remain in denial about for long. Lactase supplements don't work for me, so I have to be very careful with what I eat and drink. |
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endofthewor1d
Joined: 01 Apr 2003
Location: the end of the wor1d.
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| Posted: Sun Feb 06, 2005 10:44 pm Post subject: |
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| Nope. I have no dark circles. Never had, never will. I don't get a lot of sleep now and yet I never look tired. My husband has no dark circles either. We have no cramping, no rashes.. nothing. |
never will?? i'd guess that more dark circles are the result of being punched in the face than of drinking milk. the former isn't something that's usually planned for.
i hope that didn't come off as threatening. it wasn't meant to. it just struck me as odd that someone with eyes could be so certain that they will never, at any point in the future, have dark circles under them.
that said, if this comes off as being nitpicky and stupid, you can just chalk that up to me spending most of this week in an internet cafe. |
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Harin
Joined: 03 May 2004
Location: Garden of Eden
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| Posted: Mon Feb 07, 2005 1:23 pm Post subject: |
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i am lactose intolerant.
i can handle cheese and whip cream in coffee, but nothing else. i used to imbibe a bottle of chocolate milk on weekends, but not anymore......i learned my lesson the hard way.  |
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