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cjonlee
Joined: 30 Sep 2003
Location: Seoul
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 Posted: Sat Feb 12, 2005 2:07 am Post subject: 2.0 and you want me to create what??? |
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Just perusing the jobs and noticed a lot were asking for gyopo's for around 2.5 but then one popped out that said 2.0 AND they want you to "perfectly" create the curriculum!?!
2.0 is what you pay a white monkey to come in and babysit the kids. |
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VanIslander
Joined: 18 Aug 2003
Location: Geoje, Hadong, Tongyeong,... now in a small coastal island town outside Gyeongsangnamdo!
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| Posted: Sat Feb 12, 2005 2:19 am Post subject: Re: 2.0 and you want me to create what??? |
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| cjonlee wrote: |
Just perusing the jobs and noticed a lot were asking for gyopo's for around 2.5 but then one popped out that said 2.0 AND they want you to "perfectly" create the curriculum!?!
2.0 is what you pay a white monkey to come in and babysit the kids. |
Your racist language aside,
Some people would jump at the chance to develop a curriculum. In most countries, ESL teachers get paid less than the $ 1,900 U.S./mo. for that position.
Or you could hold out for your local market value. |
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Grotto
Joined: 21 Mar 2004
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| Posted: Sat Feb 12, 2005 2:33 am Post subject: |
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| Some people would jump at the chance to develop a curriculum |
You are right. Some people would jump at the chance, they would also like to be compensated fairly for creating a 'perfect' curriculum.
Korea is not most countries, you should understand that better than most.
Korea can be a difficult place to live and the Korean psyche can often be quite frustrating to deal with. |
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Pyongshin Sangja
Joined: 20 Apr 2003
Location: I love baby!
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| Posted: Sat Feb 12, 2005 2:49 am Post subject: |
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| Hey, kyopo monkey . I'll pay you ten cents a day to build a railroad. |
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VanIslander
Joined: 18 Aug 2003
Location: Geoje, Hadong, Tongyeong,... now in a small coastal island town outside Gyeongsangnamdo!
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| Posted: Sat Feb 12, 2005 2:54 am Post subject: |
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| Grotto wrote: |
| Korea can be a difficult place to live... |
I actually find that hard to believe. But some people say they do, so I'm inclined to accept what they say. I admit my situation may be unusual, having a good hagwon and all, living in a nice place, meeting nice people, being treated exceptionally well. But I live a whole heck of a way away from Seoul, in a rural area with its own distinct Korean accent (or so I've been told).
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| ... and the Korean psyche can often be quite frustrating to deal with... |
Yes, it can, though the attitude one takes to deal with it makes a difference as to how magnified one's frustrations become.
Moral indignation, ridicule and demands for social change needn't be on one's agenda. |
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marlow
Joined: 06 Feb 2005
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| Posted: Sat Feb 12, 2005 2:57 am Post subject: |
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| I think 2.0M is a fair monthly payment for creating a "perfect" curriculum. I wonder what they pay for the teaching, though. Creating a curriculum is a lot of work. |
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fidel
Joined: 07 Feb 2003
Location: North Shore NZ
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| Posted: Sat Feb 12, 2005 3:14 am Post subject: |
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| Slightly perturbed by your choice of words but a quick peruse of your posts indicate you are probably an adoptee who feels hard done by the 'whites' in your adopted land. Maybe you got razzed at school or rednecks verbally abused you at the mall. I don't know nor care. However as a presumably educated adult I think it's about time you got over it don't you? |
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Grotto
Joined: 21 Mar 2004
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| Posted: Sat Feb 12, 2005 4:29 am Post subject: |
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By difficult I mean:
Not being fluent in the language.
Not being fluent in the alphabet
Being a minority and treated like one
Not being listened to
My biggest complaints about Korea and Koreans come from our lack (mine and theirs) to be able to communicate clearly and the way they deal with problems. |
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Blind Willie
Joined: 05 May 2004
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| Posted: Sat Feb 12, 2005 4:33 am Post subject: Re: 2.0 and you want me to create what??? |
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| cjonlee wrote: |
| 2.0 is what you pay a white monkey to come in and babysit the kids. |
Hell yeah!
Gimmie a banana! |
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diablo3
Joined: 11 Sep 2004
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| Posted: Sat Feb 12, 2005 5:47 am Post subject: |
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| Sometimes a perfectly created curriculum is given to the hagwon and they will just use that free work themselves, sometimes at the expense of the prospective applicant. This can mean that the hagwon has no idea or is just lazy, or really is honest and wants to see the methodology of the teacher. |
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Ya-ta Boy
Joined: 16 Jan 2003
Location: Established in 1994
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| Posted: Sat Feb 12, 2005 8:53 am Post subject: |
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I laughed when the OP referred to 'white monkeys'. I think it came from people here who have referred to themselves as monkeys hired to entertain the kids.
I doubt the poster meant it to be offensive.
Lighten up.
As to the topic: 2 mil is OK for a teacher in a well established program, but I think it is low if the teacher is expected to create the entire cirriculum. It's fair to expect teachers to make lesson plans that supplement a program. I think you should ask for at least 2.5 mil for the extra work. |
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The Man known as The Man
Joined: 29 Mar 2003
Location: 3 cheers for Ted Haggard oh yeah!
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| Posted: Sat Feb 12, 2005 10:33 am Post subject: |
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| Pyongshin Sangja wrote: |
| Hey, kyopo monkey . I'll pay you ten cents a day to build a railroad. |
princess, this cracked me up real good. |
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ohfamous
Joined: 10 Jul 2004
Location: Off the beaten path
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| Posted: Sat Feb 12, 2005 12:27 pm Post subject: |
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| Hey, kyopo monkey . I'll pay you ten cents a day to build a railroad. |
actually, it was mostly chinese who built the railroads (in which i assume you meant the US). good attempt at a witty retort, but too bad it was inaccurate as well as childish. there's really no need to respond to racist posts in kind, since you only end up offending more people.
that aside, i also agree with fidel. cjonlee, perhaps you meant to use the term "white monkeys" in jest, but it's kind of like a white guy trying to talk like a black guy using words like nig***. though black people say it all the time, if a white guy says it, it becomes offensive. something to consider.
in contrast, blind willie's post was hilarious to me because he took the potentially racist comment in stride. |
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Pyongshin Sangja
Joined: 20 Apr 2003
Location: I love baby!
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| Posted: Sat Feb 12, 2005 12:42 pm Post subject: |
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| I got childish right here in my pants for you, too. |
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Blind Willie
Joined: 05 May 2004
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| Posted: Sat Feb 12, 2005 1:11 pm Post subject: |
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Really now, the proper term for someone who comes in and babysits the kids is "Hagwon Monkey". Being a hagwon monkey is typically a dead easy job that has allowed me to save far more money than I could have hoped for back home.
So like I said, gimmie a banana. I'm ready to sit on some babies.
Ook ook. |
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