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crappy low-paid jobs through recruiters

 
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plato's republic



Joined: 07 Dec 2004
Location: Ancient Greece

PostPosted: Wed Feb 16, 2005 11:10 am    Post subject: crappy low-paid jobs through recruiters Reply with quote

my search for a teaching job in korea isn't going too well at the moment. i sent off my resume and photo to four recruiting agencies based in Seoul and Busan, but the very few offers i've received so far pay no more than 1.8/1.9million Won per month. now this would seem like a good offer if i were a recent university graduate with no experience, but i have four years of teaching experience (not in korea) and a bachelors degree. i would therefore be hoping to land a job that pays between 2.0-2.3million Won per month.
is this the best offer i can expect to get? can anyone enlighten me as to why i haven't been offered anything better? i thought that my teaching experience would count for something, but so far it hasn't.
maybe i should avoid recruiters that only have low-paid jobs, but most of them seem to have them, so that's not so easy, or maybe it's because the teaching market in korea is going through a difficult phase.
if anyone can give me some tips or advice or perhaps recommend a good recruiter that would be cool. feel free to PM me if you'd rather not discuss this in public.
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margaret



Joined: 14 Oct 2003

PostPosted: Wed Feb 16, 2005 12:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I signed a contract with a school through Koreana Teacher's Club. So far so good. They found me the job right away, it was the job I wanted, pays 2 million/month, and they get back with me right away with questions. I haven't started to work yet. You might give them a try.
The only things I can think of that might be going against you are: if you are not white, have a photo they think is ugly, come from a country they don't find desirable, are looking for a job only in Seoul, or are too old for them. These are the things other people have mentioned as preventing them from getting jobs.
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Grotto



Joined: 21 Mar 2004

PostPosted: Wed Feb 16, 2005 1:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

be patient and be firm
I have heard that recruiters get bigger signing bonuses for placing people in lower paying jobs so those are the ones they throw at you first.
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FUBAR



Joined: 21 Oct 2003
Location: The Y.C.

PostPosted: Wed Feb 16, 2005 2:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Usually helps to know the recruiter as well.
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Derrek



Joined: 15 Jan 2003

PostPosted: Wed Feb 16, 2005 3:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

You've probably heard that it helps a lot if you are here to search for jobs.

Have you tried the public/private school jobs? I saw one on www.worknplay.co.kr that offered 2 months of vacation plus holidays, etc., for at least 2.0, if memory serves.

The schools are having to give a little more now, because they're ultra-desperate. You're probably being ruled-out because your not here to interview.

Have you tried making a video tape of yourself and putting it online? If you have a video camera and a way to edit it, I can help you out and possibly host a small intro one for you. Then you can just give 'em the link and go from there.
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just because



Joined: 01 Aug 2003
Location: Changwon - 4964

PostPosted: Wed Feb 16, 2005 6:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don't mean to make a general sweep of all jobs here in Korea but in most cases.............

The amount of experience you have means jack.

You could have 0 years or 20 years and they will still offer you the same amount of money(and some even prefer people with no experience so they can be more easily bossed around).

It is more about connections in Korea than how much experience you have.
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Daechidong Waygookin



Joined: 22 Nov 2004
Location: No Longer on Dave's. Ive quit.

PostPosted: Wed Feb 16, 2005 6:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

just because wrote:
I don't mean to make a general sweep of all jobs here in Korea but in most cases.............

The amount of experience you have means jack.

You could have 0 years or 20 years and they will still offer you the same amount of money(and some even prefer people with no experience so they can be more easily bossed around).

It is more about connections in Korea than how much experience you have.


True to an extent. The more experience you have the less offers you get. But who cares? Those are just crap schools with bosses who want to cheat you. They will take a newbie over someone with a support network and smarts any time of the day. But having experience is a great bonus because it will open doors for you at much much better schools. I had 3 serious offers. One from a hagwon that I was thinking about because it was in the town where I wanted to stay. Another one at an international school that wanted me to teach math and science NOT English (awesome opportunity to broaden my horizons). And lastly, the job I took in Seoul that was the best of them all. 3 quality offers vs 30 crap offers. Ill take the quality.

Connections never hurt either.
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ajstew



Joined: 04 Feb 2004
Location: Korea

PostPosted: Wed Feb 16, 2005 7:48 pm    Post subject: advice Reply with quote

My advice for you is to start applying to the schools directly. Stop waiting for the recruiters to hand you a great one, because they're probably just sending out the same list to you, that they send to everyone else. That's because your teaching experience... unless it's in a real school in North America and you have a B.Ed, it means very little. I think institutes will appreciate it, if you take the time to send your stuff to them directly... it shows you put a little effort into it.
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Unreal



Joined: 01 Jul 2004
Location: Jeollabuk-do

PostPosted: Wed Feb 16, 2005 7:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

In my experience they always offer you the crap jobs first. Turn down a few and be patient. You will eventually get a better offer.
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Holyjoe



Joined: 03 Mar 2003
Location: Away for a cuppa

PostPosted: Wed Feb 16, 2005 8:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

just because wrote:
You could have 0 years or 20 years and they will still offer you the same amount of money(and some even prefer people with no experience so they can be more easily bossed around).


I went with a recruiter to visit one school, and my first impressions of the place weren't particularly good to start with, but the killer was yet to come... the director looked at my CV and then talked to the recruiter. The recruiter said to me "the director wants to know how much Korean you can speak. He knows that some foreigners can speak Korean but he doesn't want that because if you speak Korean then you can sometimes argue with him" (!)
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plato's republic



Joined: 07 Dec 2004
Location: Ancient Greece

PostPosted: Thu Feb 17, 2005 1:57 am    Post subject: which websites? Reply with quote

thanks for the info,
apart from dave's and worknplay, where else can i find jobs on the internet that aren't through recruiters?
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teachingld2004



Joined: 29 Mar 2004

PostPosted: Thu Feb 17, 2005 4:30 pm    Post subject: jobs Reply with quote

Just Because is right. You can have experience at home teaching, or be a frest univ. graduate, you are usually treated the same. Some times you are treated better if you NEVER taught because then you can be a good puppet.

A good way to get more money is to get a job where you are needed NOW. (or yesterday).. Then you might get more cause you are needed urgently, and lots of schools will take anyone almost at that point.

Just make sure your passport is current and you can come immediately if something is offered.

Also, do not take a verbal offer, you need a contract. but then again, at times you can't believe a contract anyway.

Good luck.
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