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waggo



Joined: 18 May 2003
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 17, 2005 4:02 am    Post subject: ..����... Reply with quote

Im studying this structure in Korean at the moment.I would be grateful if any of you boffins could give me your interpretations of it's uses.

A few gentle examples would be nice to.
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Son Deureo!



Joined: 30 Apr 2003

PostPosted: Thu Feb 17, 2005 5:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've never heard of it. Are you sure you don't mean ~����?

If so, it basically has two meanings. The first essentially translates as "until ~ happens".

For example:

�ʵ��� �� ����ϴ�. - I slept until (it was) late.
�ذ� �ߵ��� �� �԰� �̾߱� �߽��ϴ�. - We drank and talked until the sun came up.

The other, probably more useful, meaning is "so that ~ happens" or "hoping that ~ .

For example:

�����ϵ��� DVD�濡 �ʴ��ߴ�. - I invited (her) to the DVD room so that I could have sex with her.

This type of construction is also frequently used in the negative, when talking about things you're trying to prevent, as in:

������ �ɸ��� �ʵ��� �ܵ� ����ϴ�. - I wore a condom so that I wouldn't get a social disease.

I hope that this answers your questions.
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Ilsanman



Joined: 15 Aug 2003
Location: Bucheon, Korea

PostPosted: Thu Feb 17, 2005 5:26 am    Post subject: yes Reply with quote

It means 'striving towards a goal' as far as I know.

I can't say if those examples were good, but here is another one.

�츮 �������� ����
Let's try to meet.
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mithridates



Joined: 03 Mar 2003
Location: President's office, Korean Space Agency

PostPosted: Thu Feb 17, 2005 5:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

���� �ʵ��� �����ּ���...beg so that you don't die.

���� �ʴ� means not die, and then put on the ~���� and then the verb after you're going to use as your means for not dying.
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waggo



Joined: 18 May 2003
Location: pusan baby!

PostPosted: Thu Feb 17, 2005 4:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks everyone that was helpful....next time i will post on Mith's board.
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Joo Rip Gwa Rhhee



Joined: 25 May 2003

PostPosted: Sat Feb 19, 2005 4:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

So that

Until

Let
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Daami



Joined: 27 May 2003

PostPosted: Sun Feb 20, 2005 5:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

...in order to...
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tomato



Joined: 31 Jan 2003
Location: I get so little foreign language experience, I must be in Koreatown, Los Angeles.

PostPosted: Mon Feb 21, 2005 12:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Waggo, did you know that it is possible for the OP to change the title of a thread?
I fubarred on a thread title one time, and it worked.
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waggo



Joined: 18 May 2003
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 21, 2005 1:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Cant be bothered! Wink
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